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September 19, 2018, 03:52 PM | #51 | |||
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Winchester Model 70 Classic Ruger Hawkeye Kimber 8400 or 84 I can't think of any others right off the top of my head. There are possibly a couple more. But the list gets small pretty fast!
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September 19, 2018, 04:00 PM | #52 |
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45/70 with those magnum Buffalo Bore. Twisted this old guy up like my fishing line. Very quickly I started reloading my own to keep from becoming a knot. A marlin lever action
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September 21, 2018, 04:59 AM | #53 |
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So, what do you think...Ruger Hawkeye African 6.5x55
The only problem is they are a bit rare....they also made it in 275 Rigby, but that is even more rare! |
September 21, 2018, 06:27 AM | #54 |
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September 21, 2018, 11:47 AM | #55 |
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American Game Hunting rifle(with 0pen mind)
a model 725 Remington in 30-06 or 280; exquisite rifle! |
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September 21, 2018, 07:38 PM | #57 |
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The Hawkeye is a very nice gun and the African meets most of the OP criteria. I'm not sure about the safety however. If you want a safety that blocks trigger movement in one safe position, and blocks trigger movement and locks the bolt down in the second safety position, the Hawkeye meets that criteria. However I, if you want a bolt mounted safety, a safety that directly blocks the striker, or a safety that permits bolt disassembly without tools, I believe you will need to look elsewhere.
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September 22, 2018, 08:32 AM | #58 |
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As to the question in the subject line, there are basically 3, Winchester, Remmington and Savage. Walk into any hunting camp and you'll find them. As for the one classic that everyone drooled over, that would be the Weatherby Mark V. Caliber preference varies all over the board but in all my years of hunting, it really didn't make a huge difference. Each hunter knew his rifle simply because very few had more than one.
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What do these all have in common? Great mid range calibers like 6.5x55, 275 Rigby, 30’06, 270 win....bolt safety, controlled round feed, fixed ejector Quote:
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September 22, 2018, 12:23 PM | #61 |
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The safety tab combined with the notch in the striker appears that it might prevent the striker from moving forward more than about 0.1". However I'm not sure the geometries of the parts are actually suitably designed to overcome the very strong striker spring used, especially given a small running start of the striker. It's not easy to test the reliability of the striker notch/safety tab without permanently altering the safety, so I haven't tested it myself. Don't get me wrong, I like and use a Hawkeye myself. I'm just attempting to accurately represent the design.
Winchester's bolt shroud mounted safety is considerably different in the details, but the Ruger design does offer functionality that is somewhat similar, if not completely suitable. Though I greatly prefer the Winchester M70 safety and trigger design over the Ruger, I always seem to find Rugers instead of Winchesters when I'm looking for a hunting rifle. So I've hunted mostly with the Rugers; with success, and without incident. |
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September 23, 2018, 09:36 AM | #63 |
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BBarn,
I completely agree with your sentiment. I was just pointing out the Ruger’s capability. I have looked at one closely, but not been able to adequately determine if it works. Being a Ruger, i’d assume it works. It does engage with a flat spot to the striker and it does have a detent to hold it there. I too prefer the Winchester setup, but the few super grades I have handled were a bit rough and wobbled in the bolt. Kimber executes this safety better. Kimber are fine guns in my opinion, but there is so little action and barrel metal on them. The are probably safe and balance well, but I don’t think I could shoot that accurately at that weight. It would make me another whiner on the web about accuracy.... |
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