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Old November 5, 2018, 07:05 PM   #1
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Grip N pull bullet puller

Yup bought one cause I have fifty messed up 454 loads. You see most people make a mistake on one or two. Not me no sir- ee I have to really mess up. Anyway I bought one, may work great on something that doesn’t have a major factory crimp like the beast I put on these rascals- another one of my early disasters problems. However the expensive gadget didn’t grip nor pull as these 340 grain hardcast bullets won’t move if I put a come a long on them.. ugh. I then went back to my little pounder hammer thingy and would have put buddy rich to shame with the drumming. Still nothing. Next I will try my brothers John deer loader maybe just maybe. Any ideas
I thought about my dentist, she took a back molar out that I swear the roots went to my feet , maybe she can get them to budge. My new grip n pull only gave me a heria. I am a lost cause

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Old November 5, 2018, 07:11 PM   #2
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Yup bought one cause I have fifty messed up 454 loads. You see most people make a mistake on one or two. Not me no sir- ee I have to really mess up. Anyway I bought one, may work great on something that doesn’t have a major factory crimp like the beast I put on these rascals- another one of my early disasters problems. However the expensive gadget didn’t grip nor pull as these 340 grain hardcast bullets won’t move if I put a come a long on them.. ugh. I then went back to my little pounder hammer thingy and would have put buddy rich to shame with the drumming. Still nothing. Next I will try my brothers John deer loader maybe just maybe. Any ideas
I have found that using the hammer puller and hitting on hardwood works best. Just go to lowes and buy the .25 samples.

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Old November 5, 2018, 07:16 PM   #3
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I was using cement, i will try again
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Old November 5, 2018, 07:19 PM   #4
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I place a piece of hardwood on a solid steel block so there is no further give. Using the rebounding method, it sometimes takes a few whacks if I have a tough crimp. Remember to let inertia do the work for you; you aren't trying ti hammer 16d nails into oak with one hammer blow.
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Old November 5, 2018, 07:21 PM   #5
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Collet puller on the heavy crimp.

The grip and pull works on the no crimp rifle cases, but that is about it for me.
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Old November 5, 2018, 07:24 PM   #6
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Back down stairs hammering on a board now as I hear my wife saying don’t make me come down there. How long do I have to keep hammering? No go. I have a piece of oak that I am using. Reminds me of a song
If I had a hammer there would be no rap music
Seriously how can I just dispose of them since I am getting no where
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Old November 5, 2018, 07:25 PM   #7
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Ok will buy a collet puller for sure
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Old November 5, 2018, 07:36 PM   #8
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I place a short piece of 2/6 in my vice and hit the hammer puller with a light grip so it vibrates against the cut end of the wood. I guess you would say striking with the grain of the wood. It may take two or three strikes but works. The long pole in the tent is putting each round in & out of the puller.
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Old November 5, 2018, 07:49 PM   #9
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The inertia type work best on a concrete surface, my shop floor woks fine though its got a layer of some kind of stick on things. They are not wood, maybe porcelain.

I like the inertia for a one off of sometimes a couple.

As the numbers get higher the Hornady cam over lever collet type gets put in the press and away we go.

I have had some seated so deep it was a bit tough.

None of mine are crimped or seated tight (the annealing keeps the necks more pliable)
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Old November 6, 2018, 10:48 AM   #10
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press mounted puller for me and no problems. For just a few I use the hammer puller and hit it on my steel vice anvil
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Old November 6, 2018, 10:57 AM   #11
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Collet type bullet pullers generally work well with jacketed bullets and even then the collet needs enough bullet to bite down on. Never had any luck with lead handgun bullets. A kinetic puller (hammer), a hard concrete or similar surface and a large pile of patience. Good luck on this.

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Old November 6, 2018, 11:00 AM   #12
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Don't forget the ear plugs, it makes the same sound as shooting a gun !!!
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Old November 6, 2018, 11:14 AM   #13
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Like Reloadron collet pullers have never worked for me on cast bullets. I have a thick piece of ipe which is a S American hardwood that I use. Go by any hardwood flooring installer and they see if they will give you a cutoff, hard maple, red oak or teak would be a good choice also. Hard as iron and gives that hammer style bullet puller a nice bounce
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Old November 6, 2018, 11:32 AM   #14
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press mounted puller for me and no problems. For just a few I use the hammer puller and hit it on my steel vice anvil
Any good hard non absorbing surface works.

Even a FLAT rock will work fine.

Just do not hit on a rounded steel pipe, you can ask me how I know!
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Old November 6, 2018, 12:20 PM   #15
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With heavily crimped pistol bullets, I've also found that not much works well. I usually wind up gripping the projectiles with pliers, wire cutters or such, and the projectiles wind up ruined. Fortunately, though, this has not occurred to me in a large batch - only one or two here and there...
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Old November 6, 2018, 01:14 PM   #16
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I like the Hornady Cam-Lock bullet puller, but you do need to buy it a separate collet for each caliber. Nonetheless, it works and the speed of operating the lever in one stroke as compared to multiple turns of the handle to tighten a conventional collet puller is well worth the savings in carpel tunnel PT. After you've bought collets for two calibers it is also cheaper than getting a separate conventional collet puller for a third caliber.
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Old November 7, 2018, 05:21 AM   #17
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I had the same problem, and even my collet puller couldn't pull them. With about 1500 to pull ( don't ask ) I had to figure something out. So I cranked my seater down a little to break them loose first and then the collet puller pulled them with ease and saved the bullets.
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Old November 7, 2018, 02:41 PM   #18
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Seating first is a common step pulling sealed military bullets and bullets that have sat in cases for so long the brass and gilding metal have developed some bond. With a mechanical crimp that isn't bonded, I would not have expected it would do anything. Interesting to hear that it did.
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