What would you consider max range on NON DANGEROUS game with a 416 or 458 using softs

Glamdring · May 1, 2001, 10:25 PM

With a 416 Rem/Rigby using a low power scope, say 1.5-5x or so, what would you consider a reasonable max range on non dangerous game? I am thinking if one were on a "single rifle safari".

Would a 458 Win or 458 Lott have much less practical max range on non dangerous game?

Al Thompson · May 2, 2001, 05:03 AM

Can't really answer about the 416 (any flavor) as I've never chrono'ed one. Speculation is that a 350 grain bullet would be fine to 300 yards. (2600 fps, zero at 200y, 9 inches low @ 300y)

.458 Win Mag loads I worked up (400g X bullet @ 2350) still retained 2800 ft/pds (1700 fps) at 300 yards (zero @ 200, 12 inches low at 300y). Looks that would work too.

Couple of things - 300 yards is my max distance, both cartridges produce enough smack to work on game there. The 416 I shot would clover leaf at 200 yards, so accuracy would not be a factor.

Giz

Glamdring · May 2, 2001, 06:04 AM

Gizmo: How high did the 458Win 400 X-bullet hit at 100 yards?

John Y Cannuck · May 2, 2001, 06:33 AM

Any range you can comfortably hit the kill zone with either. They will do the rest.

Al Thompson · May 2, 2001, 08:01 PM

IIRC, about 2 1/2 inches... Enjoyed the cartridge, the rifle (old style) M77 kept dropping the floorplate.

Giz

May 2, 2001, 05:03 AM	#2
Al Thompson Staff Alumnus Join Date: May 2, 1999 Location: South Carolina Posts: 3,611	Can't really answer about the 416 (any flavor) as I've never chrono'ed one. Speculation is that a 350 grain bullet would be fine to 300 yards. (2600 fps, zero at 200y, 9 inches low @ 300y) .458 Win Mag loads I worked up (400g X bullet @ 2350) still retained 2800 ft/pds (1700 fps) at 300 yards (zero @ 200, 12 inches low at 300y). Looks that would work too. Couple of things - 300 yards is my max distance, both cartridges produce enough smack to work on game there. The 416 I shot would clover leaf at 200 yards, so accuracy would not be a factor. Giz __________________ http://www.scfirearms.org/

May 2, 2001, 08:01 PM	#5
Al Thompson Staff Alumnus Join Date: May 2, 1999 Location: South Carolina Posts: 3,611	400 gr X-bullet at 200y IIRC, about 2 1/2 inches... Enjoyed the cartridge, the rifle (old style) M77 kept dropping the floorplate. Giz __________________ http://www.scfirearms.org/

May 1, 2001, 10:25 PM	#1
Glamdring Senior Member Join Date: April 23, 2000 Location: MN Posts: 1,388	With a 416 Rem/Rigby using a low power scope, say 1.5-5x or so, what would you consider a reasonable max range on non dangerous game? I am thinking if one were on a "single rifle safari". Would a 458 Win or 458 Lott have much less practical max range on non dangerous game?

May 2, 2001, 06:04 AM	#3
Glamdring Senior Member Join Date: April 23, 2000 Location: MN Posts: 1,388	Gizmo: How high did the 458Win 400 X-bullet hit at 100 yards?

May 2, 2001, 06:33 AM	#4
John Y Cannuck Member Join Date: March 29, 2000 Posts: 60	Any range you can comfortably hit the kill zone with either. They will do the rest.