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Old March 10, 2013, 12:11 AM   #1
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Trouble w/ p226 advice

I got a sig p226 equinox and about a year ago the grip screw bushings stripped out of the frame. I didn't know what to do so I had it sent in to sig (under warranty at gander mtn) about 2 months later it came back in with a note from the gunsmith who worked on it he said that he had no other choice than to rethread the frame for the same bushing. I personally felt like that a good long term solution but I let it be. Since then I've probably only shot it twice and last time about a week ago the screw came out again with the same problem and I talked to a couple gunsmiths they both said I had been screwed over. What would y'all recommend for a permanent solution. Should I contact sig again or what?
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Old March 10, 2013, 12:20 AM   #2
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Seems like it could be tapped for a larger screw.
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Old March 10, 2013, 12:22 AM   #3
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When he said he had no other choice but to rethread, I suspect he was trying to tell you that he was not authorized to modify the gun from the factory configuration.

You can get it fixed, but it doesn't sound like SIG is your best option. Maybe contact them about having them pay to have someone else fix it.
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Old March 10, 2013, 12:24 AM   #4
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Definately!

They should repair or replace anything and everything if necessary and you should pursue a permanent fix.
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Old March 10, 2013, 01:16 AM   #5
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How did the grip screw bushings strip themselves out of the frame?
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Old March 10, 2013, 01:31 AM   #6
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I would make sig stand behind thier Warranty. Contact them and tell them to fix it right or ask for a new gun. Don't let them off the hook
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Old March 10, 2013, 01:34 AM   #7
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At times, SIG can be less than forthcoming with honoring their warranty commitment. Hold them to it.
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Old March 10, 2013, 09:28 AM   #8
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How did the grip screw bushings strip themselves out of the frame?
I am not sure, they just kept coming loose right from the factory so I finally took them off and saw that the bushing was just laying on the frame
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Old March 10, 2013, 12:25 PM   #9
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Sometimes re-tapping for a slightly different thread pitch will work.
Or maybe use some teflon tape to take up the slack.
Epoxy?
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Old March 19, 2013, 11:12 AM   #10
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Taking it down to gander mtn they said it'd be free for me so we shall see how sig takes care of this
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Old March 19, 2013, 02:20 PM   #11
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I always use loc-tite on grip screws. I can't remember what color, and I don't want to give you wrong advice. But there is a certain color of loc-tite that you can use. It will keep them secure, but it's not so strong that you can't take them off if needed.

You can google the best one to use.
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Old March 19, 2013, 02:24 PM   #12
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Ya I have used the loctite on all my gun screws that's not the problem though
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Old March 19, 2013, 09:43 PM   #13
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I, too, would contact SIG first.

If they fail to make it right, you may consider a set of E2 grips as they don't need to thread into the bushing. The bushing is there to merely locate the grips.

Weird place for the gun to fail' anyway. Not a whole lot of stress there and the screws rarely need to be turned.
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Old March 19, 2013, 09:46 PM   #14
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Weird place for the gun to fail' anyway. Not a whole lot of stress there and the screws rarely need to be turned.
I've had it happen to me before too.

Trick is you only want to get the screws hand tight. Once it stops turning stop. Don't give it that extra turn. Better to have them come lose every once in a while than have them stripped.
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Old March 19, 2013, 10:07 PM   #15
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I've had it happen to me before too.

Trick is you only want to get the screws hand tight. Once it stops turning stop. Don't give it that extra turn. Better to have them come lose every once in a while than have them stripped.
Ya, I don't tighten them any tighter than other pistols... :/
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Old March 20, 2013, 12:10 AM   #16
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My experience has been to never use the blue removable Loctite on or anywhere near plastic. The fumes alone will cause micro cracks in the plastic. Contact cement used in carpentry or Testors clear model cement works fine for grip screws.

Assuming the threads in the frame are not too badly damaged, staking the bushing in place similar to that of the gas key on the bolt carrier of the AR15 rifle may work.

Since the frame of the P226 is aluminum I would use a small automatic center punch at four points around the bushing. Should the hold not appear secure I would redo using a higher setting on the automatic center punch.
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Old March 20, 2013, 12:28 AM   #17
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Gee, guys, the problem is that a P226 doesn't HAVE grip screw bushings like a 1911. The screws turn directly into the aluminum frame, which is why they are prone to stripping out if not managed right.

Loctite Form a Thread repair might work.
You might could put 1911 grip screw bushings in and modify the grips to fit.
Or find/make a larger diameter screw with the same head and re-tap.
Or go with the E2.
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Old March 20, 2013, 08:29 AM   #18
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Gee, guys, the problem is that a P226 doesn't HAVE grip screw bushings like a 1911. The screws turn directly into the aluminum frame, which is why they are prone to stripping out if not managed right.

Loctite Form a Thread repair might work.
You might could put 1911 grip screw bushings in and modify the grips to fit.
Or find/make a larger diameter screw with the same head and re-tap.
Or go with the E2.
Why the e2?
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Old March 20, 2013, 08:30 AM   #19
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Why the e2?
Whoop nevermind I was thinking the e2 was a different version
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Old March 20, 2013, 08:46 AM   #20
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The E2 grip does not attach with the regular grip screws. I have not fooled with one to know the details, but the conversion comes with an installation tool. There is a video at:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWEq070rnLU
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Old March 20, 2013, 09:11 AM   #21
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You are a little unclear as to who you sent the gun to. If I interpereted your post correctly, it sounds like Gander Mountain had their "gunsmith" "fix" your gun.

SIG would never open up your threads...call SIG, tell them what happened, they will take good care of you and your gun.
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Old March 20, 2013, 09:41 AM   #22
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You are a little unclear as to who you sent the gun to. If I interpereted your post correctly, it sounds like Gander Mountain had their "gunsmith" "fix" your gun.

SIG would never open up your threads...call SIG, tell them what happened, they will take good care of you and your gun.
I have an upgraded warranty plan through gander mtn where I bought the gun. I don't send the gun to sig directly I dropped it off at gander mtn and they shipped it to sig. When it got back it had notes from the sig gunsmith who had said he just re threaded the frame for the grip screw
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Old April 4, 2013, 02:50 PM   #23
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Figured y'all might want an update gander mountain got the pistol back from sig today and there was a not attached saying it was "irreparable" and that I'm basically SOL
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Old April 4, 2013, 03:39 PM   #24
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and this is why you use a credit card.

I have never had a transaction problem that couldn't be fixed by informing a credit card that someone was mishandling me on their warranty.

We the consumers pay more because of the 2% processing fee and credit card CEO's pay. Use it.
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Old April 4, 2013, 07:55 PM   #25
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“saying it was "irreparable" and that I'm basically SOL”

Unfortunate to hear of your trouble and appreciate the info. The questionable quality of Sig has been on various forums for a number of years now.

Perhaps I’m asking for it by saying I believe Sig’s quality isn’t what it was in the distant past. Some say the better Sig’s are pre 2004. Currently a friend and I no longer own a Sig because of preference not quality. I believe both were German made.

Same can be said of the Walther PPK made by S&W and the Bushmaster AR-15 made under the Freedom Group. Bushmaster’s prior to year 2000 are said to be good, all my Bushmaster’s are pre 2000. The original Bushmaster Company is now Windham Weaponry. And I don’t believe Remington being under the Freedom Group helped the quality any.
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