Howa - 6.5 creedmoor usa flag

FloridaGuy · June 3, 2018, 07:59 PM

Just picked one of these up today. The specs are below.

FEATURES
6.5 Creedmoor
24" Heavy Barrel
Threaded Barrel
All Cerakoted Chassis System
Hogue Finger Groove Pistol Grip
LUTH-AR MBA-4 Fully Adjustable Stock
10 Round Detachable Magazine
Nikko Stirling Diamond 30mm 4-16x50 Long Range Scope
Midwest Industries - 3 Chamber Muzzle Brake
6" - 9" Adjustable Bipod
PACKAGE INCLUDES:
Frog Lube - Lubricant Kit
Hard Case

This is my first Howa rifle. Hope I just didn’t wast my money. What does everyone think about this package?

NHSHOOTER · June 3, 2018, 08:20 PM

I guess it would depend on how it shoots. What kind of money? IMHO, would prefer all black..

std7mag · June 3, 2018, 08:24 PM

Well, since you have a detachable mag, the 6.5 Manbun makes sense.

The Nikko Stirling is ok if your idea of long range is 200 yards.
Don't know what you paid for it, but if YOU think you got a decent deal and are happy with it, that's all that matters.

FloridaGuy · June 3, 2018, 08:53 PM

NHSOOTER - They guarantee sub MOA at 100 yards right out of the box. I payed $1300 which I think was a good deal. The reason I purchased it was because of the Flag stock. It will fit in with my AR’s because they are red, blue and burnt bronze.

Don Fischer · June 3, 2018, 09:02 PM

I wish you hadn't asked. Got to be about the ugliest rifle I have ever seen! :-(

dakota.potts · June 4, 2018, 12:21 AM

Will you be taking it out to a local precision rifle match? They have them in Myakka, Okeechobee, and Immokalee

Mr.RevolverGuy · June 4, 2018, 05:23 AM

Gosh I so wish I was back in Florida to attend matches safe and fun exactly the way it is supposed to be.

The Howa HCR which this is with a different color scheme is better than the Ruger Precision Rifle (let me go duck and hide for saying that)

. Howa makes a fine rifle and in my neck of the woods the HCR is cheaper than the precision. I have found the HCR to be less picky about the ammo it shoots compared to the Ruger.

std7mag · June 4, 2018, 05:24 AM

$1,300 !!!
I could do ALOT to a $400 rifle that already shoots 3/4 MOA for that kinda coin!!

hooligan1 · June 4, 2018, 06:13 AM

Std7mag doesn't care for the 6.5 Creedmoor, but Everytime someone post a thread about one, you can rely on a Manbun comment from it.
OP, I think the Howa's is a solid platform for customs and this one is pretty cool, however I would change the glass out to reap all the distance this rifle was built for.

Tallest · June 4, 2018, 12:17 PM

I love the patriotism behind a set-up like that... I really do! But as Americans, we've completely forgotten flag etiquette!

With that said...

From what I've heard about Howa, that should be a nice shooter. Enjoy!

precision_shooter · June 4, 2018, 02:30 PM

It’s just OK, imho. I wouldn’t look to sell my Tikka T3x CTR to get one. It’s like anything else, companies see a niche in the market for a particular style of rifle (long range/precision) and everyone is offering a rifle in that flavor. Tactical stocks or full chassis, bigger detachable mags, muzzle brake to tame recoil from a round that already recoils less than a .308, then slap on the cheapest “long range” scope they can and call it a “package”. The scope on my CTR cost almost as much as the rifle and some would still say it’s not enough. I think it will shoot fine, but you’ll want to upgrade scope fairly soon.

FrankenMauser · June 4, 2018, 03:44 PM

I wouldn't pay that much, but I do like it.

And, as has been said: If you are willing to pay the price, then it isn't too much.

Plan to ditch that scope, though. It probably won't be satisfactory.

Quote:

I love the patriotism behind a set-up like that... I really do! But as Americans, we've completely forgotten flag etiquette!

I find myself torn when it comes to proper flag etiquette.
I hate most articles of clothing that use the flag in an inappropriate manner, as well as blankets, pillows, doors, yard art, and more...
But I really don't mind it when done on a rifle or (tastefully) on a vehicle.

Flag etiquette matters to me. ...But I sometimes want to bend the rules for certain applications that I like.

...Coming from a man that was kicking himself this morning when he realized he left his flag out over night. (I've been sick, and my flag is illuminated at night; but still...)

disseminator · June 4, 2018, 03:48 PM

I have never heard about that scope, but 1300 seems ok for all that stuff.

Enjoy your new rifle.

FloridaGuy · June 4, 2018, 08:03 PM

I never heard of the scope before. We will see how it shoots. The longest I will be able to shoot would be 600 yards. That would only happen a couple times a year because it involves a 2 hour dive. Mostly it will be shot at 100 - 200 yards.

I was told by several gun shops today that the Nikko Sterling Scopes are very popular in Europe and are on par with Nikon scopes here in the states. I may have to compare the 2 because I have a similar Nikon scope.

Tallest · June 5, 2018, 08:01 AM

FrankenMauser -

I hear what you're saying, I'm definitely not above reproach in this, but I've become more aware, and I hope to do better in the future. I recently attended a funeral with Military rights for an old friend of mine. The flag ceremony was conducted by 6 veterans in their 70's and 80's, and their careful, deliberate and profound respect for the flag struck a chord.

Making it too commonplace makes it familiar, and familiarity doesn't always make for long-term respect. But that is just my perspective, and I don't rush to condemn those whose perspective is different. On this matter at least...

Lest I digress too far from firearms, I do understand the sentiment behind a rifle with the American flag, makes perfect sense. But I'd rather shoot a plain synthetic or walnut stocked rifle at range flying the American flag against a clear blue sky! :-D

Scorch · June 5, 2018, 05:52 PM

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$1,300 !!!
I could do ALOT to a $400 rifle that already shoots 3/4 MOA for that kinda coin!!

Especially when you realize that the same barreled action/scope combo in a Hogue stock sells for $589!! A Nikko Stirling scope costs <$200 and Brownells is selling the barreled actions for <$300. So lemme see. Could I put a $700 chassis on a $300 barreled action and come in under $1300? Hmmmmmm . . .

Nathan · June 13, 2018, 06:24 PM

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I never heard of the scope before. We will see how it shoots. The longest I will be able to shoot would be 600 yards. That would only happen a couple times a year because it involves a 2 hour dive. Mostly it will be shot at 100 - 200 yards.

You might be better off with a Ruger American and a Nikon Black with good mount if that is your budget...

FloridaGuy · June 13, 2018, 07:51 PM

Nathan - I already have a RPR with a very good Vortex scope on it. The main reason I am buying this rifle is because I love the look and the use of the symbol of our great country. It may just go in the safe and never even be shot. I have several guns that I purchased because I like the look of them and most have not been shot.

June 3, 2018, 08:24 PM	#3
std7mag Senior Member Join Date: June 23, 2013 Location: Central Taxylvania.. Posts: 3,609	Well, since you have a detachable mag, the 6.5 Manbun makes sense. The Nikko Stirling is ok if your idea of long range is 200 yards. Don't know what you paid for it, but if YOU think you got a decent deal and are happy with it, that's all that matters. __________________ When our own government declares itself as "tyrannical", where does that leave us??!! "Januarary 6th insurrection". Funny, I didn't see a single piece of rope...

June 3, 2018, 08:53 PM	#4
FloridaGuy Senior Member Join Date: December 8, 2012 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 237	NHSOOTER - They guarantee sub MOA at 100 yards right out of the box. I payed $1300 which I think was a good deal. The reason I purchased it was because of the Flag stock. It will fit in with my AR’s because they are red, blue and burnt bronze. __________________ Μολὼν λαβέ Authorized Blackhound Optics Dealer www.blackhoundoptics.com/CWFT

June 4, 2018, 12:21 AM	#6
dakota.potts Senior Member Join Date: February 25, 2013 Location: Keystone Heights, Florida Posts: 3,084	Will you be taking it out to a local precision rifle match? They have them in Myakka, Okeechobee, and Immokalee __________________ Certified Gunsmith (On Hiatus) Certified Armorer - H&K and Glock Among Others You can find my writings at my website, pottsprecision.com.

June 4, 2018, 05:23 AM	#7
Mr.RevolverGuy Senior Member Join Date: February 24, 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 988	Gosh I so wish I was back in Florida to attend matches safe and fun exactly the way it is supposed to be. The Howa HCR which this is with a different color scheme is better than the Ruger Precision Rifle (let me go duck and hide for saying that) . Howa makes a fine rifle and in my neck of the woods the HCR is cheaper than the precision. I have found the HCR to be less picky about the ammo it shoots compared to the Ruger. __________________ Mr.Revolverguy http://www.dayattherange.com Firearms Reviewed and Reported On: An unbiased opinion with real world use.

June 4, 2018, 05:24 AM	#8
std7mag Senior Member Join Date: June 23, 2013 Location: Central Taxylvania.. Posts: 3,609	$1,300 !!! I could do ALOT to a $400 rifle that already shoots 3/4 MOA for that kinda coin!! __________________ When our own government declares itself as "tyrannical", where does that leave us??!! "Januarary 6th insurrection". Funny, I didn't see a single piece of rope...

June 3, 2018, 08:20 PM	#2
NHSHOOTER Senior Member Join Date: November 26, 2012 Location: Concord NH Posts: 1,002	I guess it would depend on how it shoots. What kind of money? IMHO, would prefer all black..

June 3, 2018, 09:02 PM	#5
Don Fischer Senior Member Join Date: March 2, 2017 Posts: 1,868	I wish you hadn't asked. Got to be about the ugliest rifle I have ever seen! :-(

June 4, 2018, 06:13 AM	#9
hooligan1 Senior Member Join Date: July 18, 2010 Location: Independence Missouri Posts: 4,585	Std7mag doesn't care for the 6.5 Creedmoor, but Everytime someone post a thread about one, you can rely on a Manbun comment from it. OP, I think the Howa's is a solid platform for customs and this one is pretty cool, however I would change the glass out to reap all the distance this rifle was built for. __________________ Keep your Axe sharp and your powder dry.

June 4, 2018, 12:17 PM	#10
Tallest Senior Member Join Date: January 23, 2016 Location: West of the Atlantic Posts: 418	I love the patriotism behind a set-up like that... I really do! But as Americans, we've completely forgotten flag etiquette! With that said... From what I've heard about Howa, that should be a nice shooter. Enjoy! __________________ Matthew "All men are ignorant. The topics of our ignorance may vary, but the nature of the world is that no man may know everything." ~ R Jordan

June 4, 2018, 02:30 PM	#11
precision_shooter Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: DFW, Texas Posts: 2,475	It’s just OK, imho. I wouldn’t look to sell my Tikka T3x CTR to get one. It’s like anything else, companies see a niche in the market for a particular style of rifle (long range/precision) and everyone is offering a rifle in that flavor. Tactical stocks or full chassis, bigger detachable mags, muzzle brake to tame recoil from a round that already recoils less than a .308, then slap on the cheapest “long range” scope they can and call it a “package”. The scope on my CTR cost almost as much as the rifle and some would still say it’s not enough. I think it will shoot fine, but you’ll want to upgrade scope fairly soon. __________________ "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." - Thomas Jefferson, 1776

June 4, 2018, 03:48 PM	#13
disseminator Senior Member Join Date: November 26, 2016 Location: Minnesota Posts: 960	I have never heard about that scope, but 1300 seems ok for all that stuff. Enjoy your new rifle.

June 4, 2018, 08:03 PM	#14
FloridaGuy Senior Member Join Date: December 8, 2012 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 237	I never heard of the scope before. We will see how it shoots. The longest I will be able to shoot would be 600 yards. That would only happen a couple times a year because it involves a 2 hour dive. Mostly it will be shot at 100 - 200 yards. I was told by several gun shops today that the Nikko Sterling Scopes are very popular in Europe and are on par with Nikon scopes here in the states. I may have to compare the 2 because I have a similar Nikon scope. __________________ Μολὼν λαβέ Authorized Blackhound Optics Dealer www.blackhoundoptics.com/CWFT

June 5, 2018, 08:01 AM	#15
Tallest Senior Member Join Date: January 23, 2016 Location: West of the Atlantic Posts: 418	FrankenMauser - I hear what you're saying, I'm definitely not above reproach in this, but I've become more aware, and I hope to do better in the future. I recently attended a funeral with Military rights for an old friend of mine. The flag ceremony was conducted by 6 veterans in their 70's and 80's, and their careful, deliberate and profound respect for the flag struck a chord. Making it too commonplace makes it familiar, and familiarity doesn't always make for long-term respect. But that is just my perspective, and I don't rush to condemn those whose perspective is different. On this matter at least... Lest I digress too far from firearms, I do understand the sentiment behind a rifle with the American flag, makes perfect sense. But I'd rather shoot a plain synthetic or walnut stocked rifle at range flying the American flag against a clear blue sky! :-D __________________ Matthew "All men are ignorant. The topics of our ignorance may vary, but the nature of the world is that no man may know everything." ~ R Jordan

June 13, 2018, 07:51 PM	#18
FloridaGuy Senior Member Join Date: December 8, 2012 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 237	Nathan - I already have a RPR with a very good Vortex scope on it. The main reason I am buying this rifle is because I love the look and the use of the symbol of our great country. It may just go in the safe and never even be shot. I have several guns that I purchased because I like the look of them and most have not been shot. __________________ Μολὼν λαβέ Authorized Blackhound Optics Dealer www.blackhoundoptics.com/CWFT