Garand problems - and the solution

**4V50 Gary** · May 6, 2001, 06:15 PM

Had my Garand rebarreled and when it was returned via UPS, I attempted to mount it in a new stock. When I attempted to put the trigger assembly in, it wouldn't fit. As it had a new stock, I fiddled with the stock a bit and removed some wood here and there. Still no go. Finally figured out that one of the legs which protrude beneath the receiver was bent inwards.

The solution was to bend it outwards of course. This was accomplished by driving a square piece of metal (hand filed for a very slight taper) between the legs and stopping short of the bridge (the piece which cams the firing pin away from the bolt face when the bolt is unlocked). The wedge was allowed to sit in the receive for three days. Afterwards, the trigger assembly could be snapped into place. Right now I'm leaving the trigger assembly in place to ensure that the metal develops a "memory."

Just thought I'd share my misadventures with you guys.

johnwill · May 7, 2001, 06:49 PM

Another UPS success story.

I guess they used your action for batting practice...

zot · May 8, 2001, 03:29 PM

no kidding! they must hate guns, I got a AR-15 via
UPS and the box was smashed and 2 gouges in receiver,the
a-hole said either accept deleivery or not,I accepted and found the damage,S.O.G. said it wasn't them,UPS said I accepted damaged box, the guy who ordered it took it anyway
so that was a close call for my money I could have lost,
Fed-ex seems to deleiver faster and no messed up boxes,UPS
looks like they ran the box over with one of their trucks.

**4V50 Gary** · May 8, 2001, 04:47 PM

I don't think it was UPS and I suspect the lower portion of the receiver was clamped (without support blocks) into a vise to effect the barrel change. This is a no-no as the compression caused one of the "legs" to bend inwards ever so slightly that visually, it was not discernable until dropped into a stock.

However, the upper handguard which clips onto the barrel was cracked for almost its entire length. That could be either careless packing or unnecessary roughness. It was glued back and I intend to drill vent holes in it later (probably brass line the holes for looks). Hey, it's my toy and I can do anything I want in butchering it.

BTW, this is the gun which was modified to take the M1D scope block mount. I'm fitting to a Nigerian stock with pistol grip and have to modify the bipod to fit the Garand gas-cylinder and will probably put a Smith Enterprise compensator on it too. It already has a rubber butt pad on the stock.

johnwill · May 12, 2001, 04:27 PM

FWIW, handguards are frequently cracked during the process of removing the barrel band. That little sucker is almost impossible to remove without out the tool, which looks like a huge pair of snap ring pliers. I've run across cracked ones several times, and when I wanted to remove the band, I figured out why they were cracking them! I sent mine to a guy that had the tool...

Doctari · May 14, 2001, 09:01 PM

I have the tool............

They still crack plenty.....<sigh>

Mike

May 8, 2001, 03:29 PM	#3
zot Senior Member Join Date: April 2, 1999 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 566	ups succes story no kidding! they must hate guns, I got a AR-15 via UPS and the box was smashed and 2 gouges in receiver,the a-hole said either accept deleivery or not,I accepted and found the damage,S.O.G. said it wasn't them,UPS said I accepted damaged box, the guy who ordered it took it anyway so that was a close call for my money I could have lost, Fed-ex seems to deleiver faster and no messed up boxes,UPS looks like they ran the box over with one of their trucks.

May 8, 2001, 04:47 PM	#4
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,833	Damage to my M1 probably not attributable to UPS I don't think it was UPS and I suspect the lower portion of the receiver was clamped (without support blocks) into a vise to effect the barrel change. This is a no-no as the compression caused one of the "legs" to bend inwards ever so slightly that visually, it was not discernable until dropped into a stock. However, the upper handguard which clips onto the barrel was cracked for almost its entire length. That could be either careless packing or unnecessary roughness. It was glued back and I intend to drill vent holes in it later (probably brass line the holes for looks). Hey, it's my toy and I can do anything I want in butchering it. BTW, this is the gun which was modified to take the M1D scope block mount. I'm fitting to a Nigerian stock with pistol grip and have to modify the bipod to fit the Garand gas-cylinder and will probably put a Smith Enterprise compensator on it too. It already has a rubber butt pad on the stock.

May 6, 2001, 06:15 PM	#1
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,833	Had my Garand rebarreled and when it was returned via UPS, I attempted to mount it in a new stock. When I attempted to put the trigger assembly in, it wouldn't fit. As it had a new stock, I fiddled with the stock a bit and removed some wood here and there. Still no go. Finally figured out that one of the legs which protrude beneath the receiver was bent inwards. The solution was to bend it outwards of course. This was accomplished by driving a square piece of metal (hand filed for a very slight taper) between the legs and stopping short of the bridge (the piece which cams the firing pin away from the bolt face when the bolt is unlocked). The wedge was allowed to sit in the receive for three days. Afterwards, the trigger assembly could be snapped into place. Right now I'm leaving the trigger assembly in place to ensure that the metal develops a "memory." Just thought I'd share my misadventures with you guys.

May 7, 2001, 06:49 PM	#2
johnwill Senior Member Join Date: April 6, 2000 Location: PA Posts: 3,451	Another UPS success story. I guess they used your action for batting practice...

May 12, 2001, 04:27 PM	#5
johnwill Senior Member Join Date: April 6, 2000 Location: PA Posts: 3,451	FWIW, handguards are frequently cracked during the process of removing the barrel band. That little sucker is almost impossible to remove without out the tool, which looks like a huge pair of snap ring pliers. I've run across cracked ones several times, and when I wanted to remove the band, I figured out why they were cracking them! I sent mine to a guy that had the tool...

May 14, 2001, 09:01 PM	#6
Doctari Member Join Date: March 27, 1999 Location: Lansing, MI Posts: 86	I have the tool............ They still crack plenty.....<sigh> Mike