Quiz: Name that K frame

Carmady · October 27, 2020, 07:48 PM

Just for fun, check out the pics and name that K frame.

Nathan · October 27, 2020, 08:08 PM

17 or 14

I’m not sure, but it is a 3T gun!

dgludwig · October 27, 2020, 08:29 PM

Combat Magnum (Model 19) or Combat Masterpiece (Model 15)??

jrothWA · October 27, 2020, 09:06 PM

Either a M15 ot M15-1, with a 4-onch barrel sseeing that the holster is short??

lee n. field · October 27, 2020, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jrothWA

Either a M15 ot M15-1, with a 4-onch barrel sseeing that the holster is short??

a 4" gun is going to be longer than that. they're pretty big.

BillM · October 27, 2020, 11:48 PM

2 1/2" or 3" Model 19-2

**44 AMP** · October 28, 2020, 02:32 AM

S&W Target Hammer and trigger. Adjustable sights. Target Stocks. Blued.
That eliminates fixed sight and stainless steel models but nothing else.

Might even have the barrel extending past the end of the holster. Kind of looks like it does....

No guess. Not enough visible to pin it down to just one of the several things it might be.

Nathan · October 28, 2020, 04:54 AM

To add, I thought I saw it sticking out the end of the holster.

I think we need another clue. Did 19’s come 3T?

**Mike Irwin** · October 28, 2020, 06:10 AM

Fred.

Its name is Fred.

jetinteriorguy · October 28, 2020, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike Irwin

Fred.

Its name is Fred.

This sounds about right.

Carmady · October 28, 2020, 09:07 AM

I didn't notice the barrel sticking out. That helps solve the mystery. I was thinking it had to be a snub, but it isn't.

I was focused on the lack of a hammer nose (hammer mounted firing pin) which makes it a rim fire. The only RF K frames I could find were Models 17 and 48, but according to wiki neither of those ever came with barrels less than 4"

So it's probably a Model 17 or 48 named Fred with a barrel at least 4" long.

Here's the ebay listing for the holster. The 32 on the back of the holster means K frame with a 2" barrel, but that model will cover an entire 3" barrel.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/SMITH-WESSO...53.m1438.l2649

T. O'Heir · October 28, 2020, 12:55 PM

A 'K' frame is a 'K' frame. The difference between a 2 or 3 inch and a 4" M19 is the grip frame.

Carmady · October 28, 2020, 05:52 PM

"The difference between a 2 or 3 inch and a 4" M19 is the grip frame."

Huh? Pretty sure I've seen square butt K frame snubs, if that's what you're talking about. And sometime around 1996 S&W made the 4" K's in RB.

**Mike Irwin** · October 29, 2020, 05:57 AM

Yes, S&W made square butt snubs.

This is my Model 12 snub with a square butt.

Smith also offered some models with 4" barrels and round butts, including the Model 12.

natman · October 29, 2020, 10:39 AM

I'm going to guess 14 based on the target goodies. There were a few 4" 14s made. If not a 15 or 19 with target options. A view of the other side of the trigger would help because the 14's trigger overtravel stop would be visible. Or not.

105kw · October 29, 2020, 07:23 PM

Model 18 or 48. 4 inch?
.22 or .22mag.

10-96 · October 29, 2020, 08:24 PM

Heck, it could probably even be the Model 53(?) in .22 jet?

Carmady, Why would a feller want to tease us with a Guess The Revolver game when you don't know either? Hoping somebody will show up and tell us who's right is where the fun is! Haha

**44 AMP** · October 29, 2020, 11:28 PM

wait.what? its NOT your gun?? You don't know what it is, either??

Bad shooter! No bullseye! boo! hiss!! Shame on you!!!

You went about the wrong way. If you invite us to play "guess this gun" you have to know what the right answer is.

Now, if you don't know what it is, you say "Help me figure out what this is..."

might as well ask us what he has in his nasssty little pocketesses, my precious!

**Mike Irwin** · October 30, 2020, 06:01 AM

"Heck, it could probably even be the Model 53(?) in .22 jet?"

No.

The Model 53 has a very distinct hammer.

The 53 hammer has what appears to be the hollow rivet hole typical of centerfire S&Ws of this period, but it also has separate piece on the rear top of the hammer that is the selector for center/rimfire.

You can see that in these pictures:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Smith-Wesso...-/184029725073

Carmady · October 30, 2020, 11:46 AM

I don't know what it is, but whatever it is it's in a holster that's too short.

aarondhgraham · October 30, 2020, 12:02 PM

My WAG (wild arsed guess) is a Model 19.

Aarond

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ghbucky · October 30, 2020, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Fred.

Its name is Fred.

I think Harry has a better ring to it

**44 AMP** · October 30, 2020, 01:15 PM

Its a Fred. Harry is an N frame!

MP-5 · November 3, 2020, 06:16 AM

2” model 15!

ballardw · November 3, 2020, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 44 AMP

Its a Fred. Harry is an N frame!

So would that make J-Frames Judy?

October 27, 2020, 08:29 PM	#3
dgludwig Senior Member Join Date: February 12, 2005 Location: North central Ohio Posts: 7,486	Combat Magnum (Model 19) or Combat Masterpiece (Model 15)?? __________________ ONLY AN ARMED PEOPLE CAN BE TRULY FREE ; ONLY AN UNARMED PEOPLE CAN EVER BE ENSLAVED ...Aristotle NRA Benefactor Life Member

October 28, 2020, 02:32 AM	#7
44 AMP Staff Join Date: March 11, 2006 Location: Upper US Posts: 28,833	S&W Target Hammer and trigger. Adjustable sights. Target Stocks. Blued. That eliminates fixed sight and stainless steel models but nothing else. Might even have the barrel extending past the end of the holster. Kind of looks like it does.... No guess. Not enough visible to pin it down to just one of the several things it might be. __________________ All else being equal (and it almost never is) bigger bullets tend to work better.

October 28, 2020, 06:10 AM	#9
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,389	Fred. Its name is Fred. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

October 28, 2020, 12:55 PM	#12
T. O'Heir Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 12,453	A 'K' frame is a 'K' frame. The difference between a 2 or 3 inch and a 4" M19 is the grip frame. __________________ Spelling and grammar count!

October 29, 2020, 05:57 AM	#14
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,389	Yes, S&W made square butt snubs. This is my Model 12 snub with a square butt. Smith also offered some models with 4" barrels and round butts, including the Model 12. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

October 27, 2020, 08:08 PM	#2
Nathan Senior Member Join Date: July 1, 2001 Posts: 6,331	17 or 14 I’m not sure, but it is a 3T gun!

October 27, 2020, 09:06 PM	#4
jrothWA Senior Member Join Date: November 11, 2006 Posts: 2,519	Either a M15 ot M15-1, with a 4-onch barrel sseeing that the holster is short??

October 27, 2020, 11:48 PM	#6
BillM Senior Member Join Date: January 20, 2009 Location: Amity Oregon Posts: 791	2 1/2" or 3" Model 19-2

October 28, 2020, 04:54 AM	#8
Nathan Senior Member Join Date: July 1, 2001 Posts: 6,331	To add, I thought I saw it sticking out the end of the holster. I think we need another clue. Did 19’s come 3T?

October 28, 2020, 09:07 AM	#11
Carmady Senior Member Join Date: February 26, 2013 Location: on the lam Posts: 1,735	I didn't notice the barrel sticking out. That helps solve the mystery. I was thinking it had to be a snub, but it isn't. I was focused on the lack of a hammer nose (hammer mounted firing pin) which makes it a rim fire. The only RF K frames I could find were Models 17 and 48, but according to wiki neither of those ever came with barrels less than 4" So it's probably a Model 17 or 48 named Fred with a barrel at least 4" long. Here's the ebay listing for the holster. The 32 on the back of the holster means K frame with a 2" barrel, but that model will cover an entire 3" barrel. https://www.ebay.com/itm/SMITH-WESSO...53.m1438.l2649

October 28, 2020, 05:52 PM	#13
Carmady Senior Member Join Date: February 26, 2013 Location: on the lam Posts: 1,735	"The difference between a 2 or 3 inch and a 4" M19 is the grip frame." Huh? Pretty sure I've seen square butt K frame snubs, if that's what you're talking about. And sometime around 1996 S&W made the 4" K's in RB.

October 29, 2020, 10:39 AM	#15
natman Senior Member Join Date: June 24, 2008 Posts: 2,607	I'm going to guess 14 based on the target goodies. There were a few 4" 14s made. If not a 15 or 19 with target options. A view of the other side of the trigger would help because the 14's trigger overtravel stop would be visible. Or not. __________________ Time Travelers' Wisdom: Never Do Yesterday What Should Be Done Tomorrow. If At Last You Do Succeed, Never Try Again.

October 29, 2020, 07:23 PM	#16
105kw Senior Member Join Date: June 30, 2017 Location: Columbia Basin Washington Posts: 414	Model 18 or 48. 4 inch? .22 or .22mag.

October 29, 2020, 08:24 PM	#17
10-96 Senior Member Join Date: October 19, 2005 Location: Tx Panhandle Territory Posts: 4,159	Heck, it could probably even be the Model 53(?) in .22 jet? Carmady, Why would a feller want to tease us with a Guess The Revolver game when you don't know either? Hoping somebody will show up and tell us who's right is where the fun is! Haha __________________ Rednecks... Keeping the woods critter-free since March 2, 1836. (TX Independence Day) I suspect a thing or two... because I've seen a thing or two.

October 29, 2020, 11:28 PM	#18
44 AMP Staff Join Date: March 11, 2006 Location: Upper US Posts: 28,833	wait.what? its NOT your gun?? You don't know what it is, either?? Bad shooter! No bullseye! boo! hiss!! Shame on you!!! You went about the wrong way. If you invite us to play "guess this gun" you have to know what the right answer is. Now, if you don't know what it is, you say "Help me figure out what this is..." might as well ask us what he has in his nasssty little pocketesses, my precious! __________________ All else being equal (and it almost never is) bigger bullets tend to work better.

October 30, 2020, 06:01 AM	#19
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,389	"Heck, it could probably even be the Model 53(?) in .22 jet?" No. The Model 53 has a very distinct hammer. The 53 hammer has what appears to be the hollow rivet hole typical of centerfire S&Ws of this period, but it also has separate piece on the rear top of the hammer that is the selector for center/rimfire. You can see that in these pictures: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Smith-Wesso...-/184029725073 __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

October 30, 2020, 11:46 AM	#20
Carmady Senior Member Join Date: February 26, 2013 Location: on the lam Posts: 1,735	I don't know what it is, but whatever it is it's in a holster that's too short.

October 30, 2020, 12:02 PM	#21
aarondhgraham Senior Member Join Date: December 1, 2009 Location: Stillwater, OKlahoma Posts: 8,638	My WAG (wild arsed guess) is a Model 19. Aarond . __________________ Never ever give an enemy the advantage of a verbal threat. Caje: The coward dies a thousand times, the brave only once. Kirby: That's about all it takes, ain't it? Aarond is good,,, Aarond is wise,,, Always trust Aarond! (most of the time)

October 30, 2020, 01:15 PM	#23
44 AMP Staff Join Date: March 11, 2006 Location: Upper US Posts: 28,833	Its a Fred. Harry is an N frame! __________________ All else being equal (and it almost never is) bigger bullets tend to work better.

November 3, 2020, 06:16 AM	#24
MP-5 Senior Member Join Date: October 13, 2000 Posts: 208	2” model 15!