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Old October 2, 2017, 08:22 AM   #26
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My guess is that it's slightly under-gassed. I'll try cleaning out the entire system again and check everything to see if it's lined up right. Hunting season has started so my "firearm diddle time" is limited. After I had such good results with the PSA AR 47 upper I'm really disappointed that this 308 doesn't shoot better
I hear ya on hunting season, we don't start until mid November through ,January 31st.
But , a new rifle not cycling that was not home built should be sent back and fixed. No sense in you wasting time on it.....and if it is a DI gun, I don't think cleaning the gas system will matter.

But, if you are so inclined, you could put a light buffer and spring in it and heat up some handloads to see if that helps
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Old October 2, 2017, 08:24 AM   #27
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But, if you are so inclined, you could put a light buffer and spring in it and heat up some handloads to see if that helps
That was my first reaction as well. Sounds like an opportunity.
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Old October 2, 2017, 08:44 AM   #28
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Yeah--I'll do some hand-loads to try it out--but I agree that a factory built upper should have no issues with factory ammo. My gut feeling is that using a mid-length non-adjustable gas system on a 18" powerful round barrel doesn't help matters--especially if the port is "downsized" to mitigate gas pressure. All my other 18" barrels are configured with rifle gas.
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Old October 9, 2017, 10:33 PM   #29
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Did someone say retro?

Not a PSA, but retro None the less.
It's a Colt LE 6920 OEM-1 (Fixed front "F" sight )
I had the double heat shield handguards , and stock on hand. Added the standard mil-spec Trigger guard, a spare stock I had, and ALG trigger.

Bought a used colt carry handle. And despite all the temptation, mark my words..She will NOT get mall ninja'd!!!!

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Note, I blacked out the LE 75xxx serial number on photo editor

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Old October 9, 2017, 11:31 PM   #30
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Very nice MS! I ended up taking the scope off my " M14gery" and putting a simple red-dot on which co-witnesses with the front post sight perfectly. I also decided to whip up some hand-loads to see if that helps matters any. Rear iron simply won't work for my bad eyes unfortunately.



Here are some ballistic tip loads that I once shot a small one-holer through a savae axis; hope they shoot better than the factory stuff I've tried so far.
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Old October 13, 2017, 08:05 AM   #31
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Continued wide dispersion of shots and failures to feed and eject. Average groups of about 5" at 100 yds. My prognosis--utter piece of junk to be avoided like the plague.

I will eventually strip the upper apart--but I'm willing to bet the mid-length gas system configuration is a big factor in the operational problems.
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Old October 13, 2017, 08:34 AM   #32
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Continued wide dispersion of shots and failures to feed and eject. Average groups of about 5" at 100 yds. My prognosis--utter piece of junk to be avoided like the plague
If it we're a shooter, I would try and fix the feed issues. But there is likely no saving a gun shooting 5moa groups if you are using quality components to begin with. 3moa to less than 1 moa happens all the time....but my AK with wolf ammo will do 3 moa with open sights.

So salvage what you can, and perhaps try not using budget part's
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Old October 13, 2017, 08:47 AM   #33
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So salvage what you can, and perhaps try not using budget part's
I knew it was a gamble going into it. You win a few--like I did with the 7.62 x 39 upper--but you lose a few as well.

My built entirely from scratch ARs have always been sub-MOA capable with the exception of two I made using clearance budget barrels from major manufacturers, and even those would at least consistently do 1.5 to 2.5 MOA at worst.
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Just on the basis of the title of this thread, I thought i'd provide a link to a pretty decent deal in case any of you might be interested.

http://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-2...516447015.html
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