Warning! Guns in Pocket Unholstered - Page 2

1goodshot · December 15, 2007, 06:35 AM

I carry my glock without a holster but the chamber is empty, to dangerous IMO to do it that way with a loaded chamber.

stephen426 · December 15, 2007, 10:00 AM

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I carry my glock without a holster but the chamber is empty, to dangerous IMO to do it that way with a loaded chamber.

Please consider an experiment... Remove the magazine and rack the slide so that your Glock is half-cocked. Insert your magazine as usual and carry it that way. At night, remove your magazine and retract the slide slightly to ensure that you have not chambeed a round any time during the day. Do not retract it to the point where you would cock the gun. Check the trigger and see if it went off at any point. If you do that long enough, you might realize that accidental discharges are not really that easy assuming you use care and don't put anything that could snag it.

Would you guys feel it was safe to carry a Glock chambered if I installed something like a Safe T Block? Those are easily removed right? I can understand wanting other forum members to be safe, but I have to say it seems some of you would realy prefer I shoot myself to prove yourselves right. Sheesh!

Erik · December 15, 2007, 01:29 PM

I'm sure I speak for everyone by saying that nobody wants you or anyone else to come to harm.

Erik · December 15, 2007, 01:31 PM

As for Safe T Blocks, I have observed two seperate shooters, despite assurances as to their level of familiarity, forget to clear their blocks in training.

But that is a different type of safety issue.

rb4browns · December 16, 2007, 02:19 AM

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If you do that long enough, you might realize that accidental discharges are not really that easy assuming you use care and don't put anything that could snag it.

Nobody is saying that an accidental/negligent discharge is easy, we're only sayign that they do happen and specifically I am trying to point out that few if any of the folks who experienced them thought differently than you do. Nobody expects an accidental discharge to happen, that's why they are called "accidental."

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Would you guys feel it was safe to carry a Glock chambered if I installed something like a Safe T Block? Those are easily removed right? I can understand wanting other forum members to be safe, but I have to say it seems some of you would realy prefer I shoot myself to prove yourselves right. Sheesh!

I genuinally do not want to see you shoot yourself or even worse shoot someone else. I'm simply at a loss to understand what appears to be a genuine self-belief that you are 100% incapable of an accidental/negligent discharge. That belief seems to be leading you to take needless risks.

shep854 · December 17, 2007, 09:38 AM

Another problem with not using a pocket holster is that the gun can rotate in your pocket, so that the grip is down and the muzzle is up. Aside from the thought of the muzzle now pointing toward your vitals, this can really slow down your draw, if you have to fumble with the gun in your pocket.

I use the very inexpensive Uncle Mike's pocket holster. It adds very little to bulk (MUCH less than a wallet

) but it stabilizes and protects my pistol nicely.

Thunderhawk88 · December 17, 2007, 10:35 AM

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but I have to say it seems some of you would realy prefer I shoot myself to prove yourselves right. Sheesh!

I do not believe anyone advocated you do anything but what you are comfortable with. Everyone gave their opinion on the best way they believe to pocket carry a Glock. You can do it any way you want, I know I'll keep singing bass.

Silentarmy · December 17, 2007, 01:10 PM

As I told a member on THR last night... I don't make the rules regarding pocket carrying Glocks but be sure to post some pics of the AD or in this case NEGLIGENT Discharge when you do shoot yourself or something else. Being Stupid on purpose takes the "accidental" part right out of the equation!

Stevie-Ray · December 17, 2007, 09:23 PM

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We are talking about two diferent things here. One is sinply pressing a flat button and the other is snagging a trigger that is protected by a trigger guard.

Uh huh. And one is happening about once a week on average, and one needs to happen only once to spell disaster. Your opinion is noted, but I'll be packing in a holster at all times, thank you very much.

And BTW, the P32 is the ONLY thing in the pocket it resides in. It will STILL always be in a holster. If it's truly not needed, at least I will be erring on the side of caution, and not losing anything in draw.

pax · December 17, 2007, 09:41 PM

I do believe this one has run its course, and can go nowhere useful from here.

Closed.

pax

December 15, 2007, 01:29 PM	#28
Erik Senior Member Join Date: December 24, 1999 Location: America Posts: 3,479	I'm sure I speak for everyone by saying that nobody wants you or anyone else to come to harm. __________________ Meriam Webster's: Main Entry: ci·vil·ian Pronunciation: \sə-ˈvil-yən also -ˈvi-yən\, Function: noun, Date: 14th century, 1: a specialist in Roman or modern civil law, 2 a: one not on active duty in the armed services or not on a police or firefighting force b: outsider 1, — civilian adjective

December 15, 2007, 01:31 PM	#29
Erik Senior Member Join Date: December 24, 1999 Location: America Posts: 3,479	As for Safe T Blocks, I have observed two seperate shooters, despite assurances as to their level of familiarity, forget to clear their blocks in training. But that is a different type of safety issue. __________________ Meriam Webster's: Main Entry: ci·vil·ian Pronunciation: \sə-ˈvil-yən also -ˈvi-yən\, Function: noun, Date: 14th century, 1: a specialist in Roman or modern civil law, 2 a: one not on active duty in the armed services or not on a police or firefighting force b: outsider 1, — civilian adjective

December 17, 2007, 09:38 AM	#31
shep854 Senior Member Join Date: June 4, 2004 Location: Birmingham AL Posts: 632	Another problem with not using a pocket holster is that the gun can rotate in your pocket, so that the grip is down and the muzzle is up. Aside from the thought of the muzzle now pointing toward your vitals, this can really slow down your draw, if you have to fumble with the gun in your pocket. I use the very inexpensive Uncle Mike's pocket holster. It adds very little to bulk (MUCH less than a wallet) but it stabilizes and protects my pistol nicely. __________________ Powder smoke- The Smell of FREEDOM! I don't shoot to kill; I shoot to live. Registration? NEVER!!

December 17, 2007, 01:10 PM	#33
Silentarmy Senior Member Join Date: August 13, 2007 Location: Bountiful, Utah Posts: 355	As I told a member on THR last night... I don't make the rules regarding pocket carrying Glocks but be sure to post some pics of the AD or in this case NEGLIGENT Discharge when you do shoot yourself or something else. Being Stupid on purpose takes the "accidental" part right out of the equation! __________________ "No one will Ever buy that PLASTIC gun!" Steve Gallenson, Early 1980's "Those Who live by the sword get Shot by those of us who don't" "What we learn from History is that we do not learn from History!"

December 17, 2007, 09:41 PM	#35
pax Senior Member Join Date: May 16, 2000 Location: In a state of flux Posts: 7,520	I do believe this one has run its course, and can go nowhere useful from here. Closed. pax __________________ Kathy Jackson My personal website: Cornered Cat

December 15, 2007, 06:35 AM	#26
1goodshot Senior Member Join Date: November 11, 2001 Location: chandler,az Posts: 929	I carry my glock without a holster but the chamber is empty, to dangerous IMO to do it that way with a loaded chamber.