New Sig P365 SAS

Mackie244Bud · September 7, 2019, 10:36 PM

FYI: Sig is releasing a new P365 SAS (Sig Anti Snag)

Check it out here: Watch the video

https://www.sigsauer.com/store/p365-sas.html

It has the Meprolight Flush-Mounted FT Bullseye Fiber-Tritium Night Sight
No front sight and Ported.

https://www.meprolight.com/product/s...eye-sig-sauer/

Looks like a nice addition to the P365 Platform!

sparkyv · September 8, 2019, 08:35 AM

I've never had a snagging problem with my original/ standard P365. I'd like to see up close and personal how those sights work, however.

TunnelRat · September 8, 2019, 08:44 AM

Same as above, I've never had an issue with the sights on my XL snagging. It's an interesting concept I suppose.

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Auto5 · September 8, 2019, 08:56 AM

Nice enough, but seems like an ingenious solution to a non existent problem.

wild cat mccane · September 8, 2019, 09:52 AM

My P938 SAS is great because it melted the square sides of the P938. Well worth it.

On this P365 SAS, does nothing to the already good shape of the slide but then it ports the small barrel....bye power.

If all it does is eliminate the sights, you could just rasp or get smaller sights.

Totally not worth it.

smee78 · September 8, 2019, 01:19 PM

No thanks, its like the Colt without sights, just the gutter on the slide.

HarryB · September 8, 2019, 01:38 PM

I find the sights on my P365 outstanding as is. I think the sights on the SAS might be great on a J frame though.

rodfac · September 9, 2019, 05:10 PM

Quote:

I've never had a snagging problem with my original/ standard P365. I'd like to see up close and personal how those sights work, however.

Well said, Sparky, I'll 2nd your statement. Rod

Bart Noir · September 9, 2019, 06:08 PM

The SIG site (yes, pun!) says: "the user can now obtain a crystal clear high-visibility bullseye sight picture at real-word engagement distances faster than ever before"

As others have said, I do wonder how good that works, and what they really mean for actual shooters. Getting reasonable groups at 10 yards but not at 20 yards might not be acceptable.

I will make it a point to check that out in a store, and if I am really lucky maybe I will find one to rent someday.

Bart Noir

Carl the Floor Walker · September 9, 2019, 06:14 PM

Big improvement. One of the things I did not like about the Original was the bulky take down lever and slide lock. And for some when testing was problematic. These guns are meant for quick drawing. Glad to see Sig step up to the plate. Bravo to them.

That sight system looks so dang interesting. Hope they do this for the XL.

TunnelRat · September 9, 2019, 07:47 PM

I don't find the slide lock lever or takedown lever that bulky, but that's me.

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Carl the Floor Walker · September 9, 2019, 08:58 PM

I like the sleeker design. And again, snag free is IMO important. I will not be closed minded like some and make judgements on the sights and the Ported Receiver until I get a chance to actually shoot one. The Sig shot great but was a little snappy, maybe the Porting will actually make for a better shooter? This is not determined yet. Obviously it would seem Sig thinks so.
Regular sights might prove better for fast point and shoot skills, but again, will have to try it out.
I will be looking forward to the reviews of the gun.

TunnelRat · September 9, 2019, 09:04 PM

I certainly wouldn't want a design that snags. I haven't found the original design to be one that snags. If people want to go further more power to them.

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Carl the Floor Walker · September 9, 2019, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TunnelRat

I certainly wouldn't want a design that snags. I haven't found the original design to be one that snags. If people want to go further more power to them.

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Either way, it will give folks a option.

TunnelRat · September 9, 2019, 09:20 PM

I don't disagree. You seem to be commenting as if I'm opposing this thing. I'm really not.

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wild cat mccane · September 10, 2019, 07:33 AM

So I haven't taken my P365's firing control unit out, but I'm imagining you could change the levers to this take down and slide lock?

If not, all it costs to get these rather smooth levers removed is the stabilizing front sight all handguns/shotguns/rifles benefit from.

It's hard to imagine how this SAS model controls for front lift other than you see the front/top of the slide indicating you're too high...

Carl the Floor Walker · September 10, 2019, 09:10 AM

A lot of interesting questions being asked. Muzzle Flash, recoil, sights and on and on. Very interested in seeing the reviews come in and hopefully actually shooting one. Also wondering what the cost will be.

TrueBlue711 · September 10, 2019, 09:36 AM

Very cool! The P365 was next on my list to buy, but now I'll wait a lil longer for this version to come into circulation.

davidsog · September 10, 2019, 09:51 AM

I have never had an issue with snagging with my P365. This looks like almost a step backwards. The sight looks like an easier to acquire guttersnipe which lacks the ability for precision aiming.

The ports will be nice especially for shooters with weak recoil management skills but I am not sure the recessed slide release and lock will be an ergonomic improvement.

Carl the Floor Walker · September 10, 2019, 10:40 AM

To be honest, I was not a Big fan of the 365 when I had it at the range. But this new model really has my attention.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZejFxSZxQio

https://gununiversity.com/sig-p365-sas-review/

OhioGuy · September 10, 2019, 10:43 AM

Doesn't a ported barrel produce lower muzzle velocities, something you wouldn't generally want from a 3" Barrell whose velocities are already on the low end? Or does it really not make much of a practical difference?

I suppose a standard barrell could be swapped into this slide, so the slide ports just look sporty but don't serve a purpose.

Looking forward to reviews of the new model! If this FT sight can approximate the simplicity of a red dot, but without the bulk, it really would be a truly awesome option for CCW.

Carl the Floor Walker · September 10, 2019, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OhioGuy

Doesn't a ported barrel produce lower muzzle velocities, something you wouldn't generally want from a 3" Barrell whose velocities are already on the low end? Or does it really not make much of a practical difference?

I suppose a standard barrell could be swapped into this slide, so the slide ports just look sporty but don't serve a purpose.

Looking forward to reviews of the new model! If this FT sight can approximate the simplicity of a red dot, but without the bulk, it really would be a truly awesome option for CCW.

Agree, I never liked or wanted a Red Dot on a Carry gun. I think this new sight is awesome so far. And of course there will be a learning curve. I doubt here will be any sigificant loss of velocities. Just read where they tested a M&P short barrel and only loss 25FPS.

OhioGuy · September 10, 2019, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carl the Floor Walker

Agree, I never liked or wanted a Red Dot on a Carry gun. I think this new sight is awesome so far. And of course there will be a learning curve. I doubt here will be any sigificant loss of velocities. Just read where they tested a M&P short barrel and only loss 25FPS.

I have a micro red dot on my Walther PPS and like it, but the window is always getting covered in lint, moisture from sweat, etc and it gets grungy. I love the functionality but not the implementation. Again if this new type of sight gets me the benefits without the drawbacks, then I'll be hooked for sure.

Does anyone know whether you can use this sight while looking at the target, both eyes open? I think the biggest advantage of the red dot by far is the ability to focus your eyes naturally on the target without parallax problems.

TunnelRat · September 10, 2019, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OhioGuy

I have a micro red dot on my Walther PPS and like it, but the window is always getting covered in lint, moisture from sweat, etc and it gets grungy. I love the functionality but not the implementation. Again if this new type of sight gets me the benefits without the drawbacks, then I'll be hooked for sure.

Does anyone know whether you can use this sight while looking at the target, both eyes open? I think the biggest advantage of the red dot by far is the ability to focus your eyes naturally on the target without parallax problems.

Do you not use both eyes open when using iron sights?

I don't see how this will allow the same functionality of a red dot. To me the advantage of the red dot is one focus plane and the ability to superimpose the dot on the target. Maybe I need to rewatch the video but I don't see how a guttersnipe sight allows that.

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OhioGuy · September 10, 2019, 11:40 AM

I've trained extensively to use both eyes with iron sights can have never achieved much success. Largely why I went to the red dot.

September 7, 2019, 10:36 PM	#1
Mackie244Bud Senior Member Join Date: October 31, 2017 Location: South Florida Posts: 252	New Sig P365 SAS FYI: Sig is releasing a new P365 SAS (Sig Anti Snag) Check it out here: Watch the video https://www.sigsauer.com/store/p365-sas.html It has the Meprolight Flush-Mounted FT Bullseye Fiber-Tritium Night Sight No front sight and Ported. https://www.meprolight.com/product/s...eye-sig-sauer/ Looks like a nice addition to the P365 Platform!

September 8, 2019, 08:35 AM	#2
sparkyv Senior Member Join Date: May 2, 2015 Location: Deepinnaheartta,Texas Posts: 318	I've never had a snagging problem with my original/ standard P365. I'd like to see up close and personal how those sights work, however. __________________ μολὼν λαβέ NRA Life Member

September 8, 2019, 08:56 AM	#4
Auto5 Senior Member Join Date: March 18, 2013 Location: Chicago suburbs Posts: 662	Nice enough, but seems like an ingenious solution to a non existent problem. __________________ At the young age of five, a bear told me that I was the only person who could prevent forest fires. Why I was chosen, I'll never know.

September 8, 2019, 01:19 PM	#6
smee78 Senior Member Join Date: July 14, 2008 Location: South Carolina Posts: 2,918	No thanks, its like the Colt without sights, just the gutter on the slide. __________________ We know exactly where one cow with Mad-cow-disease is located, among the millions and millions of cows in America, but we haven't got a clue where thousands of illegal immigrants and terrorists are

September 9, 2019, 06:08 PM	#9
Bart Noir Senior Member Join Date: August 5, 2000 Location: Puget Sound, USA Posts: 2,215	The SIG site (yes, pun!) says: "the user can now obtain a crystal clear high-visibility bullseye sight picture at real-word engagement distances faster than ever before" As others have said, I do wonder how good that works, and what they really mean for actual shooters. Getting reasonable groups at 10 yards but not at 20 yards might not be acceptable. I will make it a point to check that out in a store, and if I am really lucky maybe I will find one to rent someday. Bart Noir __________________ Be of good cheer and mindful of your gun muzzle!

September 8, 2019, 08:44 AM	#3
TunnelRat Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2011 Posts: 12,212	Same as above, I've never had an issue with the sights on my XL snagging. It's an interesting concept I suppose. Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk

September 8, 2019, 09:52 AM	#5
wild cat mccane Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2011 Posts: 3,627	My P938 SAS is great because it melted the square sides of the P938. Well worth it. On this P365 SAS, does nothing to the already good shape of the slide but then it ports the small barrel....bye power. If all it does is eliminate the sights, you could just rasp or get smaller sights. Totally not worth it.

September 8, 2019, 01:38 PM	#7
HarryB Senior Member Join Date: April 4, 1999 Location: Mesa Arizona Posts: 330	I find the sights on my P365 outstanding as is. I think the sights on the SAS might be great on a J frame though.

September 9, 2019, 06:14 PM	#10
Carl the Floor Walker member Join Date: June 3, 2017 Location: South Posts: 1,422	Big improvement. One of the things I did not like about the Original was the bulky take down lever and slide lock. And for some when testing was problematic. These guns are meant for quick drawing. Glad to see Sig step up to the plate. Bravo to them. That sight system looks so dang interesting. Hope they do this for the XL. Last edited by Carl the Floor Walker; September 9, 2019 at 06:41 PM.

September 9, 2019, 07:47 PM	#11
TunnelRat Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2011 Posts: 12,212	I don't find the slide lock lever or takedown lever that bulky, but that's me. Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk

September 9, 2019, 08:58 PM	#12
Carl the Floor Walker member Join Date: June 3, 2017 Location: South Posts: 1,422	I like the sleeker design. And again, snag free is IMO important. I will not be closed minded like some and make judgements on the sights and the Ported Receiver until I get a chance to actually shoot one. The Sig shot great but was a little snappy, maybe the Porting will actually make for a better shooter? This is not determined yet. Obviously it would seem Sig thinks so. Regular sights might prove better for fast point and shoot skills, but again, will have to try it out. I will be looking forward to the reviews of the gun.

September 9, 2019, 09:04 PM	#13
TunnelRat Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2011 Posts: 12,212	I certainly wouldn't want a design that snags. I haven't found the original design to be one that snags. If people want to go further more power to them. Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk

September 9, 2019, 09:20 PM	#15
TunnelRat Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2011 Posts: 12,212	I don't disagree. You seem to be commenting as if I'm opposing this thing. I'm really not. Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk

September 10, 2019, 07:33 AM	#16
wild cat mccane Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2011 Posts: 3,627	So I haven't taken my P365's firing control unit out, but I'm imagining you could change the levers to this take down and slide lock? If not, all it costs to get these rather smooth levers removed is the stabilizing front sight all handguns/shotguns/rifles benefit from. It's hard to imagine how this SAS model controls for front lift other than you see the front/top of the slide indicating you're too high...

September 10, 2019, 09:10 AM	#17
Carl the Floor Walker member Join Date: June 3, 2017 Location: South Posts: 1,422	A lot of interesting questions being asked. Muzzle Flash, recoil, sights and on and on. Very interested in seeing the reviews come in and hopefully actually shooting one. Also wondering what the cost will be.

September 10, 2019, 09:36 AM	#18
TrueBlue711 Senior Member Join Date: March 16, 2011 Posts: 489	Very cool! The P365 was next on my list to buy, but now I'll wait a lil longer for this version to come into circulation.

September 10, 2019, 09:51 AM	#19
davidsog Senior Member Join Date: January 13, 2018 Posts: 1,326	I have never had an issue with snagging with my P365. This looks like almost a step backwards. The sight looks like an easier to acquire guttersnipe which lacks the ability for precision aiming. The ports will be nice especially for shooters with weak recoil management skills but I am not sure the recessed slide release and lock will be an ergonomic improvement.

September 10, 2019, 10:40 AM	#20
Carl the Floor Walker member Join Date: June 3, 2017 Location: South Posts: 1,422	To be honest, I was not a Big fan of the 365 when I had it at the range. But this new model really has my attention. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZejFxSZxQio https://gununiversity.com/sig-p365-sas-review/ Last edited by Carl the Floor Walker; September 10, 2019 at 10:48 AM.

September 10, 2019, 10:43 AM	#21
OhioGuy Senior Member Join Date: August 11, 2016 Posts: 1,089	Doesn't a ported barrel produce lower muzzle velocities, something you wouldn't generally want from a 3" Barrell whose velocities are already on the low end? Or does it really not make much of a practical difference? I suppose a standard barrell could be swapped into this slide, so the slide ports just look sporty but don't serve a purpose. Looking forward to reviews of the new model! If this FT sight can approximate the simplicity of a red dot, but without the bulk, it really would be a truly awesome option for CCW.

September 10, 2019, 11:40 AM	#25
OhioGuy Senior Member Join Date: August 11, 2016 Posts: 1,089	I've trained extensively to use both eyes with iron sights can have never achieved much success. Largely why I went to the red dot.