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April 17, 2019, 06:41 PM | #26 | |
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As I have said many times....there is a place for wolves in any healthy ecosystem. But their numbers, like game, non-gamer and other predators need to be controlled to keep interaction with humans and the threat to their domestic animals to a minimum. Wolves, like deer and other wildlife can be and are a source of positive economic impact to local communities. Go to any resort town in Northern Wisconsin and half the tee-shirts and sweatshirts you see for sale, have a wolf image on them. Most resorts can tell you the site where the local county mounties dump deer carcasses and wolfs are known to be readily seen. Similar to 40 years ago and going to the local dump at night to see the bears. Hearing them at night makes tourists swoon almost as much as the sickening sound of the loons at night. |
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April 17, 2019, 07:28 PM | #27 | |
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I suspect there are wolves in the area now, but I haven't seen signs, or heard howling that was not obviously coyote. If they are here there aren't many....yet.
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April 17, 2019, 07:59 PM | #28 |
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Here's some info on the study at Isle Royale in Michigan. https://www.washingtonpost.com/scien...=.42c6f6544517
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April 18, 2019, 06:51 AM | #29 |
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Thanks for the link Blindstitch, I was wondering what caused the pack to die off with a captive and plentiful food source.
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April 19, 2019, 07:50 AM | #31 | |
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The similarities between the two are, that man is the one who throws the biggest wrench in the works when it comes to them being balanced. Man has eliminated species to reduce competition, upset the balance thru over harvest and stocked/planted non-native species that he thought more desirable, even tho they may become invasive or injure the ecosystem. This includes domesticated animals. This makes so Ma Nature has even a tougher, if not impossible job of balancing things out. So what we end up doing is not necessarily balancing things out best for the ecosystem, but for man and his desires. Used to be when it came to hunting and fishing it was mainly for subsistence, now, for the most part, it's purely for sport. This is why we have such high densities of deer populations and very limited access to private land. Just like too many wolves are bad....so are to many deer/elk. No different than too few. |
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April 20, 2019, 09:47 AM | #32 |
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A pack of 6 wolves eat a full grown elk every night. Not "may" or "can", they DO.
Just for the sake of argument tho we will say a pack of 10. With 150 wolves thats 15 elk every night. We now have a very small elk herd here. Check out Gardiner Mt. Used to have one of the biggest elk herds and some of the best elk hunting in the world. I dont know if they even have a season now. The feds didnt "reintroduce" anything. They introduced an invasive species thinking that people were to stupid to know any better. Apparently they were right. I dont know about Washington but our native wolf wasnt much bigger than a coyote here |
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