For a Glock 22... Storm Lake barrel or other .40 after market barrel?

Deaf Smith · March 13, 2017, 06:34 PM

Thinking about one for my Glock 22. I intend on using it as a defensive gun thus it needs to be 100 percent reliable. I intend on using top loads (some 180s get 1100 fps.)

Oh, and do any of the stainless steel recoil/guide rods work? Again, for defensive and it needs to be 100 percent reliable.

Thanks,

Deaf

P-35HP · March 13, 2017, 08:50 PM

I would leave it as is, if it works. Out of the box a Glock is expected to be 100% reliable, why messing around with it?
If ain't broken don't fix it.

Deaf Smith · March 13, 2017, 10:08 PM

I'm more worried about unsupported barrels and Kabooms than anything else.

Deaf

TruthTellers · March 14, 2017, 12:10 AM

If you won't take no for an answer, just go with Lone Wolf's Korean made barrels for $100. If you want the black finish, get the Alphawolf barrels for $40 more.

I don't think it's worth doing. I have no fear of a "kaboom" happening in a Glock when shooting factory ammunition.

rodfac · March 14, 2017, 04:53 AM

Deaf, as I understand it, Glock addressed the unsupported feed ramp area of their barrels years ago. It's no longer a problem. Others may chime in here, but the unsupported barrels were from early Gen 1 & 2 Glocks, if my information is correct.

That said, my wife has a G23 Gen 3, with both Lone Wolf & Storm Lake 9mm barrels for cheaper shooting during practice sessions. (I inadvertantly clicked on the Lone Wolf barrel while ordering the Storm Lake from Midway...BTW, anyone interested in either for their 23's?) To date, we have never had a malfunction of any sort with either...and that's over 1000 rounds. Accuracy is as good as the factory .40 barrel too. While she carries it with the .40 barrel for CC purposes, the 9mm is every bit as reliable. HTH's Rod

P-35HP · March 14, 2017, 12:35 PM

I would be interested in a conversion barrel for Glock 23 gen 3 (i.e from 40s&w to 9mm).

chrisintexas · March 14, 2017, 03:05 PM

What grain bullet is most recommended for 40 caliber?

lee n. field · March 14, 2017, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Again, for defensive and it needs to be 100 percent reliable.

Leave it stock. From what I've head, the old "kaboom" problem is mostly a thing of the past.

TunnelRat · March 14, 2017, 03:41 PM

If you're worried primarily about function I'd agree with others and leave it stock.

Fishbed77 · March 14, 2017, 04:16 PM

Agreed. ^

If you are looking for top reliability (no man-made device will ever be 100% reliable), keep the stock barrel and guide rod. Otherwise you are just throwing away money.

Also - I've seen steel guide rods break too.

TailGator · March 14, 2017, 04:33 PM

If you want to prove it to yourself, pick up your brass and look for bulges. Pretty good odds you won't find any from a recently manufactured Glock.

Do you reload?

Deaf Smith · March 14, 2017, 06:54 PM

Yep I reload. Tonight I'll check the barrel to see if it's supported or not.

My plan is to use the Glock .40 in my Glock 31, .357 Sig, and it's my IDPA gun. I handload 185 grain molly .40s with a light charge for IDPA.

Then the Glock 22, with a fully sported barrel, is the carry gun. It will have full loads (if not higher performance like Buffalo Bore.)

As for bullet weights, to me anything from 180s to 135s should be fine. After all, it is a .40! I have lots of T-series Winchester 155s right now.

Deaf

TruthTellers · March 14, 2017, 08:55 PM

This video covers the 10mm, but the info also applies to the .40 S&W as well. Basically when it comes to Gen 3 and 4 Glock .40's, there's little to worry about with Kabooms.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUKb5Xk_bPU

Deaf Smith · March 15, 2017, 11:31 AM

Yes, I checked the chamber (and put in a NY-1 trigger and 3.5 connector.) Chamber support looks very good!

Deaf

rodfac · March 16, 2017, 06:36 AM

P-35HP, PM sent...Regards, Rod

rodfac · March 16, 2017, 06:39 AM

Deaf, My wife's G23 really likes the 155's, both hand loads with Montana Golds as well as factory stuff. The hand loads are not full house either, most any reasonable powder charge will do with WSF or Unique. Rod

Onward Allusion · March 16, 2017, 08:17 AM

For anything beyond a Gen 2, the only reason I would have a 40S&W aftermarket barrel for a Glock 22 is if I reloaded hardcast.

As for a recoil spring upgrade, I swapped a heavier one on a capture steel guide rod to lighten recoil. Also swapped the striker spring for a heavier one to ensure ignition. Swapped out mag springs too for +10%. This is a bedside gun fitted with NS and a green CT. As close to 100% as possible - no gun is infallible, IMO.

Deaf Smith · March 16, 2017, 10:10 AM

Well that's the other thing... 135s, 155s, 165s, 180s... decisions decisions.

See for my Glock 31/32 .357 Sig it's easy.. 125s is about it. And my Glock 26/43 125s are fine with me to.

But the .40?

I see the:

135 gr Federal Premium JHP Reduced Recoil 1,190 ft/s
155 gr Guardian Gold JHP 1,205 ft/s
165 gr Remington Golden Saber 1,150 ft/s
180 gr Magtech FMJ-FP 1,050 ft/s
200 gr Doubletap FMJ-FP 1,050 ft/s (I dunno about this)

I basically want .357 magnum power from a 4 inch revolver as my standard. That is like 125gr at 1400 or 158 at 125. Same time I want good accuracy and excellent reliability (with reliability being number one in any load selection.)

It does not have to be fancy bouquet loads.

Now this list looks interesting!

http://www.ballistics101.com/40_caliber_sw.php

My research along with my fellow posters comments are welcome!

Oh, and why all this when I have a bunch of Glocks/Sigs/Colts/S&Ws/ in 9mm/.357 Sig/.45...

Cause besides a carry gun, this summer, I'm going down (or up really) lots of Texas rivers via kayak! Gonna be a fun summer and I can't carry a bunch of guns. Just the Glock 22 (I have it now) and maybe a J .38 full of snake shot. No long guns either.

Yes I have a great S&W .44 magnum but it's two legged critters that will be the most dangerous and mostly encountered. Hence the Glock.

Thanks,

Deaf

rebs · March 16, 2017, 12:11 PM

what about a Glock 21 45 acp, after market barrel or keep the stock one that came in the gun ?

Deaf Smith · March 16, 2017, 05:27 PM

Quote:

what about a Glock 21 45 acp, after market barrel or keep the stock one that came in the gun ?

They are to big for my hands. I prefer the Glock 17 size configuration (or I 'd have gotten a 10mm!!!)

Deaf

P-35HP · March 16, 2017, 08:44 PM

rodfac, just sent PM.

Best

P-35HP

john in jax · March 16, 2017, 09:27 PM

If it makes any difference I have a Lone Wolf ported stainless bbl in 45acp for my G30 that has been 100% reliable over the years.

Based on my experience with that bbl and a bunch of reviews I recently went with the Lone Wolf .40S&W conversion bbl for my G29.

j102 · March 16, 2017, 09:40 PM

OP,
Like most people have mentioned, you should not worry about anything with the Glock barrel. The factory recoil spring is super strong and the most reliable you can find for it. No need to change it. I have seen people changing it and having performance issues.
As far as a load for two legged critters, you don't need to go the extra mile, a good factory 155gr, 165gr or 180gr would do well. I prefer 165gr.
Your kayak plans sounds like fun. I hope you have a great time!

March 13, 2017, 06:34 PM	#1
Deaf Smith Senior Member Join Date: October 31, 2000 Location: Texican! Posts: 4,453	For a Glock 22... Storm Lake barrel or other .40 after market barrel? Thinking about one for my Glock 22. I intend on using it as a defensive gun thus it needs to be 100 percent reliable. I intend on using top loads (some 180s get 1100 fps.) Oh, and do any of the stainless steel recoil/guide rods work? Again, for defensive and it needs to be 100 percent reliable. Thanks, Deaf __________________ “To you who call yourselves ‘men of peace,’ I say, you are not safe without men of action by your side” Thucydides

March 13, 2017, 10:08 PM	#3
Deaf Smith Senior Member Join Date: October 31, 2000 Location: Texican! Posts: 4,453	I'm more worried about unsupported barrels and Kabooms than anything else. Deaf __________________ “To you who call yourselves ‘men of peace,’ I say, you are not safe without men of action by your side” Thucydides

March 14, 2017, 04:53 AM	#5
rodfac Senior Member Join Date: January 22, 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,624	Deaf, as I understand it, Glock addressed the unsupported feed ramp area of their barrels years ago. It's no longer a problem. Others may chime in here, but the unsupported barrels were from early Gen 1 & 2 Glocks, if my information is correct. That said, my wife has a G23 Gen 3, with both Lone Wolf & Storm Lake 9mm barrels for cheaper shooting during practice sessions. (I inadvertantly clicked on the Lone Wolf barrel while ordering the Storm Lake from Midway...BTW, anyone interested in either for their 23's?) To date, we have never had a malfunction of any sort with either...and that's over 1000 rounds. Accuracy is as good as the factory .40 barrel too. While she carries it with the .40 barrel for CC purposes, the 9mm is every bit as reliable. HTH's Rod __________________ Cherish our flag, honor it, defend it in word and deed, or get the hell out. Our Bill of Rights has been paid for by heros in uniform and shall not be diluted by misguided governmental social experiments. We owe this to our children, anything less is cowardice. USAF FAC, 5th Spl Forces, Vietnam Vet '69-'73. Last edited by rodfac; March 14, 2017 at 04:59 AM.

March 14, 2017, 03:41 PM	#9
TunnelRat Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2011 Posts: 12,212	If you're worried primarily about function I'd agree with others and leave it stock. __________________ Know the status of your weapon Keep your muzzle oriented so that no one will be hurt if the firearm discharges Keep your finger off the trigger until you have an adequate sight picture Maintain situational awareness

March 14, 2017, 06:54 PM	#12
Deaf Smith Senior Member Join Date: October 31, 2000 Location: Texican! Posts: 4,453	Yep I reload. Tonight I'll check the barrel to see if it's supported or not. My plan is to use the Glock .40 in my Glock 31, .357 Sig, and it's my IDPA gun. I handload 185 grain molly .40s with a light charge for IDPA. Then the Glock 22, with a fully sported barrel, is the carry gun. It will have full loads (if not higher performance like Buffalo Bore.) As for bullet weights, to me anything from 180s to 135s should be fine. After all, it is a .40! I have lots of T-series Winchester 155s right now. Deaf __________________ “To you who call yourselves ‘men of peace,’ I say, you are not safe without men of action by your side” Thucydides

March 13, 2017, 08:50 PM	#2
P-35HP Member Join Date: March 31, 2008 Location: NH Posts: 83	I would leave it as is, if it works. Out of the box a Glock is expected to be 100% reliable, why messing around with it? If ain't broken don't fix it.

March 14, 2017, 12:10 AM	#4
TruthTellers Senior Member Join Date: October 22, 2016 Posts: 3,888	If you won't take no for an answer, just go with Lone Wolf's Korean made barrels for $100. If you want the black finish, get the Alphawolf barrels for $40 more. I don't think it's worth doing. I have no fear of a "kaboom" happening in a Glock when shooting factory ammunition.

March 14, 2017, 12:35 PM	#6
P-35HP Member Join Date: March 31, 2008 Location: NH Posts: 83	I would be interested in a conversion barrel for Glock 23 gen 3 (i.e from 40s&w to 9mm).

March 14, 2017, 03:05 PM	#7
chrisintexas Senior Member Join Date: September 11, 2012 Posts: 388	What grain bullet is most recommended for 40 caliber?

March 14, 2017, 04:16 PM	#10
Fishbed77 Senior Member Join Date: November 23, 2010 Posts: 4,862	Agreed. ^ If you are looking for top reliability (no man-made device will ever be 100% reliable), keep the stock barrel and guide rod. Otherwise you are just throwing away money. Also - I've seen steel guide rods break too.

March 14, 2017, 04:33 PM	#11
TailGator Senior Member Join Date: May 8, 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3,787	If you want to prove it to yourself, pick up your brass and look for bulges. Pretty good odds you won't find any from a recently manufactured Glock. Do you reload?

March 14, 2017, 08:55 PM	#13
TruthTellers Senior Member Join Date: October 22, 2016 Posts: 3,888	This video covers the 10mm, but the info also applies to the .40 S&W as well. Basically when it comes to Gen 3 and 4 Glock .40's, there's little to worry about with Kabooms. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUKb5Xk_bPU

March 15, 2017, 11:31 AM	#14
Deaf Smith Senior Member Join Date: October 31, 2000 Location: Texican! Posts: 4,453	Yes, I checked the chamber (and put in a NY-1 trigger and 3.5 connector.) Chamber support looks very good! Deaf __________________ “To you who call yourselves ‘men of peace,’ I say, you are not safe without men of action by your side” Thucydides

March 16, 2017, 06:36 AM	#15
rodfac Senior Member Join Date: January 22, 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,624	P-35HP, PM sent...Regards, Rod __________________ Cherish our flag, honor it, defend it in word and deed, or get the hell out. Our Bill of Rights has been paid for by heros in uniform and shall not be diluted by misguided governmental social experiments. We owe this to our children, anything less is cowardice. USAF FAC, 5th Spl Forces, Vietnam Vet '69-'73.

March 16, 2017, 06:39 AM	#16
rodfac Senior Member Join Date: January 22, 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,624	Deaf, My wife's G23 really likes the 155's, both hand loads with Montana Golds as well as factory stuff. The hand loads are not full house either, most any reasonable powder charge will do with WSF or Unique. Rod __________________ Cherish our flag, honor it, defend it in word and deed, or get the hell out. Our Bill of Rights has been paid for by heros in uniform and shall not be diluted by misguided governmental social experiments. We owe this to our children, anything less is cowardice. USAF FAC, 5th Spl Forces, Vietnam Vet '69-'73.

March 16, 2017, 08:17 AM	#17
Onward Allusion Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2009 Location: Back in a Non-Free State Posts: 3,133	For anything beyond a Gen 2, the only reason I would have a 40S&W aftermarket barrel for a Glock 22 is if I reloaded hardcast. As for a recoil spring upgrade, I swapped a heavier one on a capture steel guide rod to lighten recoil. Also swapped the striker spring for a heavier one to ensure ignition. Swapped out mag springs too for +10%. This is a bedside gun fitted with NS and a green CT. As close to 100% as possible - no gun is infallible, IMO. __________________ Simple as ABC . . . Always Be Carrying

March 16, 2017, 10:10 AM	#18
Deaf Smith Senior Member Join Date: October 31, 2000 Location: Texican! Posts: 4,453	Well that's the other thing... 135s, 155s, 165s, 180s... decisions decisions. See for my Glock 31/32 .357 Sig it's easy.. 125s is about it. And my Glock 26/43 125s are fine with me to. But the .40? I see the: 135 gr Federal Premium JHP Reduced Recoil 1,190 ft/s 155 gr Guardian Gold JHP 1,205 ft/s 165 gr Remington Golden Saber 1,150 ft/s 180 gr Magtech FMJ-FP 1,050 ft/s 200 gr Doubletap FMJ-FP 1,050 ft/s (I dunno about this) I basically want .357 magnum power from a 4 inch revolver as my standard. That is like 125gr at 1400 or 158 at 125. Same time I want good accuracy and excellent reliability (with reliability being number one in any load selection.) It does not have to be fancy bouquet loads. Now this list looks interesting! http://www.ballistics101.com/40_caliber_sw.php My research along with my fellow posters comments are welcome! Oh, and why all this when I have a bunch of Glocks/Sigs/Colts/S&Ws/ in 9mm/.357 Sig/.45... Cause besides a carry gun, this summer, I'm going down (or up really) lots of Texas rivers via kayak! Gonna be a fun summer and I can't carry a bunch of guns. Just the Glock 22 (I have it now) and maybe a J .38 full of snake shot. No long guns either. Yes I have a great S&W .44 magnum but it's two legged critters that will be the most dangerous and mostly encountered. Hence the Glock. Thanks, Deaf __________________ “To you who call yourselves ‘men of peace,’ I say, you are not safe without men of action by your side” Thucydides

March 16, 2017, 12:11 PM	#19
rebs Senior Member Join Date: January 10, 2012 Posts: 3,881	what about a Glock 21 45 acp, after market barrel or keep the stock one that came in the gun ?

March 16, 2017, 08:44 PM	#21
P-35HP Member Join Date: March 31, 2008 Location: NH Posts: 83	rodfac, just sent PM. Best P-35HP

March 16, 2017, 09:27 PM	#22
john in jax Senior Member Join Date: August 11, 2005 Posts: 1,177	If it makes any difference I have a Lone Wolf ported stainless bbl in 45acp for my G30 that has been 100% reliable over the years. Based on my experience with that bbl and a bunch of reviews I recently went with the Lone Wolf .40S&W conversion bbl for my G29. __________________ America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards. Claire Wolfe

March 16, 2017, 09:40 PM	#23
j102 Member Join Date: April 22, 2015 Posts: 64	For a Glock 22... Storm Lake barrel or other .40 after market barrel? OP, Like most people have mentioned, you should not worry about anything with the Glock barrel. The factory recoil spring is super strong and the most reliable you can find for it. No need to change it. I have seen people changing it and having performance issues. As far as a load for two legged critters, you don't need to go the extra mile, a good factory 155gr, 165gr or 180gr would do well. I prefer 165gr. Your kayak plans sounds like fun. I hope you have a great time!