Charter arms boomer(44spl) vs ruger lcr(327) - Page 2

agtman · May 8, 2019, 11:51 AM

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How set are you on weight?
If you are interested in Charter Arms, the Pitbull in .45 acp is only a few ounces more, except you get real sights. Since ammo cost is significant, .45 acp can cost almost half that of .44 special.
Just throwing that out there.

Based on several recent reviews of Charter Arms revolvers, I've become reasonably convinced that basic factory QC has been restored by the new owners - that, and the lifetime warranty is attractive.

I'm strongly considering buying C.A.'s .41 Magnum 'Pug' for four reasons: first, it's only about a $400 gun; second, I have a 'thang' for the 'Middle Magnum' cartridge; third, the 2.5" Pug is significantly lighter than my 4" N-frame Model 58 (23 ounces vs. 41 ounces); ... and fourth, ...well, just because.

One review here:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XkrAqdLiHPw

JERRYS. · May 8, 2019, 03:01 PM

considering that .41 magnum Bulldog, I wonder if the Buffalo Bore 190gr. LHP in .44 special could be fired reasonably regular in a today made .44 special Bulldog?

agtman · May 8, 2019, 05:14 PM

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considering that .41 magnum Bulldog, I wonder if the Buffalo Bore 190gr. LHP in .44 special could be fired reasonably regular in a today made .44 special Bulldog?

Good question.

HighValleyRanch · May 8, 2019, 05:22 PM

From the current BB website:
"This ammunition is for use in ALL 44 SPL and 44 MAG. firearms except for the Charter Arms Bull Dog. No, this ammo won't blow up your Bull Dog, but if you shoot more than a few hundred rounds of this ammo in a Bull Dog, the gun will get looser than it already was, will go out of "time" and stop working."

dgludwig · May 8, 2019, 05:51 PM

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considering that .41 magnum Bulldog,

Taurus used to make a couple of fine, snubnosed, 5-shot capacity, s/s revolvers chambered in .41 Magnum. I have the heavier variant with a ported, 2 1/2" barrel; the model 415. It's been a reliable, accurate gun that's remarkably controllable when firing fast, repeat, double-action shots.

Cosmodragoon · May 8, 2019, 10:49 PM

The LCR carries wonderfully. It feels good in hand. It gives you six shots.

Yes, .327 Federal is louder. Any small revolver is going to be very loud and worse if fired in a small enclosed space. Either choice is likely to do hearing damage. At the end of the day, how much worse will one be over the other should you survive a defensive encounter with it? (If you end up needing that sixth shot, you'll have even more hearing damage but you might be alive to complain about it.)

If the extra noise is still a deal-breaker for anyone, what if the choice was five rounds of .44 special versus six rounds of .32 H&R magnum? The .327 certainly gives you options.

JERRYS. · May 9, 2019, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by HighValleyRanch

From the current BB website:
"This ammunition is for use in ALL 44 SPL and 44 MAG. firearms except for the Charter Arms Bull Dog. No, this ammo won't blow up your Bull Dog, but if you shoot more than a few hundred rounds of this ammo in a Bull Dog, the gun will get looser than it already was, will go out of "time" and stop working."

LOL, seems they've had the same experiences I've had with the Bulldogs....

Trooper Joe · May 17, 2019, 07:36 PM

Get the Bulldog. This thing is amazing. I bought mine on a whim and really like it. It is very accurate with PMC 180 grn ammo (not so much with Cowboy Action Loads).

Only paid about $300 for it.

I also have a beautiful S&W 21-4 made in 2005. Too heavy to carry but a great shooter.

Trooper Joe

silvermane_1 · May 19, 2019, 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by agtman

Based on several recent reviews of Charter Arms revolvers, I've become reasonably convinced that basic factory QC has been restored by the new owners - that, and the lifetime warranty is attractive.

I'm strongly considering buying C.A.'s .41 Magnum 'Pug' for four reasons: first, it's only about a $400 gun; second, I have a 'thang' for the 'Middle Magnum' cartridge; third, the 2.5" Pug is significantly lighter than my 4" N-frame Model 58 (23 ounces vs. 41 ounces); ... and fourth, ...well, just because.

One review here:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XkrAqdLiHPw

Snub nose 41 mag?, down load it to "41 Spl." levels and that is a nice combo, less recoil than 44 Spl. and yet still a "big bore" snub wheelgun.

WC145 · May 19, 2019, 09:17 AM

I owned one of the original Charter Arms Backpackers, the gun that the "Boomer" is modeled after. It was great as a "get the hell off me" belly gun but the lack of a front sight makes it useless beyond point shooting distance. Pick something with a front sight.

Dain Bramage · May 19, 2019, 11:11 PM

Charter sells a Crimson Trace grip for the Bulldog. I have one on my Boomer. Takes it a bit past "belly gun" distance. Biggest detriment to accuracy is the DA-only trigger.

May 8, 2019, 05:22 PM	#29
HighValleyRanch Senior Member Join Date: July 15, 2005 Posts: 4,066	From the current BB website: "This ammunition is for use in ALL 44 SPL and 44 MAG. firearms except for the Charter Arms Bull Dog. No, this ammo won't blow up your Bull Dog, but if you shoot more than a few hundred rounds of this ammo in a Bull Dog, the gun will get looser than it already was, will go out of "time" and stop working." __________________ From the sweet grass to the slaughter house; From birth until death; We travel between these two eternities........from 'Broken Trail"

May 19, 2019, 09:17 AM	#35
WC145 Senior Member Join Date: October 18, 2008 Location: Downeast Maine Posts: 1,836	I owned one of the original Charter Arms Backpackers, the gun that the "Boomer" is modeled after. It was great as a "get the hell off me" belly gun but the lack of a front sight makes it useless beyond point shooting distance. Pick something with a front sight. __________________ "If violent crime is to be curbed, it is only the intended victim who can do it. The felon does not fear the police, and he fears neither judge or jury. Therefore what he must be taught to fear is his victim." - LtCol Jeff Cooper

May 8, 2019, 03:01 PM	#27
JERRYS. Senior Member Join Date: September 23, 2013 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,968	considering that .41 magnum Bulldog, I wonder if the Buffalo Bore 190gr. LHP in .44 special could be fired reasonably regular in a today made .44 special Bulldog?

May 8, 2019, 10:49 PM	#31
Cosmodragoon Senior Member Join Date: March 18, 2013 Location: Northeastern US Posts: 1,869	The LCR carries wonderfully. It feels good in hand. It gives you six shots. Yes, .327 Federal is louder. Any small revolver is going to be very loud and worse if fired in a small enclosed space. Either choice is likely to do hearing damage. At the end of the day, how much worse will one be over the other should you survive a defensive encounter with it? (If you end up needing that sixth shot, you'll have even more hearing damage but you might be alive to complain about it.) If the extra noise is still a deal-breaker for anyone, what if the choice was five rounds of .44 special versus six rounds of .32 H&R magnum? The .327 certainly gives you options.

May 17, 2019, 07:36 PM	#33
Trooper Joe Senior Member Join Date: January 5, 2005 Location: Michigan Posts: 222	Get the Bulldog. This thing is amazing. I bought mine on a whim and really like it. It is very accurate with PMC 180 grn ammo (not so much with Cowboy Action Loads). Only paid about $300 for it. I also have a beautiful S&W 21-4 made in 2005. Too heavy to carry but a great shooter. Trooper Joe

May 19, 2019, 11:11 PM	#36
Dain Bramage Senior Member Join Date: December 4, 2001 Location: Arlington, WA Posts: 219	Charter sells a Crimson Trace grip for the Bulldog. I have one on my Boomer. Takes it a bit past "belly gun" distance. Biggest detriment to accuracy is the DA-only trigger.