Garand type safety on other rifles?

Prof Young · May 27, 2021, 11:55 AM

So I'm watching Arrow on netflix and the assassin Deadshot is shooting a rifle that has a "safety" which looks very much like the safety on my recently acquired CMP M1 Garand. Is this just Hollywood being bad at details or are there guns that have a similar safety?

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Jim Watson · May 27, 2021, 12:16 PM

Mini 14 is the most common.

FrankenMauser · May 27, 2021, 12:25 PM

Quite a few designs in the '50s and '60s - foreign and domestic - used a similar style safety.

It still shows up today.
Mini-14, Mini-30.
Probably some others that are not on my radar.
And, the BMS CAM is still available. A bolt action rifle with a 'Garand style' safety. The action is unnecessarily long as a byproduct, as noted by Bloke on the Range, just because the designer liked Garand controls.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZjUiKeXeOc

**44 AMP** · May 27, 2021, 08:49 PM

M1 Garand
M14
M1A
BM-59

Mini 14
Mini 30

all I can think of right now

Prof Young · May 27, 2021, 10:53 PM

Thanks. So much to learn, so much to learn.

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ballardw · May 28, 2021, 03:55 PM

And the Vektor CP1 pistol. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vektor_CP1 the orange piece at the front of the trigger guard.

Don Fischer · May 28, 2021, 05:17 PM

I've never seen a Garand and had to look up the safety. Similar to the safety on the old Rem mod 11 shotgun, early Browning auto 5. Little tab in front of the trigger. Flip it forward to take the safety off. Seemed like it worked alright to me! I didn't own it, belonged to a guy I knew years ago.

doofus47 · May 29, 2021, 02:59 PM

If memory serves, the CZ 52 (rifle of Planet of the Apes fame) has a Garand-style safety.

Sharkbite · May 29, 2021, 03:06 PM

The SKS has a in the trigger guard, pivoting type safety. Not exactly like a Garand, but close.

DPI7800 · May 30, 2021, 10:12 AM

Sako TRG’s do.

stuckinthe60s · May 30, 2021, 01:34 PM

I wonder how many know what the hole is for on the safety......

Sharkbite · May 30, 2021, 05:00 PM

Quote:

I wonder how many know what the hole is for on the safety...

Ohhh..... drop that knowledge bomb!!!!!!

Prof Young · May 31, 2021, 12:17 AM

I would assume that the hole is for a lock to go thru. Put the safety on, insert a lock and now the safety is locked in place.

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stuckinthe60s · May 31, 2021, 05:30 AM

when rifles were stored in the armory, they were put on a rack or on a wall 20 sometimes 50 wide. a rod was passed thru all the locked safeties and secured at one end. this way they couldn't be grabbed off the rack if broken in to.

**4V50 Gary** · May 31, 2021, 04:20 PM

I thought the original Planet of the Apes Ape Army gun was an encased M-1 Carbine. I don't recall the sequels though.

tangolima · May 31, 2021, 06:08 PM

The garand safety blocks either the hammer or sear. Not every look-alike safety does that. A lot of them just blocks the trigger.

-TL

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Polinese · June 1, 2021, 12:28 AM

He was using a M1A/M14 in that particular episode just as an FYI

JustJake · June 1, 2021, 08:22 AM

Quote:

when rifles were stored in the armory, they were put on a rack or on a wall 20 sometimes 50 wide. a rod was passed thru all the locked safeties and secured at one end. this way they couldn't be grabbed off the rack if broken in to.

Makes sense ... M1s were a hot item on the black market. Lots of thieves were known to hang out around military bases and armories back then. No doubt some were even Cold War spies. Less so once M16s became widely issued.

USCS · June 2, 2021, 10:02 AM

The Suomi and some BRP M76 subguns have the safety in the same location. Fun guns, heavy though.

KROIL · June 2, 2021, 03:13 PM

The Marlin camp 9 and 45 carbines also have the Garand style safety.

jmstr · July 5, 2021, 11:56 PM

Not a rifle, but the first design of the Browning Auto-5 shotgun had a safety inside the trigger guard, until around 1953-ish. I have one made in '47 with that safety.

However, I can't add to the rifle safety comments.

May 27, 2021, 11:55 AM	#1
Prof Young Senior Member Join Date: August 21, 2007 Location: Illinois - down state Posts: 2,403	Garand type safety on other rifles? So I'm watching Arrow on netflix and the assassin Deadshot is shooting a rifle that has a "safety" which looks very much like the safety on my recently acquired CMP M1 Garand. Is this just Hollywood being bad at details or are there guns that have a similar safety? Life is good Prof Young

May 27, 2021, 12:25 PM	#3
FrankenMauser Senior Member Join Date: August 25, 2008 Location: In the valley above the plain Posts: 13,424	Quite a few designs in the '50s and '60s - foreign and domestic - used a similar style safety. It still shows up today. Mini-14, Mini-30. Probably some others that are not on my radar. And, the BMS CAM is still available. A bolt action rifle with a 'Garand style' safety. The action is unnecessarily long as a byproduct, as noted by Bloke on the Range, just because the designer liked Garand controls. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZjUiKeXeOc __________________ Don't even try it. It's even worse than the internet would lead you to believe.

May 27, 2021, 08:49 PM	#4
44 AMP Staff Join Date: March 11, 2006 Location: Upper US Posts: 28,813	M1 Garand M14 M1A BM-59 Mini 14 Mini 30 all I can think of right now __________________ All else being equal (and it almost never is) bigger bullets tend to work better.

May 27, 2021, 10:53 PM	#5
Prof Young Senior Member Join Date: August 21, 2007 Location: Illinois - down state Posts: 2,403	Thanks. Thanks. So much to learn, so much to learn. Life is good Prof Young

May 28, 2021, 03:55 PM	#6
ballardw Senior Member Join Date: September 19, 2008 Posts: 1,411	And the Vektor CP1 pistol. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vektor_CP1 the orange piece at the front of the trigger guard. __________________ -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ All data is flawed, some just less so.

May 27, 2021, 12:16 PM	#2
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,535	Mini 14 is the most common.

May 28, 2021, 05:17 PM	#7
Don Fischer Senior Member Join Date: March 2, 2017 Posts: 1,868	I've never seen a Garand and had to look up the safety. Similar to the safety on the old Rem mod 11 shotgun, early Browning auto 5. Little tab in front of the trigger. Flip it forward to take the safety off. Seemed like it worked alright to me! I didn't own it, belonged to a guy I knew years ago.

May 29, 2021, 02:59 PM	#8
doofus47 Senior Member Join Date: June 9, 2010 Location: live in a in a house when i'm not in a tent Posts: 2,483	If memory serves, the CZ 52 (rifle of Planet of the Apes fame) has a Garand-style safety. __________________ I'm right about the metric system 3/4 of the time.

May 29, 2021, 03:06 PM	#9
Sharkbite Senior Member Join Date: November 4, 2013 Location: Western slope of Colorado Posts: 3,679	The SKS has a in the trigger guard, pivoting type safety. Not exactly like a Garand, but close.

May 30, 2021, 10:12 AM	#10
DPI7800 Senior Member Join Date: July 15, 2014 Posts: 208	Sako TRG’s do.

May 30, 2021, 01:34 PM	#11
stuckinthe60s Senior Member Join Date: January 31, 2017 Location: Va., Ct., Mo.. Posts: 877	I wonder how many know what the hole is for on the safety...... __________________ Retired Military Aviation Former Member Navy Shooting Team Distinguished Pistol Shot,NRA Shotgun/Pistol Instructor NSSA All American, Skeet/Trap Range Owner

May 31, 2021, 12:17 AM	#13
Prof Young Senior Member Join Date: August 21, 2007 Location: Illinois - down state Posts: 2,403	I would assume . . . . I would assume that the hole is for a lock to go thru. Put the safety on, insert a lock and now the safety is locked in place. Life is good Prof Young

May 31, 2021, 05:30 AM	#14
stuckinthe60s Senior Member Join Date: January 31, 2017 Location: Va., Ct., Mo.. Posts: 877	when rifles were stored in the armory, they were put on a rack or on a wall 20 sometimes 50 wide. a rod was passed thru all the locked safeties and secured at one end. this way they couldn't be grabbed off the rack if broken in to. __________________ Retired Military Aviation Former Member Navy Shooting Team Distinguished Pistol Shot,NRA Shotgun/Pistol Instructor NSSA All American, Skeet/Trap Range Owner

May 31, 2021, 04:20 PM	#15
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,831	I thought the original Planet of the Apes Ape Army gun was an encased M-1 Carbine. I don't recall the sequels though. __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

May 31, 2021, 06:08 PM	#16
tangolima Senior Member Join Date: September 28, 2013 Posts: 3,814	The garand safety blocks either the hammer or sear. Not every look-alike safety does that. A lot of them just blocks the trigger. -TL Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk

June 1, 2021, 12:28 AM	#17
Polinese Senior Member Join Date: September 27, 2010 Posts: 947	He was using a M1A/M14 in that particular episode just as an FYI

June 2, 2021, 10:02 AM	#19
USCS Senior Member Join Date: September 9, 2009 Location: South Carolina Posts: 114	The Suomi and some BRP M76 subguns have the safety in the same location. Fun guns, heavy though.

June 2, 2021, 03:13 PM	#20
KROIL Senior Member Join Date: August 25, 2006 Posts: 306	The Marlin camp 9 and 45 carbines also have the Garand style safety.

July 5, 2021, 11:56 PM	#21
jmstr Senior Member Join Date: February 24, 2001 Location: San Joaquin Valley, CA Posts: 1,281	Not a rifle, but the first design of the Browning Auto-5 shotgun had a safety inside the trigger guard, until around 1953-ish. I have one made in '47 with that safety. However, I can't add to the rifle safety comments.