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January 20, 2013, 10:50 PM | #1 |
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H.R. 226: turn in your guns for a tax break
Many sheepo gun owners will fall for this if it gets pass.
H.R.226 - Support Assault Firearms Elimination and Reduction for our Streets Act http://beta.congress.gov/bill/113th-...t?q=h.r.%20226 Enjoy |
January 20, 2013, 10:56 PM | #2 |
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I wonder if they have any realization of the stupidity of offering a $2K tax break on a $250 Hi-Point carbine in 9mm and other pistol calibers, which hardly even measures up to their distorted perception of "assault rifle" and is only offered with 10-round magazines. Is this because a Hi-Point was used at Columbine?
To be honest, it's a bit tempting, I could buy a much better rifle(s) with the profit. |
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January 20, 2013, 11:13 PM | #4 |
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I need to read it more thoroughly to see if there's some modification I can make to my 870 Express so I can turn it in for a $2k tax credit.
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January 20, 2013, 11:15 PM | #5 |
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Cash for Clunkers==> Cash for Calibers?
Maybe we should step out as spacecoast was heading toward, and go out and buy a Hi Point each..... To help the economy, of course.
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Yeah, I'm sure I could find a way to abuse this law. |
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January 21, 2013, 11:02 AM | #9 |
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That webpage doesn't look like the normal one, and I can't find Del Lauro as a Representative...
Edit, had to jump through some hoops and get there from a non-user-friendly way but I got there.... http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/.../~c113sfNAQQ:: |
January 21, 2013, 11:10 AM | #10 |
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once again, going after law abiding, tax paying citizens
this is proof (again) that bills are only affecting the honest citizen.
how many thugs will even be aware of it? If this has any affect whatsover, it will be that it encourages more homes being broken into so a thief can hand it to Mom and get the refund thru her.
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January 21, 2013, 11:20 AM | #11 |
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Mom won't legally own it either. If the thugs don't know about it, why would they steal a gun for the tax credit?
Don't get me wrong, it's an incredibly stupid bordering on moronically fiscal-suicide bill, but all of your arguments are circularly self-defeating. The actual results will be what people are already figuring out. Step 1, buy 28 guage Rossi Circuit Judge for $665. Step 2, Turn in for tax credit. Step 3, Profit, while Uncle Sam wonders why the hell Rossi is making more money than they are. |
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I will repeat the post I made yesterday morning:
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I'm in. Sounds like I will be saving $1950/ a year in taxes and getting junk off the market. I can't help it if the people writing the law are willfully ignorant, they choose to be that way despite our best efforts to educate them. It is their system, I am just along for the ride even if it is a downward spiral. I gave this some more thought and now wish the NRA would back this last one (HR 226) hard. There would be some great advantages: - Criminals will not benefit like they do during gun buy backs when trying to get rid of crime guns for cash. Since they mostly pay no taxes there is no incentive for them to participate. - The money given can be used to fund much better gun purchases. For minimal costs I can fund a new AR project every year. Just about anyone would be able to afford a nice new gun purchase by trading in old junk. - Gun makers will benefit all around. Low end gun makers will benefit from purchase and trade in. High end gun makers will benefit after the tax returns come in. If used properly it would be very much like a cash for clunkers give away program.
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January 21, 2013, 12:34 PM | #13 |
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I don't know Alabama Shooter. I'm ok with it until you carry it out to it's logical end.
When we all take advantage of this the US will go broke. They won't be able to afford their M4's and will have to issue their stockpiles of turned in Rossi 5 shot revolving 28 gauge revolving shotguns as the primary issued weapon. |
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Normally I would say that this bill would be too crazy and idiotic to pass but.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnX-D4kkPOQ
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January 21, 2013, 01:26 PM | #15 |
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This thing is too loopy to live for very long in committee. If the CBO ever does an estimate of its cost, it's dead.
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Does SARCO still sell those paperweight 1911 frame castings? And their $50 threaded barrels? Presto -- buy a frame casting, whack on it with a file enough to be able to mount a threaded barrel, stamp or etch on a serial number, and turn it in.
Cost should be under $100, for which you save $1000 a year for two years. |
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But then again the Fed is gonna mint a $1 trillion dollar coin. I guess all the logic in the world is useless at this point.
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We've also been discussing this bill here: http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=512922
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Mr. Scott this is the Law and Civil Rights forum. There are a large number of democrats that own firearms, and support the RKBA. I live in a blue state with fairly nice firearms laws for example. A global attack on either political party does nothing but make the members of that party close ranks. More accurately, you could have said if it's backed by more people like the author who don't know or understand guns, then it has a chance.
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I also noticed it includes "conversion kits" as qualifying for the $2000 credit. Here's the definition:
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Constructive possession, as well.
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January 24, 2013, 10:53 AM | #25 |
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So in theory you could just buy a hi-point and JB-weld a front grip to it, or thread the barrel and get a $2000 tax credit?
Sounds like a good deal to me. But wait isn't a pistol with a forward grip a NFA item? So you would have to pay the $200 tax stamp and get an extended background check to attach it? Seems like the threaded barrel is the way to go. Is a hi-point barrel even thread-able? |
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