Got denied on a PICS check today.

kilotanker22 · April 30, 2020, 11:35 PM

So I got denied on a background check today. First time ever. Even just renewed my LTC a month ago.

The only time I have ever even been arrested was when I was in the Army. I had a miscommunication with my First Sergeant and I ended up not being somewhere I was supposed to be. I was arrested, spent the night in jail and released early the next morning. No charges were ever even filed once I spoke to my commander.. So there is no case for which to have a disposition.

Of course this is just me assuming why I was denied. Although that is the only time in my adult life I have even been arrested. Nothing more than one summary offense when I was 18 (15 years ago) and a couple traffic violations.

I assume that an arrest record for AWOL without a case disposition could certainly trip whatever system they use. I plan to send the Challenge form tomorrow along with a copy of my Honorable Discharge.

My only real question is this: Why has this never caused me to be denied in the past? I have filled out the 4473 dozens of times over the last few years. Do these things just "happen" sometimes?

And lastly, should I hire an attorney? Personally I don't think that will be necessary, since I have a pretty good idea of the cause of my denial.

Has anyone here ever had to challenge a denial in Pennsylvania before? What was the outcome?

kilotanker22 · April 30, 2020, 11:40 PM

I forgot to mention that after the denial, the clerk at the gunship called the PICS worker for clarification and I was denied again.

**Tom Servo** · May 1, 2020, 02:55 AM

You can contest the denial through this site.

The only answers we can give would be speculation. We don't have access to your records, and it's not a good idea to give out personal information online.

April 30, 2020, 11:35 PM	#1
kilotanker22 Senior Member Join Date: October 14, 2012 Location: North Central, PA Posts: 2,117	Got denied on a PICS check today. So I got denied on a background check today. First time ever. Even just renewed my LTC a month ago. The only time I have ever even been arrested was when I was in the Army. I had a miscommunication with my First Sergeant and I ended up not being somewhere I was supposed to be. I was arrested, spent the night in jail and released early the next morning. No charges were ever even filed once I spoke to my commander.. So there is no case for which to have a disposition. Of course this is just me assuming why I was denied. Although that is the only time in my adult life I have even been arrested. Nothing more than one summary offense when I was 18 (15 years ago) and a couple traffic violations. I assume that an arrest record for AWOL without a case disposition could certainly trip whatever system they use. I plan to send the Challenge form tomorrow along with a copy of my Honorable Discharge. My only real question is this: Why has this never caused me to be denied in the past? I have filled out the 4473 dozens of times over the last few years. Do these things just "happen" sometimes? And lastly, should I hire an attorney? Personally I don't think that will be necessary, since I have a pretty good idea of the cause of my denial. Has anyone here ever had to challenge a denial in Pennsylvania before? What was the outcome? __________________ “We do not seek peace in order to be at war, but we go to war that we may have peace. Be peaceful, therefore, in warring, so that you may vanquish those whom you war against, and bring them to the prosperity of peace. – St. Augustine

April 30, 2020, 11:40 PM	#2
kilotanker22 Senior Member Join Date: October 14, 2012 Location: North Central, PA Posts: 2,117	I forgot to mention that after the denial, the clerk at the gunship called the PICS worker for clarification and I was denied again. __________________ “We do not seek peace in order to be at war, but we go to war that we may have peace. Be peaceful, therefore, in warring, so that you may vanquish those whom you war against, and bring them to the prosperity of peace. – St. Augustine

May 1, 2020, 02:55 AM	#3
Tom Servo Staff Join Date: September 27, 2008 Location: Foothills of the Appalachians Posts: 13,059	You can contest the denial through this site. The only answers we can give would be speculation. We don't have access to your records, and it's not a good idea to give out personal information online. __________________ Sometimes it’s nice not to destroy the world for a change. --Randall Munroe