what gun would you choose? - Page 2

idek · April 6, 2011, 08:42 PM

Yes, the "shell lifter." I had forgotten the name. And we agree it's not big deal, but since I learned with a mossberg first, the lifter on the Remington seems like a hindrance to me. I suppose the exact same thing could be true the other way around, and some people likely prefer the lifter to Mossberg's levers.

loose_holster_dan · April 6, 2011, 08:54 PM

remington 870 expess or mossberg 500. both insanely easy to customize. i went with the 870 express with the ATI mods. the top folding stock, heat shield, and ghost ring sights go nice together. see in the middle of the attach pic.

PITT5150 · April 7, 2011, 01:26 AM

I've owned both the 870 and 500. I prefer the 500 over the 870. I just liked the ergonomics like the safety and release lever.

pablowest · April 7, 2011, 06:15 AM

Hi loose_holster_dan, I think I will choose the middle one. It can surely protect you from harm.

stonewall50 · April 9, 2011, 09:59 PM

Oh and one more quick thing: don't get caught up in accessories. Making a gun look pretty before you learn to make it shoot pretty is a big mistake I have seen alot of people make. I actually use NO accessories on my 870 for home defense. I actually can duck hunt with the gun without the bead, so I know how the gun shoots on instinct. I am not using it as a precision weapon.

idek · April 10, 2011, 01:20 AM

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Oh and one more quick thing: don't get caught up in accessories. Making a gun look pretty before you learn to make it shoot pretty is a big mistake I have seen alot of people make. I actually use NO accessories on my 870 for home defense.

True, and I've seen posts from people who've bought fancy tactical stocks and found that the cheek piece/comb is too high to look down the barrel correctly, or they bought a pistol grip forend and the extra torque from using that kind of grip made the slide action not work as smooth.

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I actually can duck hunt with the gun without the bead, so I know how the gun shoots on instinct. I am not using it as a precision weapon.

Not to be critical of your wording Stonewall, but I'll point out that a shotgun doesn't have to be a precision weapon at 20-40 yards or so when shooting ducks, but in HD situations, shots are more likely to be taken around 4 yards. At that distance, a shotgun pattern is only a few inches wide, and some precision is, in fact, necessary. I don't doubt that you know this, but I thought I'd clarify in case any taught-by-movies people read this and think they can just shoot from the hip and never miss with a shotgun.

MagnumWill · April 13, 2011, 08:28 PM

Wow! This is the first time i've seen a thread like this so one-sided! It's always been like 50/50 with the Mossbergs and Remmys.

I've never owned an 870, but a friend of mine has one and I have no complaints with it, but...

Cut the crap and go with a 590A1

If it's good enough for combat engineers, it's good enough for a normal one.

Uncle Ben · April 14, 2011, 12:44 PM

I have a Mossberg 500, but if funds were not an issue I probably would have done with the Mossberg 930 for autoloading and for increased rounds capacity

new_scopeshooter · April 14, 2011, 01:09 PM

I haven't seen anyone say anything about the win 1300 12ga!
That's what I use with a mag ext and loaded with #4 buck shot
Wifes gun is a 870 youth with 18 1/2 smoth bore slug barrel!!

jmr40 · April 14, 2011, 06:02 PM

Cause the 1300 hasn't been made in years. Wasn't a bad gun though

Bucks Gun Shop · April 16, 2011, 10:16 PM

If I were going with a pump gun it would either be the 870 or the 590-1A... That said, for my next HD shotgun I am going with an Auto...

catnphx · April 17, 2011, 11:00 AM

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If I were going with a pump gun it would either be the 870 or the 590-1A

Those were my final two choices and I ended up going with the 590A1 ... it's a wonderful gun.

There are soo many options; it's very difficult. Once you figure which brand you are going to buy you then have to figure which model you're going to buy. Tough choices for sure.

Bubba in c.a. · April 19, 2011, 09:42 PM

have you priced a Saiga lately?

If i were in a buying mood I would go for a Moss 930. I currently have a moss 500 and a maverick and am happy with both, I just think semi auto is better in some circumstances, such as multiple targets,

Moss is mechanically superior to 870 because of the method of loading--it is much less likely to jam or bite fingers. Needless to say, there is a training go around on this and if somebody is used to the 870 and doesn`t have a problem with it, they should stick with what works for them.

Moss is also better for those who shoot left handed.

Rick Silver · April 20, 2011, 08:34 PM

I have had my 870 for twenty years; it is my most reliable gun! I cannot even think how many rounds I have put throw it. Love it.

Slugo · April 20, 2011, 08:46 PM

I wouldn't buy a Mossberg or a Saiga on a bet, especially a Saiga.:barf: Remington 870 Express all the way...

MagnumWill · April 20, 2011, 10:58 PM

Well, I'm a bettin' man- and a Mossberg, Remmy or Saiga beats a flashlight and a cell phone any day of the week

kozak6 · April 21, 2011, 07:12 PM

Ithaca 37.

Lightweight, easy loading, superior controls.

The SEALs liked them during Vietnam.

Glockfan35 · April 21, 2011, 09:17 PM

Shell lifter o_O? Try elevator, the actual manufacturer's term. My preference would be the Mossberg 500, with an ATI Adjustable stock, capacity's 5+1, with 5 additional shells in the shell holder. I just buy the cheapest 2 3/4" birdshot shells I can find, allowing me to practice more often, while allowing room for some pistol ammo, too!

krazykeny · April 23, 2011, 08:44 PM

Maverick Model 88 20 inch barrel - 7 round magazine

Price: $219.99 to $199.00

http://www.maverickarms.com

Pump-action. Dual extractors & twin-action slide bars for non-binding extraction.
Recoil pad. Barrel compatible with Mossberg 500 model barrels
within gauge & capacity.
Cross-bolt safety. Handles all factory 2-3/4" & 3" loads.
Capable of firing lead steel or non-toxic loads.
Includes Cablelock. One-year limited warranty.

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Hawg · April 23, 2011, 08:47 PM

Short barreled Winchester 97. No lights, no fancies. No racking the slide. Just click and boom.

barefoot · April 28, 2011, 01:37 PM

870 for me. It's pretty new and I haven't shot it much - and I'm going to have to find something to do with all that rail-estate. Actually, the rail over the receiver is raised just enough to make a nice sight tunnel underneath.

TheKlawMan · April 28, 2011, 01:51 PM

The Windhester 1300 Defender is indeed again in manufacture, or at least what is marketed as a 1300 Defender under the Winchester brand. Now it is manufactured in Turkey, imported by a company the name of which I couldn't make out on the barrrel, but it is also stamped as a Winchester.

April 6, 2011, 08:54 PM	#27
loose_holster_dan Senior Member Join Date: April 5, 2011 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 2,461	remington 870 expess or mossberg 500. both insanely easy to customize. i went with the 870 express with the ATI mods. the top folding stock, heat shield, and ghost ring sights go nice together. see in the middle of the attach pic. __________________ Favorite range gun for the money - CZ 75B or STI Spartan V 9mm Go-to carry setup - Walther PPS or PPQ in FIST kydex holster 1AK Favorite semi-auto design - HK P7 "A Sig is like a lightsaber - not as clumsy or random as a Glock."

April 9, 2011, 09:59 PM	#30
stonewall50 Senior Member Join Date: April 14, 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 668	Oh and one more quick thing: don't get caught up in accessories. Making a gun look pretty before you learn to make it shoot pretty is a big mistake I have seen alot of people make. I actually use NO accessories on my 870 for home defense. I actually can duck hunt with the gun without the bead, so I know how the gun shoots on instinct. I am not using it as a precision weapon. __________________ Faith Reason Fraternus

April 13, 2011, 08:28 PM	#32
MagnumWill Senior Member Join Date: March 18, 2009 Location: Central Colorado Posts: 1,001	Wow! This is the first time i've seen a thread like this so one-sided! It's always been like 50/50 with the Mossbergs and Remmys. I've never owned an 870, but a friend of mine has one and I have no complaints with it, but... Cut the crap and go with a 590A1 If it's good enough for combat engineers, it's good enough for a normal one. __________________ Those who hammer their swords into plow shares will plow for those who didn't...

April 14, 2011, 12:44 PM	#33
Uncle Ben Senior Member Join Date: January 31, 2008 Location: Southern California Posts: 400	I have a Mossberg 500, but if funds were not an issue I probably would have done with the Mossberg 930 for autoloading and for increased rounds capacity __________________ Lazy + Complacent = DISARMED *FIGHT to keep your guns & join the NRA. Contact your representatives about 2A issues at www.capwiz.com/nra/dbq/officials and to be kept up to date on the current issues visit www.nraila.org

April 16, 2011, 10:16 PM	#36
Bucks Gun Shop Member Join Date: April 11, 2011 Posts: 75	If I were going with a pump gun it would either be the 870 or the 590-1A... That said, for my next HD shotgun I am going with an Auto... __________________ "Like" us on Facebook at Buck's Gun Shop for regular specials and other savings. www.Bucks-Gun-Shop.com [email protected]

April 6, 2011, 08:42 PM	#26
idek Senior Member Join Date: August 20, 2009 Posts: 903	Yes, the "shell lifter." I had forgotten the name. And we agree it's not big deal, but since I learned with a mossberg first, the lifter on the Remington seems like a hindrance to me. I suppose the exact same thing could be true the other way around, and some people likely prefer the lifter to Mossberg's levers.

April 7, 2011, 01:26 AM	#28
PITT5150 Senior Member Join Date: November 26, 2010 Posts: 136	I've owned both the 870 and 500. I prefer the 500 over the 870. I just liked the ergonomics like the safety and release lever.

April 7, 2011, 06:15 AM	#29
pablowest Junior Member Join Date: April 6, 2011 Posts: 3	Hi loose_holster_dan, I think I will choose the middle one. It can surely protect you from harm.

April 14, 2011, 01:09 PM	#34
new_scopeshooter Senior Member Join Date: April 12, 2011 Location: central ohio Posts: 391	I haven't seen anyone say anything about the win 1300 12ga! That's what I use with a mag ext and loaded with #4 buck shot Wifes gun is a 870 youth with 18 1/2 smoth bore slug barrel!!

April 14, 2011, 06:02 PM	#35
jmr40 Senior Member Join Date: June 15, 2008 Location: Georgia Posts: 10,809	Cause the 1300 hasn't been made in years. Wasn't a bad gun though

April 19, 2011, 09:42 PM	#38
Bubba in c.a. Member Join Date: April 18, 2011 Posts: 49	have you priced a Saiga lately? If i were in a buying mood I would go for a Moss 930. I currently have a moss 500 and a maverick and am happy with both, I just think semi auto is better in some circumstances, such as multiple targets, Moss is mechanically superior to 870 because of the method of loading--it is much less likely to jam or bite fingers. Needless to say, there is a training go around on this and if somebody is used to the 870 and doesn`t have a problem with it, they should stick with what works for them. Moss is also better for those who shoot left handed.

April 20, 2011, 08:34 PM	#39
Rick Silver Junior Member Join Date: April 15, 2011 Posts: 7	I have had my 870 for twenty years; it is my most reliable gun! I cannot even think how many rounds I have put throw it. Love it.

April 20, 2011, 08:46 PM	#40
Slugo Junior member Join Date: September 15, 2001 Location: Central PA Posts: 1,007	I wouldn't buy a Mossberg or a Saiga on a bet, especially a Saiga.:barf: Remington 870 Express all the way...

April 20, 2011, 10:58 PM	#41
MagnumWill Senior Member Join Date: March 18, 2009 Location: Central Colorado Posts: 1,001	Well, I'm a bettin' man- and a Mossberg, Remmy or Saiga beats a flashlight and a cell phone any day of the week __________________ Those who hammer their swords into plow shares will plow for those who didn't...

April 21, 2011, 07:12 PM	#42
kozak6 Senior Member Join Date: June 16, 2005 Location: AZ Posts: 3,113	Ithaca 37. Lightweight, easy loading, superior controls. The SEALs liked them during Vietnam.

April 21, 2011, 09:17 PM	#43
Glockfan35 Senior Member Join Date: April 1, 2011 Location: Kentucky Posts: 113	Huh?!?!?! Shell lifter o_O? Try elevator, the actual manufacturer's term. My preference would be the Mossberg 500, with an ATI Adjustable stock, capacity's 5+1, with 5 additional shells in the shell holder. I just buy the cheapest 2 3/4" birdshot shells I can find, allowing me to practice more often, while allowing room for some pistol ammo, too! __________________ "The best revenge is not in violence, but simply living well".

April 23, 2011, 08:44 PM	#44
krazykeny Member Join Date: December 7, 2010 Posts: 17	Maverick Model 88 20 inch barrel Maverick Model 88 20 inch barrel - 7 round magazine Price: $219.99 to $199.00 http://www.maverickarms.com Pump-action. Dual extractors & twin-action slide bars for non-binding extraction. Recoil pad. Barrel compatible with Mossberg 500 model barrels within gauge & capacity. Cross-bolt safety. Handles all factory 2-3/4" & 3" loads. Capable of firing lead steel or non-toxic loads. Includes Cablelock. One-year limited warranty. -

April 23, 2011, 08:47 PM	#45
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,189	Short barreled Winchester 97. No lights, no fancies. No racking the slide. Just click and boom.

April 28, 2011, 01:37 PM	#46
barefoot Member Join Date: January 4, 2011 Posts: 63	870 for me. It's pretty new and I haven't shot it much - and I'm going to have to find something to do with all that rail-estate. Actually, the rail over the receiver is raised just enough to make a nice sight tunnel underneath.

April 28, 2011, 01:51 PM	#47
TheKlawMan Junior member Join Date: June 23, 2009 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 2,149	The Windhester 1300 Defender is indeed again in manufacture, or at least what is marketed as a 1300 Defender under the Winchester brand. Now it is manufactured in Turkey, imported by a company the name of which I couldn't make out on the barrrel, but it is also stamped as a Winchester.