"Ruining meat" - Page 2

castnblast · December 4, 2007, 11:31 AM

Bambi is small in our neck of the woods. Not too much meat on the shoulder. If i don't feel confident w/ the neck shot, I go for smack in the shoulder. I don't shoot behind the shoulder, cuz I hate it when bullets fragment on bone fragments and cuts the gut...:barf: So Neck or smack in the shoulder, and the trail is short. Done it w/ 300win mag, 7mm rem mag, 270, 25-06, 243, 22-250, 357 magnum, and bow and arrow. All wound up in the freezer just the same, including the 22-250, shot in the shoulder, and dropped dead in it's tracks. the longest trail w/ a rifle, about 50 yds. Longest trail w/ bow, about 75...BTW, I stick my arrows right in the middle of the shoulder as well....on deer and hogs. Shot 2 javelina w/ one shot through the shoulders @35yds. My wife watched me do it.

Tom Matiska · December 4, 2007, 12:40 PM

Just ruined a few more pounds than I would have liked this weekend. Slow mover, in the brush, missed a clean lung shot by few inches and did a number on the far side shoulder. Not a bad "miss", and my 307 isn't exactly gross overkill, but pushing blunt 30-30 bullets the extra few hundred fps does have issues on close range shots.

Here in PA we get a ration of one buck per year, and apply for limited doe tags. Combined buck/doe harvest is about one third of the 900,000+ hunters. Some in this thread live in a state with a 4 deer limit, and enjoy higher success rates. Erring on the side of overkill isn't necessarliy erring. But here, ruining a quarter or more of edible meat (before sharing with 2 hunting buddies) isn't my first choice... waste not want not.....

ZeroJunk · December 4, 2007, 12:46 PM

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live in a state with a 4 deer limit

Don't want to put salt in the wound, but in NC this year if you use your six tags you can apply and they will send you two more doe tags.

jimbob86 · December 5, 2007, 04:19 PM

In SE Nebraska( Blue Management unit) they give a bonus Antlerless deer on every tag. It is possible to get like 8 deer (2 buck Limit) during firearm season as long as permits don't run out for the area......... there is talk of next year requiring hunter to take a doe before they can take a buck in some of the special management areas............ to many deer, tomany car/deer interfaces, to much crop damage, and not enough meat hunters.

davlandrum · December 5, 2007, 04:40 PM

Castnblast - How much weight are you pulling on your bow? I have never heard of anyone actually arrowing the shoulder blade on purpose.

Hawg · December 5, 2007, 04:41 PM

What's a deer tag?

We can take three of each legally but we don't have tags. So if nobody sees you with one................................

castnblast · December 8, 2007, 12:58 PM

70lbs. These are South Texas deer, about 150 live weight tops. The mid shoulder blade really isn't that tough to shoot through. I use Chizle point broadheads. Done it with both fixed and mechanicals. Some of the deer shot w/ mechanicals have broken a blade, but at least the other two stay intact. Next year I'll go back to the muzzy's. My kids will be older, and I won't have to worry about them sticking their fingers in my quiver, which is the only reason I went to mechanicals the last couple years.

The two javelinas I shot last year off my back porch were shot at 37 yds. the arrow went completely though all 4 shoulder blades and exited. I use heavy arrows thought. 10.1gr. per inch. Not the ultra light arrows. Makes a huge difference, and I shoot 100 or 125 gr. broadheads.

Yellowfin · December 8, 2007, 02:42 PM

I've never had a single instance of meat ruining with my .30-06 nor has anyone I've hunted with.

December 4, 2007, 11:31 AM	#26
castnblast Senior Member Join Date: July 2, 2006 Location: Corpus Christi TX Posts: 1,148	Bambi is small in our neck of the woods. Not too much meat on the shoulder. If i don't feel confident w/ the neck shot, I go for smack in the shoulder. I don't shoot behind the shoulder, cuz I hate it when bullets fragment on bone fragments and cuts the gut...:barf: So Neck or smack in the shoulder, and the trail is short. Done it w/ 300win mag, 7mm rem mag, 270, 25-06, 243, 22-250, 357 magnum, and bow and arrow. All wound up in the freezer just the same, including the 22-250, shot in the shoulder, and dropped dead in it's tracks. the longest trail w/ a rifle, about 50 yds. Longest trail w/ bow, about 75...BTW, I stick my arrows right in the middle of the shoulder as well....on deer and hogs. Shot 2 javelina w/ one shot through the shoulders @35yds. My wife watched me do it. __________________ VEGETARIAN...old indian word for bad hunter

December 5, 2007, 04:19 PM	#29
jimbob86 Junior member Join Date: October 4, 2007 Location: All the way to NEBRASKA Posts: 8,722	# of deer tags In SE Nebraska( Blue Management unit) they give a bonus Antlerless deer on every tag. It is possible to get like 8 deer (2 buck Limit) during firearm season as long as permits don't run out for the area......... there is talk of next year requiring hunter to take a doe before they can take a buck in some of the special management areas............ to many deer, tomany car/deer interfaces, to much crop damage, and not enough meat hunters.

December 5, 2007, 04:40 PM	#30
davlandrum Senior Member Join Date: February 27, 2006 Location: Lane County Oregon Posts: 2,547	Castnblast - How much weight are you pulling on your bow? I have never heard of anyone actually arrowing the shoulder blade on purpose. __________________ U.S Army, Retired Ethics is knowing the difference between what you have a right to do and what is right to do. -Potter Stewart

December 8, 2007, 12:58 PM	#32
castnblast Senior Member Join Date: July 2, 2006 Location: Corpus Christi TX Posts: 1,148	70lbs. These are South Texas deer, about 150 live weight tops. The mid shoulder blade really isn't that tough to shoot through. I use Chizle point broadheads. Done it with both fixed and mechanicals. Some of the deer shot w/ mechanicals have broken a blade, but at least the other two stay intact. Next year I'll go back to the muzzy's. My kids will be older, and I won't have to worry about them sticking their fingers in my quiver, which is the only reason I went to mechanicals the last couple years. The two javelinas I shot last year off my back porch were shot at 37 yds. the arrow went completely though all 4 shoulder blades and exited. I use heavy arrows thought. 10.1gr. per inch. Not the ultra light arrows. Makes a huge difference, and I shoot 100 or 125 gr. broadheads. __________________ VEGETARIAN...old indian word for bad hunter

December 4, 2007, 12:40 PM	#27
Tom Matiska Senior Member Join Date: April 12, 2000 Location: Wilkes-Barre, Pa Posts: 1,029	Just ruined a few more pounds than I would have liked this weekend. Slow mover, in the brush, missed a clean lung shot by few inches and did a number on the far side shoulder. Not a bad "miss", and my 307 isn't exactly gross overkill, but pushing blunt 30-30 bullets the extra few hundred fps does have issues on close range shots. Here in PA we get a ration of one buck per year, and apply for limited doe tags. Combined buck/doe harvest is about one third of the 900,000+ hunters. Some in this thread live in a state with a 4 deer limit, and enjoy higher success rates. Erring on the side of overkill isn't necessarliy erring. But here, ruining a quarter or more of edible meat (before sharing with 2 hunting buddies) isn't my first choice... waste not want not.....

December 5, 2007, 04:41 PM	#31
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,189	What's a deer tag? We can take three of each legally but we don't have tags. So if nobody sees you with one................................

December 8, 2007, 02:42 PM	#33
Yellowfin Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2007 Location: Lancaster Co, PA Posts: 2,311	I've never had a single instance of meat ruining with my .30-06 nor has anyone I've hunted with.