Advice on home gun

Cowtownlion · November 19, 2018, 09:48 PM

Hi all. Hoping to get some suggestions. I’m looking for a specific set of parameters for my home (nightstand) pistol. The one gun that meets all the requirements is the FNX-46 Tactical, however, the price after the RMR sight is a tough pill to swallow ($1,700). I had a chance to check out the 509 tactical, however, I really want SA/DA option. Can you guys help me choose a pistol that has:

RMR Mounts
Single/double action (decocker)
Threaded barrel (no, I won’t have a suppressor but I like the look)
Caliber doesn’t matter, dead is dead
Preferably a mag capacity of 14+

Any pistols you guys would recommend would be so appreciated.

Siggy-06 · November 19, 2018, 09:59 PM

A lot of current production pistols with the rmr cut slides are striker fired unfortunately. I believe Sig makes the 226/227 with a RMR slide, but other than the fn 45, nothing else comes to mind.

HighValleyRanch · November 19, 2018, 10:10 PM

You might consider that there are many places that will mill your slide for you, so you don't have to choose an out of the box gun with the slide already milled.

OhioGuy · November 19, 2018, 10:12 PM

My home defense and frequent carry is a CZ P-07 that was cut for the RMR by CZ Custom. Love it.

Wyosmith · November 19, 2018, 10:50 PM

For carry all day everywhere a handgun is what is needed.

For HOME defense, get a shotgun or a rifle.

Cowtownlion · November 19, 2018, 11:06 PM

Thanks for all the replies thus far everyone. 2 responses: I do have a shotgun at home as well, but I keep it in the closet and would like a nightstand gun. In regard to getting RMR sights cut out, I asked 2 gun shops and both said it could compromise the strength of the slide. It makes sense to me, but then again I’m not an expert. Is that just “monsters under the bed” talk, or is that a legitimate concern?

HighValleyRanch · November 19, 2018, 11:48 PM

https://gallowayprecision.com/search...keep_https=yes

**JohnKSa** · November 20, 2018, 12:49 AM

Quote:

...I asked 2 gun shops and both said it could compromise the strength of the slide.

This is code for" "We can't do that here." whether they mean it to be or not.

It does weaken the slide, but not in a way that is of any practical concern.

You just need to find a company that knows what they are doing. The best way is to get a couple of recommends for a company that has done the modification successfully for the gun you're interested in having cut.

Siggy-06 · November 20, 2018, 06:25 AM

Something like this might be a good alternative:
https://ustacticalsupply.com/sightmo...erettapx4.aspx

USNRet93 · November 20, 2018, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wyosmith

For carry all day everywhere a handgun is what is needed.

For HOME defense, get a shotgun or a rifle.

Agree..easy to hit someone, proper round won't go thru a wall, makes a lot of noise. Ooops, see above, you already have a shotgun..in the 'RTFP' category.

I have a night stand G19 with a light on it..

Tactical Jackalope · November 20, 2018, 02:18 PM

First off, I'd recommend a long gun for home defense over a handgun.

Second and more importantly to the topic, I have an FNX-45 Tactical in FDE with an optic and all that jazz on my nightstand. Sporting an FDE Surefire X300U-A. Yes, it is great and I do recommend one. But that price is something most people are deterred by.

HK USP 9, Expert, or Compact can be had with a threaded barrel.

I also have an MK25 with a threaded barrel and X300U-A. The P229 is good to go as well.

DA/SA is my favorite platform with striker-fired right behind it.

Check those out!

Cowtownlion · November 21, 2018, 11:38 AM

Thank you for the great leads. I Appreciate everyone’s feedback k.

bp22 · November 21, 2018, 12:07 PM

gotta say this not sure how much shooting you wanna do but I now keep the 300 dollar security9 bedside more then accurate shoots everything you put in it, not a single malfunction yet

LineStretcher · November 21, 2018, 12:08 PM

Your nightstand gun should have open sights and a high cap mag. I prefer a flash light also. The less stuff you have to find the better off you'll be. I just bought a Glock 45 9mm with a 17+1 capacity to replace my Kimber Custom II .45 ACP with the RMR and laser grip sight. It would do the job but target acquisition was slow with the RMR. I also have a semi auto shotgun nearby.

dontcatchmany · November 21, 2018, 12:18 PM

I have had an FNX 45 and FNX 40 and FNS 40 (my first striker pistol).

They each have approx. 2500 rds with out a failure.

The 45 is my bedside gun and he 40s are used in other areas on my property/vehicles. I have a 9mm and a 357 Sig barrel for the 40s and the magazines. All are more accurate than I and I totally enjoy shooting them.

I do trust them!

rt11002003 · November 21, 2018, 06:20 PM

A home defense pistol should be reliable and easy to use in the dark. Just pick it up and squeeze the trigger, no safeties, nor cocking. My house has a pair of .357 Mag revolvers lying around, one upstairs, the other down stairs.

FITASC · November 21, 2018, 07:15 PM

To address the long gun aspect, simply place it between your bed and nightstand so it remains fairly upright securely, yet is easy to get to. I leave mine with the hammer down on an empty chamber so it is a matter of rack and go

FairWarning · November 21, 2018, 07:22 PM

HK USP 45 is my home sidearm.

Although Daddy is my Mossy 500 12 GA.

cw308 · November 21, 2018, 07:29 PM

I have a S&W model 4566 built like a tank SA/ DA 45ACP

Bill Daniel · November 21, 2018, 10:40 PM

My home gun is a Glock 21 with a Crimson Trace light and laser in a bedside holster. The light is set on strobe to disorient the intruder the laser is for my 63 year old eyes. 13+1 rounds of Hornady Critical Defense 45 acp.
All the best,
Bill

cw308 · November 22, 2018, 08:53 AM

Any firearm with enough knock down power your comfortable with . 38spl to 45acp to 12 gauge.

ms6852 · November 22, 2018, 11:05 AM

My FNX works fine in the dark without an RMR sight. The nights sights are very bright and if they began to get dim recharge them by shining a flashlight to the sights just before going to bed or replace them. RMR sights are expensive for just an "in case" scenario that hopefully will never happen. Get the gun first and than save money for a few months and by the rmr sight. In the meantime the nights sights are excellent by themselves.

Nathan · November 22, 2018, 11:12 AM

What is your experience with these features? How did you get to these specs? Do you shot a gun similar now?

JDBerg · November 23, 2018, 07:50 AM

https://www.sigsauer.com/store/p226-...full-size.html

This Sig Sauer P226 Legion RX fits the bill except for the requirement for a threaded barrel which you can buy separately.

Personally I’d want to avoid a “gunsmith” who says that milling a slide for an RMR mount will compromise the strength of the slide, that is code phrase for run away from there in a hurry!

Cosmodragoon · November 24, 2018, 04:24 AM

Quote:

Something like this might be a good alternative:
https://ustacticalsupply.com/sightmo...erettapx4.aspx

I don't know about this particular product but if it works well, the PX4 wouldn't be a bad choice. I'm another DA/SA guy and I have experience with several choices in this style. The FNX series is good but the PX4 just seems like a nicer pistol overall. The fit and finish are excellent. The trigger is decent right out of the box. The ergonomics in general are good. The rotating barrel system handles recoil like a charm, making it a breeze in 9mm and probably the softest-shooting polymer-framed option in .40 S&W. My only complaint is those bat-wing safeties but Beretta makes a kit to replace them with flush-fitting decocking levers.

The barrel isn't threaded but since Cowtownlion said the interest was aesthetic, I wonder if the PX4's unique look is attractive enough?

November 19, 2018, 09:48 PM	#1
Cowtownlion Junior Member Join Date: November 19, 2018 Posts: 4	Advice on home gun Hi all. Hoping to get some suggestions. I’m looking for a specific set of parameters for my home (nightstand) pistol. The one gun that meets all the requirements is the FNX-46 Tactical, however, the price after the RMR sight is a tough pill to swallow ($1,700). I had a chance to check out the 509 tactical, however, I really want SA/DA option. Can you guys help me choose a pistol that has: RMR Mounts Single/double action (decocker) Threaded barrel (no, I won’t have a suppressor but I like the look) Caliber doesn’t matter, dead is dead Preferably a mag capacity of 14+ Any pistols you guys would recommend would be so appreciated.

November 19, 2018, 09:59 PM	#2
Siggy-06 Senior Member Join Date: September 2, 2014 Location: Florida Posts: 1,148	A lot of current production pistols with the rmr cut slides are striker fired unfortunately. I believe Sig makes the 226/227 with a RMR slide, but other than the fn 45, nothing else comes to mind. __________________ Flicks just like a lighter, just a different kind of fire.

November 19, 2018, 10:10 PM	#3
HighValleyRanch Senior Member Join Date: July 15, 2005 Posts: 4,066	You might consider that there are many places that will mill your slide for you, so you don't have to choose an out of the box gun with the slide already milled. __________________ From the sweet grass to the slaughter house; From birth until death; We travel between these two eternities........from 'Broken Trail"

November 19, 2018, 11:48 PM	#7
HighValleyRanch Senior Member Join Date: July 15, 2005 Posts: 4,066	https://gallowayprecision.com/search...keep_https=yes __________________ From the sweet grass to the slaughter house; From birth until death; We travel between these two eternities........from 'Broken Trail"

November 20, 2018, 06:25 AM	#9
Siggy-06 Senior Member Join Date: September 2, 2014 Location: Florida Posts: 1,148	Something like this might be a good alternative: https://ustacticalsupply.com/sightmo...erettapx4.aspx __________________ Flicks just like a lighter, just a different kind of fire.

November 19, 2018, 10:12 PM	#4
OhioGuy Senior Member Join Date: August 11, 2016 Posts: 1,089	My home defense and frequent carry is a CZ P-07 that was cut for the RMR by CZ Custom. Love it.

November 19, 2018, 10:50 PM	#5
Wyosmith Senior Member Join Date: December 29, 2010 Location: Shoshoni Wyoming Posts: 2,713	For carry all day everywhere a handgun is what is needed. For HOME defense, get a shotgun or a rifle.

November 19, 2018, 11:06 PM	#6
Cowtownlion Junior Member Join Date: November 19, 2018 Posts: 4	Thanks for all the replies thus far everyone. 2 responses: I do have a shotgun at home as well, but I keep it in the closet and would like a nightstand gun. In regard to getting RMR sights cut out, I asked 2 gun shops and both said it could compromise the strength of the slide. It makes sense to me, but then again I’m not an expert. Is that just “monsters under the bed” talk, or is that a legitimate concern?

November 20, 2018, 02:18 PM	#11
Tactical Jackalope Senior Member Join Date: December 5, 2010 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 6,429	First off, I'd recommend a long gun for home defense over a handgun. Second and more importantly to the topic, I have an FNX-45 Tactical in FDE with an optic and all that jazz on my nightstand. Sporting an FDE Surefire X300U-A. Yes, it is great and I do recommend one. But that price is something most people are deterred by. HK USP 9, Expert, or Compact can be had with a threaded barrel. I also have an MK25 with a threaded barrel and X300U-A. The P229 is good to go as well. DA/SA is my favorite platform with striker-fired right behind it. Check those out!

November 21, 2018, 11:38 AM	#12
Cowtownlion Junior Member Join Date: November 19, 2018 Posts: 4	Thank you for the great leads. I Appreciate everyone’s feedback k.

November 21, 2018, 12:07 PM	#13
bp22 Member Join Date: February 12, 2018 Posts: 36	gotta say this not sure how much shooting you wanna do but I now keep the 300 dollar security9 bedside more then accurate shoots everything you put in it, not a single malfunction yet

November 21, 2018, 12:08 PM	#14
LineStretcher Senior Member Join Date: June 14, 2018 Posts: 619	Your nightstand gun should have open sights and a high cap mag. I prefer a flash light also. The less stuff you have to find the better off you'll be. I just bought a Glock 45 9mm with a 17+1 capacity to replace my Kimber Custom II .45 ACP with the RMR and laser grip sight. It would do the job but target acquisition was slow with the RMR. I also have a semi auto shotgun nearby.

November 21, 2018, 12:18 PM	#15
dontcatchmany Senior Member Join Date: July 19, 2010 Posts: 460	I have had an FNX 45 and FNX 40 and FNS 40 (my first striker pistol). They each have approx. 2500 rds with out a failure. The 45 is my bedside gun and he 40s are used in other areas on my property/vehicles. I have a 9mm and a 357 Sig barrel for the 40s and the magazines. All are more accurate than I and I totally enjoy shooting them. I do trust them!

November 21, 2018, 06:20 PM	#16
rt11002003 Senior Member Join Date: June 25, 2014 Posts: 524	A home defense pistol should be reliable and easy to use in the dark. Just pick it up and squeeze the trigger, no safeties, nor cocking. My house has a pair of .357 Mag revolvers lying around, one upstairs, the other down stairs.

November 21, 2018, 07:15 PM	#17
FITASC Senior Member Join Date: December 6, 2014 Posts: 6,446	To address the long gun aspect, simply place it between your bed and nightstand so it remains fairly upright securely, yet is easy to get to. I leave mine with the hammer down on an empty chamber so it is a matter of rack and go __________________ "I believe that people have a right to decide their own destinies; people own themselves. I also believe that, in a democracy, government exists because (and only so long as) individual citizens give it a 'temporary license to exist'—in exchange for a promise that it will behave itself. In a democracy, you own the government—it doesn't own you."- Frank Zappa

November 21, 2018, 07:22 PM	#18
FairWarning Senior Member Join Date: September 9, 2008 Location: GA Posts: 1,149	HK USP 45 is my home sidearm. Although Daddy is my Mossy 500 12 GA. __________________ Mauser Werke, Schmidt-Rubin, Colt, Walther, HK, Weatherby, Sig Sauer, Browning, Ruger, Beretta, etc, etc....a few friends of mine

November 21, 2018, 07:29 PM	#19
cw308 Senior Member Join Date: September 2, 2010 Location: Plainview , Long Island NY Posts: 3,863	I have a S&W model 4566 built like a tank SA/ DA 45ACP

November 21, 2018, 10:40 PM	#20
Bill Daniel Senior Member Join Date: February 10, 2000 Location: Bowling Green, KY. Posts: 518	Home Gun My home gun is a Glock 21 with a Crimson Trace light and laser in a bedside holster. The light is set on strobe to disorient the intruder the laser is for my 63 year old eyes. 13+1 rounds of Hornady Critical Defense 45 acp. All the best, Bill __________________ Prosecute criminals to the fullest extent of the law and their weapons will become harmless. "Let us speak courteously, deal fairly, and keep ourselves armed and ready." Theodore Roosevelt 1903

November 22, 2018, 08:53 AM	#21
cw308 Senior Member Join Date: September 2, 2010 Location: Plainview , Long Island NY Posts: 3,863	Any firearm with enough knock down power your comfortable with . 38spl to 45acp to 12 gauge.

November 22, 2018, 11:05 AM	#22
ms6852 Senior Member Join Date: April 3, 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 1,394	My FNX works fine in the dark without an RMR sight. The nights sights are very bright and if they began to get dim recharge them by shining a flashlight to the sights just before going to bed or replace them. RMR sights are expensive for just an "in case" scenario that hopefully will never happen. Get the gun first and than save money for a few months and by the rmr sight. In the meantime the nights sights are excellent by themselves. __________________ ONLY TWO DEFINING FORCES HAVE GIVEN UP THEIR LIVES FOR YOU. ONE IS JESUS CHRIST FOR YOUR SOUL AND THE OTHER IS THE AMERICAN SOLDIER FOR YOUR FREEDOM.

November 22, 2018, 11:12 AM	#23
Nathan Senior Member Join Date: July 1, 2001 Posts: 6,328	What is your experience with these features? How did you get to these specs? Do you shot a gun similar now?

November 23, 2018, 07:50 AM	#24
JDBerg Senior Member Join Date: May 18, 2015 Location: PA Posts: 1,835	https://www.sigsauer.com/store/p226-...full-size.html This Sig Sauer P226 Legion RX fits the bill except for the requirement for a threaded barrel which you can buy separately. Personally I’d want to avoid a “gunsmith” who says that milling a slide for an RMR mount will compromise the strength of the slide, that is code phrase for run away from there in a hurry! __________________ Words to Live By: Before You Pray - Believe; Before You Speak - Listen; Before You Spend - Earn; Before You Write - Think; Before You Quit - Try; Before You Die - Live