The Firing Line Forums

Go Back   The Firing Line Forums > The Hide > The Hunt

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old November 13, 2017, 08:36 AM   #1
CDW4ME
Senior Member
 
Join Date: March 18, 2009
Posts: 1,321
Delta Elite 10mm Deer

My 1st handgun deer.
Delta Elite 10mm with Hornady 155 XTP 1,400 fps / 675# KE. (My chrono)
Whitetail deer at 18 yards, according to calculator bullet was about 1,330 fps / 608# KE at impact.
Shot from ground blind.
Complete penetration, exit wound in pic.
Deer ran about 40 yards.



__________________
Strive to carry the handgun you would want anywhere, everywhere; forget that good area bullcrap.
"Wouldn't want to / Nobody volunteer to" get shot by _____ is not indicative of quickly incapacitating.
CDW4ME is offline  
Old November 13, 2017, 09:44 PM   #2
amprecon
Senior Member
 
Join Date: November 5, 1999
Location: TN
Posts: 786
Nice going! I've decided on 10mm as my woods handgun but have been stuck between a DE, G20, G40 and P220 Elite SAO. Will probably go with a G20 as my other handguns are also all Glocks.
__________________
"You can't get 'em all Josey."
"That's a fact".
"Well how come you doin' this then?"
"Cause I got nothin' better to do."
amprecon is offline  
Old November 14, 2017, 07:39 AM   #3
CDW4ME
Senior Member
 
Join Date: March 18, 2009
Posts: 1,321
Thanks. I've got a Glock 20SF too, nice pistol.
__________________
Strive to carry the handgun you would want anywhere, everywhere; forget that good area bullcrap.
"Wouldn't want to / Nobody volunteer to" get shot by _____ is not indicative of quickly incapacitating.
CDW4ME is offline  
Old November 14, 2017, 08:19 AM   #4
Picher
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 14, 2004
Location: Maine
Posts: 3,694
"Shot through the heart...and you're to blame!"

Nice!
Picher is offline  
Old November 14, 2017, 08:51 AM   #5
98 220 swift
Senior Member
 
Join Date: January 4, 2015
Location: Perryville MO
Posts: 426
Nice.


I shot a medium sized buck this weekend with my EEA Witness Elite Match in 10mm. At about 25 yards. he ran about 100 yards and was dead. My load was a 180gr xtp with 14.3gr AA9 chrono at 1325 fps. Stout load. I also had a complete pass through kinda made me wonder what a lighter bullet would do. I would post a pic but cant figure out how to do it anymore.
98 220 swift is offline  
Old November 14, 2017, 09:08 AM   #6
stephen426
Senior Member
 
Join Date: March 11, 2005
Posts: 3,840
Nice Shot! It amazes me how an animal can not only survive that long after being shot in the heart, but run so far. I was reading that people who have a heart attack don't remain conscious for more than a few seconds since the brain requires so much oxygen. For an animal to run a hundred yards or more is amazing.
__________________
The ATF should be a convenience store instead of a government agency!
stephen426 is offline  
Old November 14, 2017, 01:37 PM   #7
CDW4ME
Senior Member
 
Join Date: March 18, 2009
Posts: 1,321
Quote:
Originally Posted by stephen426 View Post
Nice Shot! It amazes me how an animal can not only survive that long after being shot in the heart, but run so far. I was reading that people who have a heart attack don't remain conscious for more than a few seconds since the brain requires so much oxygen. For an animal to run a hundred yards or more is amazing.
Thanks. It made it about 40 yards.
Didn't just have a big hole in heart, also a broken front leg. (1st pic)
Bullet broke bone and made about a 1 1/4'' hole impact path was right to left <----
Entry hole in heart (2nd pic) pulverized greater area than the diameter of an expanded 155 XTP (about .65 after 4 layer denim into water filled jugs)



__________________
Strive to carry the handgun you would want anywhere, everywhere; forget that good area bullcrap.
"Wouldn't want to / Nobody volunteer to" get shot by _____ is not indicative of quickly incapacitating.

Last edited by CDW4ME; November 16, 2017 at 12:51 PM. Reason: pics not loading
CDW4ME is offline  
Old November 14, 2017, 03:15 PM   #8
Lohman446
Senior Member
 
Join Date: April 22, 2016
Posts: 2,192
Quote:
Nice Shot! It amazes me how an animal can not only survive that long after being shot in the heart, but run so far. I was reading that people who have a heart attack don't remain conscious for more than a few seconds since the brain requires so much oxygen. For an animal to run a hundred yards or more is amazing.
It does me as well. My biggest memory of this was several years ago (over a decade) shooting a deer that was running and quartering away from me. It was a stupid shot to take and I did anyways. Got lucky and the shot was textbook. I "poured" out most of the vitals in the front of the chest cavity because they were liquefied. Thing still ran over 100 yards.
Lohman446 is offline  
Old November 15, 2017, 11:36 AM   #9
bamaranger
Senior Member
 
Join Date: October 9, 2009
Location: North Alabama
Posts: 8,273
atta boy

First deer with a handgun is one ahead of me! Good for you! I've toyed with killing a deer with a handgun, but Bambi never shows up when I carry the pistol.

A 155 gr slug is not normally thought of as a hunting load in 10mm.......but your results speak for themselves.

Curious as to how many lbs that doe weighed?
bamaranger is offline  
Old November 15, 2017, 12:33 PM   #10
CDW4ME
Senior Member
 
Join Date: March 18, 2009
Posts: 1,321
Quote:
Originally Posted by bamaranger View Post
First deer with a handgun is one ahead of me! Good for you! I've toyed with killing a deer with a handgun, but Bambi never shows up when I carry the pistol.

A 155 gr slug is not normally thought of as a hunting load in 10mm.......but your results speak for themselves.
Thanks.

I had tested two different bullets through 4 layer denim into water filled gallon jugs.
The 155 XTP penetrated into the 4th jug with about .65 expansion
My 180 Gold Dot penetrated to the front of the 4th jug, cracked it, expansion from .75 - .80 (tested it twice)
If I get another low odds (of seeing one in daylight) opportunity for another deer I'm using the 180 Gold Dot
__________________
Strive to carry the handgun you would want anywhere, everywhere; forget that good area bullcrap.
"Wouldn't want to / Nobody volunteer to" get shot by _____ is not indicative of quickly incapacitating.
CDW4ME is offline  
Old November 15, 2017, 01:46 PM   #11
Roadkill2228
Senior Member
 
Join Date: March 8, 2014
Location: Nipawin, Saskatchewan
Posts: 311
In regards to the comparison between animals and humans time to unconsciousness through heart trauma...humans have survived for a stupid long time after some unthinkable injuries too. Numerous war and police reports tell us of individuals being chest shot more than once and continuing to fight. Additionally, as far as heart attacks and oxygen go...proportionate to our body weight and cardiovascular capacity, our brains are many, many times bigger and more demanding of oxygen than most any other creature, thus being much more sensitive to oxygen deprivation via circulatory failure.
Roadkill2228 is offline  
Old November 15, 2017, 02:10 PM   #12
Roadkill2228
Senior Member
 
Join Date: March 8, 2014
Location: Nipawin, Saskatchewan
Posts: 311
Craziest thing I saw for delayed death was a whitetail buck years ago. Ran over 300 yards, hit twice with a .270. One shoulder broken, a hole through the heart, a lung destroyed and the stomach completely ruptured (yuck!). It ran this far in knee deep snow. To this day I can't figure out how it's possible.
Roadkill2228 is offline  
Old November 15, 2017, 10:20 PM   #13
RMcL
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 7, 2006
Location: Alabama
Posts: 273
Quote:
Originally Posted by 98 220 swift View Post
Nice.


I shot a medium sized buck this weekend with my EEA Witness Elite Match in 10mm. At about 25 yards. he ran about 100 yards and was dead. My load was a 180gr xtp with 14.3gr AA9 chrono at 1325 fps. Stout load. I also had a complete pass through kinda made me wonder what a lighter bullet would do. I would post a pic but cant figure out how to do it anymore.

That looks like a great deer load for the 10mm!

It is the ballistic twin of the *180 grain 38WCF, (aka .38-40), load introduced in 1881. Earlier .38WCF rounds were loaded with a 160 grain bullet.

*When that black powder .40 caliber round was fired from a 24 inch rifle barrel.

Last edited by RMcL; November 15, 2017 at 10:26 PM.
RMcL is offline  
Old November 18, 2017, 09:04 PM   #14
RMcL
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 7, 2006
Location: Alabama
Posts: 273
Quote:
Originally Posted by RMcL View Post
That looks like a great deer load for the 10mm!

It is the ballistic twin of the *180 grain 38WCF, (aka .38-40), load introduced in 1881. Earlier .38WCF rounds were loaded with a 160 grain bullet.

*When that black powder .40 caliber round was fired from a 24 inch rifle barrel.
Lest I be misunderstood:

In comparing the 10mm pistol round to the 1881 vintage 38-40 in a rifle, my intent is not to denigrate the pistol; but rather to extole the virtues of both the vintage rifle and modern pistol as solid performers in the deer woods! The modern turn to handgun hunting has by its success, forced a modern reexamination of early black powder cartridge rifles as viable deer calibers.

Also, some may not be aware the 38-40 is actually a .40 caliber round.
RMcL is offline  
Old November 19, 2017, 02:03 AM   #15
Rob228
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 29, 2010
Location: Hampstead NC
Posts: 1,450
I like the skateboard tape on the front strap of your 1911, I do the same thing with both of mine.
Rob228 is offline  
Old November 19, 2017, 07:58 AM   #16
eastbank
Senior Member
 
Join Date: February 7, 2008
Location: pa.
Posts: 2,450
and they say my 1892 Winchester 38-40 shooting a 180gr bullet at close to 1400 fps with a heavy charge of unique will not take deer. you should see what my winchester 1886 in 40-82 does with a 260gr bullet at close 1600 fps to deer. eastbank.

Last edited by eastbank; November 19, 2017 at 08:04 AM.
eastbank is offline  
Old November 19, 2017, 08:06 AM   #17
CDW4ME
Senior Member
 
Join Date: March 18, 2009
Posts: 1,321
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob228 View Post
I like the skateboard tape on the front strap of your 1911, I do the same thing with both of mine.
I've got 1911's with front straps that are scalloped, checkered and then the skateboard tape.
In order of my preference: scalloped, skateboard tape, checkered
__________________
Strive to carry the handgun you would want anywhere, everywhere; forget that good area bullcrap.
"Wouldn't want to / Nobody volunteer to" get shot by _____ is not indicative of quickly incapacitating.
CDW4ME is offline  
Old November 20, 2017, 08:42 AM   #18
Sure Shot Mc Gee
Senior Member
 
Join Date: January 2, 2012
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 3,876
Very nice pistol. American MADE I noticed.
I always enjoy reading about those who take Big Game with a open sighted carry pistol instead of some 2500.00 ($) gizmo mounted hunting thing'ee resembling a howitzer hand canon. Congratulations ~~Good shot Sir. S/S
Sure Shot Mc Gee is offline  
Old November 20, 2017, 12:53 PM   #19
CDW4ME
Senior Member
 
Join Date: March 18, 2009
Posts: 1,321
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sure Shot Mc Gee View Post
Very nice pistol. American MADE I noticed.
I always enjoy reading about those who take Big Game with a open sighted carry pistol instead of some 2500.00 ($) gizmo mounted hunting thing'ee resembling a howitzer hand canon. Congratulations ~~Good shot Sir. S/S
Thanks.
I rested the pistol on a camera tripod covered with a towel, used the same for practice.
__________________
Strive to carry the handgun you would want anywhere, everywhere; forget that good area bullcrap.
"Wouldn't want to / Nobody volunteer to" get shot by _____ is not indicative of quickly incapacitating.
CDW4ME is offline  
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:14 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site and contents, including all posts, Copyright © 1998-2021 S.W.A.T. Magazine
Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent: thefiringline.com
Page generated in 0.08686 seconds with 8 queries