headstamp ID

rwilson452 · September 17, 2007, 11:44 AM

I was sorting 223 brass and found a headstamp I haven't seen before. the only markings on the head is a smal logo similar to the logo you see on Lake City brass and I presume a date stamp in this case "04". The Logo is in oppositon to the date stamp. Who Dat brass?

**Mike Irwin** · September 17, 2007, 04:31 PM

You're going to have to be a bit more descriptive than just saying "logo."

Are you talking a circle with a cross inside of it? Or something else?

rwilson452 · September 17, 2007, 06:45 PM

It's a circle and I think it's a cross inside but these tired old eyes are not too sure. Usually when I see Lake City brass it has a LC YY this brass doesn't have that just the YY

50 shooter · September 17, 2007, 07:51 PM

Circle with a cross in it means that it's NATO standard, the manufacturers usually stamp their letters/name into the brass like you see with Lake City.

Got a pic?

**Mike Irwin** · September 18, 2007, 12:42 AM

Yep, the cross in circle means that the ammo complies with NATO standards and specifications.

That said, part of NATO's S&S requirements is that the case be clearly marked as to nation and year of origin.

The fact that that is missing makes me wonder if this is some of the counterfeit Chinese ammo that made it in a couple of years ago.

September 17, 2007, 11:44 AM	#1
rwilson452 Senior Member Join Date: June 10, 2004 Location: Tioga co. PA Posts: 2,647	headstamp ID I was sorting 223 brass and found a headstamp I haven't seen before. the only markings on the head is a smal logo similar to the logo you see on Lake City brass and I presume a date stamp in this case "04". The Logo is in oppositon to the date stamp. Who Dat brass?

September 17, 2007, 04:31 PM	#2
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,380	You're going to have to be a bit more descriptive than just saying "logo." Are you talking a circle with a cross inside of it? Or something else? __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

September 17, 2007, 07:51 PM	#4
50 shooter Senior Member Join Date: August 6, 2002 Location: SoCal PRK Posts: 986	Circle with a cross in it means that it's NATO standard, the manufacturers usually stamp their letters/name into the brass like you see with Lake City. Got a pic? __________________ I see the world thru bloodshot eyes Streets filled with blood from distant lies The dogs of war never compromise, No time for rearranging.

September 18, 2007, 12:42 AM	#5
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,380	Yep, the cross in circle means that the ammo complies with NATO standards and specifications. That said, part of NATO's S&S requirements is that the case be clearly marked as to nation and year of origin. The fact that that is missing makes me wonder if this is some of the counterfeit Chinese ammo that made it in a couple of years ago. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

September 17, 2007, 06:45 PM	#3
rwilson452 Senior Member Join Date: June 10, 2004 Location: Tioga co. PA Posts: 2,647	It's a circle and I think it's a cross inside but these tired old eyes are not too sure. Usually when I see Lake City brass it has a LC YY this brass doesn't have that just the YY