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Old April 22, 2020, 05:30 AM   #51
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The 30-06 is “old reliable”. You can load such a wide variety of bullets to match your task at hand and recoil limitations. I think the only downside is the amount of powder you will burn through loading it. Many actually will say the same for the 308 since the range of projectiles is the same. The 30 cal options may have a smidge more recoil then the OP wants. Still a phenomenal option.
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Old April 22, 2020, 08:05 AM   #52
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One thing Bart doesn't post about is the open.

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Old April 22, 2020, 11:27 AM   #53
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Let's bring the thread back on topic.

The big caliber stuff is interesting, but if you read Post #1, you will see the member is looking for modest recoil and $750-ish price range and to shoot at 100 yards.

The above is why I suggested the 222 Rem in my first post, #18, and then thought he might find it too similar to his 223 Rem and suggested the 257 Roberts and the 6 mm benchrest calibers in my second post (though whether he can keep to his $750 budget doing that is another matter).

We need to be thinking along the lines of something like the Savage 110 Varmint, which has the Accustock and Accutrigger, but 204 Ruger or 22-250 are its only non-223 offerings off the shelf. Tikka has some of its T3X rifles in the price range for .22-250. Other suggestions would probably be welcome.
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Old April 23, 2020, 11:15 AM   #54
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As others have mentioned, a quality 22LR is a solid choice. Get a good bolt-action rifle as your foundation and go from there. Don't be afraid of getting a used rifle. I bought 40X Remingtons within your budget if you look for deals. If you want a center fire and don't handload, calibers like 223 and 22-250 have accurate factory ammo that are easy to find. Good luck.
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Old April 23, 2020, 11:58 AM   #55
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I actually have 4 that I love to target shoot with and all are bolt guns. A R700 in .223, R700 in .243win, R700 in .300blk (don’t judge lol), and a Ruger Precision Rimfire in .22LR. The .223 is a SPS model and is super heavy. So it’s really easy to shoot all day. The .243win is a ADL that can cloverleaf a 5 shot group if I do my part. Plus I use it for hogs and coyotes. The .300blk, just because people said you can’t get it to shoot small groups lol. The Ruger was a pure impulse and has become one of my favorite rimfire rifles next to my ultralight 10/22 and Browning SA.
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Old April 23, 2020, 02:54 PM   #56
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The .243win is a ADL that can cloverleaf a 5 shot group if I do my part.
Please explain what your part is to shoot cloverleaf groups.
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Old April 23, 2020, 09:24 PM   #57
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Bart, the basics. Breathing, trigger control, follow through. Doesn’t hurt that it’s a free floated barrel and a Timney trigger set to 2lbs.
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Old April 23, 2020, 11:15 PM   #58
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I’m not really clear what you are trying to do here, so I’m a bit swayed by my own interests... bolt gun, under $750, like to reload...rifle and scope? I’m going to assume you meant rifle only. How far can you shoot?

To me, rifles generally start at $1000, by the time I get ready to shoot and seen to quickly get to $2000-$3000 before I’m happy including optic.

So, $750 is kind of lower/low-mid range, IMO. What is interesting to you? Accuracy, load development, just shooting a different name?

For example, I just wanted a 350 Legend to be ready to hunt OH Deer, if we get straight with this COVID. I bought scope, mount, dies, brass, bullets, etc and am starting to load for it. It showed me a 0.6” 3 shot group. It is a Winchester XPR $425, scoped with a Vortex 1-8x I came into and Leupold bases & rings $50. I think that could be $750. It is fun, low recoil, bangs steel out to 300 and adds some fun.

If I suggest a 6.5 creedmoor, they are out there at a similar price point. With work, you can make honest 1 moa rifles out of them. Ruger American is one of them. Howa 1500 might be even better.

17 hmr will also be in the ball park, but no reloading.

Sure, a 222, 6br, 6 creedmor, etc in a Tikka, trued 700, Savage 12, etc are great, but you will quickly pass $750.

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Old April 23, 2020, 11:57 PM   #59
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1. 2. & 3.~270 win 25-06 rem 22 magnum
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Old April 24, 2020, 05:53 AM   #60
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We could go all day with such a topic which allows opinions to be considered vs attacked. So much fun. Keep the ideas coming. Orginally I was just trying to help now I am intrigued at some of the people’s ideas that I may start another fun project ‘just because’.
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as the latter generally involved deeds and mortgages and bulldozers.
Funny, but true. I live in heavily wooded state and finding even 100 yards can be a challenge. I keep looking around for a piece of land with an abandoned airstrip or right-of way power line/pipeline cut.
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Old April 24, 2020, 06:58 PM   #62
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One of the national highpower champions developed 308 Win loads that tested several 10-shot groups under 1.5 inches at 600 yards. He won the 600 yard prone aggregate with three 20-shot strings inside 7+ inches.
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I favor .223 at 100 yds, but I'm considering adding to it to fend off boredom. This would be a bolt gun; not looking for a sore shoulder and would like to keep it under $750 if that is realistic these days (last rifle I bought was a 10/22 a few years back). I'd want to reload, but that's a different thread. Thanks for your suggestions.
6 BR Norma for group. 30 Br for dots. 100 and 200 yard.
6 Br for 400 and 600.

I dont have a favorite 1000 yd cartridge. I change all the time. I guess 6x284 if you nailed me down.
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One of the national highpower champions developed 308 Win loads that tested several 10-shot groups under 1.5 inches at 600 yards. He won the 600 yard prone aggregate with three 20-shot strings inside 7+ inches.
I had to hang up the .308 Win after shoulder reconstruction. I can take a couple heavy recoil rounds in hunting rifles but cant take repetitive pounding.
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Old April 25, 2020, 10:47 AM   #65
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Bart, NRA doesn't agg groups. If they do please put up rules.
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Old April 25, 2020, 10:59 AM   #66
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223 all the way!

Another 223 bolt rifle fan here. Bought my first one in 1992, slayed hundreds of rockchucks with that one. I had a few decent 223 bolt rifles that came and went before I bought my Kimber.

The one I have had the longest, liked the best, had the most fun with and will never get rid of is a Kimber 223 Longmaster Classic purchased in 2007.

It cost a bit more than you mentioned; I was very hesitant to buy it because it cost about twice the amount of money of the other 223 bolt rifles I bought. I had to buy it on lay-a-way.

Other's have had bad luck with Kimber rifles, I would not hesitate to buy another one if I was in the market. As a matter of fact, last year I purchased a new Kimber 223 Classic Select Grade for a walk around rifle. It's another gem worth hanging on to.

Neither rifle has had a commercial round fired through it, both rifles shoot the same handload with minute of chicken egg accuracy. They are the only 223 rifles I own now.

Shooting lemons all day from 100-300 yards is quite the riot; I can shoot a couple hundred rounds without beating my shoulder into submission.
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Old April 25, 2020, 11:45 AM   #67
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The NRA aggregates scores. Types and rules are stated in match programs listed by the NRA for the national matches or clubs for local and state matches. National records are listed in and can be found in.....

https://competitions.nra.org/results...ional-records/

I mentioned the 7+ inch group because the furthest out of the 6" X ring a shot went was about an inch across three 20-shot strings.

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