Reloading with Glock question - Page 2

ziggy222 · December 27, 2006, 07:16 PM

xdguy,good choice in buying a fine example of a auto.the xd is on almost all the covers on the gun magazines and will be for many yrs to come.time will tell if it passes up the 1911 in popularity.i would not hesitate to load up a full power round in either gun and blast away to my hearts content.i stand buy my 3 or 4 loadings comment for the glock though.personally i just shoot factory in my friends glock and sell the brass.if i was a cop and had to use a glock,i would be fine with that,but i'd want compensated for the practice ammo.

XD-Guy · December 27, 2006, 07:29 PM

Ziggy I don't think thats going to happen people buy a 1911 cause they want one I don't believe people go shopping and end up with a 1911. I have quite a few handguns and if I could only have 1 it would be a 1911

ryucasta · December 27, 2006, 08:13 PM

More on the XD

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Springfield_Armory_XD

Pros

The XD can be field stripped easily and quickly with no tools.

Springfield Armory promises a lifetime guarantee with every XD pistol.

The XD series has only been on the market for a few years, so shooters are unable to judge its long-term track record, but the line has already established a reputation for bombproof reliability. One so-called 'Torture Test' was conducted (see external link below) in which an XD-9 was run over with a truck, frozen in a block of ice, caked with sand, and even stripped and degreased, firing nearly 20,000 rounds without a single malfunction in the process.

The primary aspect that many first-time XD shooters comment on is the gun's ergonomics. It is considered to have a very solid, stable feel, with a grip that feels extremely comfortable in the hands of even smaller shooters. These types of comments are especially impressive when applied to the XD-45, since grip size has been a major problem for other high-capacity .45ACP pistols.

The XD's grip angle is the same as that of a 1911, which tends to make the gun more naturally pointable in the view of most American shooters. Many polymer-framed pistols such as Glocks tend to have a more severe grip angle (wrist is held such that a 1911 syle pistol would be pointed more towards the ground), which has been regarded to be more of an acquired taste.

The sight mounts on XD pistols are essentially the same as sight mounts on the popular line of pistols made by SIG, meaning that there is a large variety of aftermarket sights that can be installed on an XD without modification.

The XD uses a fully supported chamber design which reinforces the rear of the ammunition case. A fully supported chamber reduces the possibility of an ammunition case rupture that could cause injury to the shooter and severely damage the gun. This is an especially important feature for owners who intend to use +P and/or reloaded ammunition.

The sights and trigger of the XD are made of metal instead of plastic

Cons

Though some parts can be purchased through aftermarket suppliers, Springfield Armory refuses to sell some individual XD parts. Springfield Armory's position seems to be that with a lifetime warranty that includes repair work, parts sales are not necessary. This is a major stumbling block for shooters who are involved in competitive pistol activities, because they are unable to keep a small stock of parts on hand for emergencies. People who carry their pistol every day (and thus are unable to ship their gun off for a week while it's being repaired) have also complained about the policy.

As of 2006, there are no aftermarket trigger springs. This means that shooters cannot adjust the trigger pull weight of their XD pistols for competition or personal preference.

Those who have tried installing aftermarket or custom sights on XD's have reported that removing the existing sights can be an extremely difficult process, often requiring the services of a gunsmith.

Pre-2006 versions of the XD were protected with a metal treatment called Burinal™. Some who own pistols with the Burinal™ treatment have reported significant rust problems - especially those who carry the XD against their skin. Fortunately, current versions of the XD are being manufactured with a treatment called Melonite™, which is the same process as the near-legendary Tenifer™ coating used on Glocks.

Abstract · December 29, 2006, 10:41 AM

One might be a tad concerned about the quality of a source that refers to either Melonite or Tenifer as a "coating."

MADISON · December 31, 2006, 09:59 AM

Reloads will void any warranty!
In the last 36+ years I may have bought a dozen boxes of FACTORY handgun ammo. Yes, it is true that reloads void all handgun manufacturer's warrenty. They do not want to fix a gun, under warranty, that you have "abused" with reloads.
I Reload for my 16+ year old Glock 21.
The only factory loads I have are for CCW.
Do not load LEAD bullets. Load PLATED BULLETS. They coost a little more but, do not lead the barrel.

December 27, 2006, 08:13 PM	#28
ryucasta Senior Member Join Date: February 4, 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 431	More on the XD http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Springfield_Armory_XD Pros The XD can be field stripped easily and quickly with no tools. Springfield Armory promises a lifetime guarantee with every XD pistol. The XD series has only been on the market for a few years, so shooters are unable to judge its long-term track record, but the line has already established a reputation for bombproof reliability. One so-called 'Torture Test' was conducted (see external link below) in which an XD-9 was run over with a truck, frozen in a block of ice, caked with sand, and even stripped and degreased, firing nearly 20,000 rounds without a single malfunction in the process. The primary aspect that many first-time XD shooters comment on is the gun's ergonomics. It is considered to have a very solid, stable feel, with a grip that feels extremely comfortable in the hands of even smaller shooters. These types of comments are especially impressive when applied to the XD-45, since grip size has been a major problem for other high-capacity .45ACP pistols. The XD's grip angle is the same as that of a 1911, which tends to make the gun more naturally pointable in the view of most American shooters. Many polymer-framed pistols such as Glocks tend to have a more severe grip angle (wrist is held such that a 1911 syle pistol would be pointed more towards the ground), which has been regarded to be more of an acquired taste. The sight mounts on XD pistols are essentially the same as sight mounts on the popular line of pistols made by SIG, meaning that there is a large variety of aftermarket sights that can be installed on an XD without modification. The XD uses a fully supported chamber design which reinforces the rear of the ammunition case. A fully supported chamber reduces the possibility of an ammunition case rupture that could cause injury to the shooter and severely damage the gun. This is an especially important feature for owners who intend to use +P and/or reloaded ammunition. The sights and trigger of the XD are made of metal instead of plastic Cons Though some parts can be purchased through aftermarket suppliers, Springfield Armory refuses to sell some individual XD parts. Springfield Armory's position seems to be that with a lifetime warranty that includes repair work, parts sales are not necessary. This is a major stumbling block for shooters who are involved in competitive pistol activities, because they are unable to keep a small stock of parts on hand for emergencies. People who carry their pistol every day (and thus are unable to ship their gun off for a week while it's being repaired) have also complained about the policy. As of 2006, there are no aftermarket trigger springs. This means that shooters cannot adjust the trigger pull weight of their XD pistols for competition or personal preference. Those who have tried installing aftermarket or custom sights on XD's have reported that removing the existing sights can be an extremely difficult process, often requiring the services of a gunsmith. Pre-2006 versions of the XD were protected with a metal treatment called Burinal™. Some who own pistols with the Burinal™ treatment have reported significant rust problems - especially those who carry the XD against their skin. Fortunately, current versions of the XD are being manufactured with a treatment called Melonite™, which is the same process as the near-legendary Tenifer™ coating used on Glocks. __________________ Cheers, Raul Scarface/Tony Montana Says: Send me here. Send me there. This. That. Nothing you can do to me Harry, Castro didn’t do --- nothing...

December 31, 2006, 09:59 AM	#30
MADISON Senior Member Join Date: January 1, 2000 Location: Roanoke, Virginia Posts: 2,678	Reloads will void any warranty Reloads will void any warranty! In the last 36+ years I may have bought a dozen boxes of FACTORY handgun ammo. Yes, it is true that reloads void all handgun manufacturer's warrenty. They do not want to fix a gun, under warranty, that you have "abused" with reloads. I Reload for my 16+ year old Glock 21. The only factory loads I have are for CCW. Do not load LEAD bullets. Load PLATED BULLETS. They coost a little more but, do not lead the barrel.

December 27, 2006, 07:16 PM	#26
ziggy222 Senior Member Join Date: October 5, 2006 Posts: 184	xdguy,good choice in buying a fine example of a auto.the xd is on almost all the covers on the gun magazines and will be for many yrs to come.time will tell if it passes up the 1911 in popularity.i would not hesitate to load up a full power round in either gun and blast away to my hearts content.i stand buy my 3 or 4 loadings comment for the glock though.personally i just shoot factory in my friends glock and sell the brass.if i was a cop and had to use a glock,i would be fine with that,but i'd want compensated for the practice ammo.

December 27, 2006, 07:29 PM	#27
XD-Guy Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2006 Posts: 102	Ziggy I don't think thats going to happen people buy a 1911 cause they want one I don't believe people go shopping and end up with a 1911. I have quite a few handguns and if I could only have 1 it would be a 1911

December 29, 2006, 10:41 AM	#29
Abstract Junior member Join Date: December 25, 2006 Posts: 443	One might be a tad concerned about the quality of a source that refers to either Melonite or Tenifer as a "coating."