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December 8, 2019, 02:35 PM | #252 |
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December 8, 2019, 02:45 PM | #253 |
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Without practicing, 3 seconds to eject and reload my 9mm 637-2 J-frame.
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December 8, 2019, 02:54 PM | #254 |
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Hal: That's easy. It's twelve rounds.
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December 8, 2019, 03:35 PM | #255 |
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Something to perhaps keep in the back of our minds ...
An old saying - which I recently heard used by a young sergeant who served some tours in Afg - is that handguns are meant to get you out of trouble. Rifles (or shotguns) are used if you're planning to go get into trouble. There are inherent limitations of DA revolvers (meaning with swing out cylinders, not SA's with loading gates) regarding both capacity and speed-of-loading, granted. However, that doesn't necessarily mean that revolvers can't still be successfully employed as personal defensive weapons. Someone's ability to employ their acquired skills may be supplemented by choice of gear and familiarity with properly using the gear selected, but the selection of gear isn't going to be able to improve or enhance someone's underlying skillset. Using something as a crutch is still using a crutch, even if you don't call it (or admit it's) a crutch.
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December 8, 2019, 03:39 PM | #256 |
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Screwball: That's a nice handgun. It is obvious that you put thought into that project going exactly where you wanted to go.
I have no intention of suggesting that all revolvers had those failings. Many guns of all sorts have been ruined by holsters combined with other bad care are you described. All the failings that were shared came from personal observations. No over generalization intended. I got a custom barrel for my old G29. On shooting it for the first time the slide jammed back. The gun refused to fire. The maker asked for the slide and barrel be returned. Finally, called him back. He offered a refund saying my slide was out of specs. That was the last after market drop-in barrel I bought. What ever it is, shoot it first out of the gate. My custom Revolver is a Clark Custom Light Revolver built up on a K38 frame. With 6" barrel it misses that mark as a carry gun. Those HK's can be addictive.
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"Reliability is one. Now we can argue until the cows come home about how reliable modern autos have become and I will concede that, with good ammo, good magazines, proper maintenance (cleaned and lubed regularly with springs periodically replaced), and proper shooting technique they are very reliable. That being said, we don't live in a vacuum and I personally prefer my gun not be so dependent on so many variables. If there's another big panic buying event, I needn't worry quite so much about whether or not my revolver will "like" the only off-brand ammo that's available. If I have to shoot from a less than ideal position or grip, I needn't worry about slides being pushed out of battery or limp-wristing. I don't need to worry about how long it's been since I changed my magazine springs or if my feed lips might get damaged without me noticing it."
Well said. "How would you defend yourself when a gangbanger is using a G17 opened fire?" As a civilian, it would not be unusual for someone to attempt to mug or carjack me. However, I don't really understand the scenario where someone suddenly starts shooting at me from some distance away. That seems to be an unlikely way for them to try to get my wallet. If I wanted someone's car or wallet, I would just keep my eyes open for a distracted person (looking at phone, loading groceries, etc), wander over near them, hit them with a brick, and take what I wanted. In and out in seconds, no noise, probably no one notices. Where I live, if you start emptying a Glock at someone, the cops will certainly be there in under two minutes, probably faster. |
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In all those years of carrying a revolver as primary I never felt outgunned until working the canyons west of El Paso, Tx near Mount Crysto Rey at night chasing bandits.
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This discussion has devolved from a discussion of why revolver owners don't worry about capacity, through several detours until we are now trading insults.
Case closed.
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