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August 4, 2019, 01:24 AM | #1 |
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Giving sister a gun in another state ???
So I had been planning on sending my sister a handgun from a FFL here in CA to an FFL in Montana . I never really got around to it and now I'm going to be in Montana for a short stay . Can I just take her the handgun and do a PPT at a FFL in Montana ? Or is there an easier way with less fuss ?
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Interstate transfers of handguns must go through an FFL in the recipient's state of residence. As far as I know, you should be able to transport it there yourself and go with her to an FFL for the transfer, but I would advise checking with the FFL beforehand to verify whether or not he'll accept a handgun not coming from a distributor or other FFL.
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It's good advice to check with the FFL beforehand, to make sure they're comfortable with the transfer.
Legally, however, there's no problem. No matter how you do it, the handgun must be transferred through an FFL as long as your states of residency are different.
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Thanks guys that helps .
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Check on the laws pertaining to gifting a firearm to a relative-you may not have to do a transfer if it is a gift-just sayin
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Ok , here in Montana but my sister does not have the proper ID needed Can I transfer to anyone up here ? Meaning go to an ffl and transfer it to her boyfriend . They then can do what they want after , I just need it out of my name if it’s no longer going to be in my possession ??
I want to be totally legal here and got to thinking I should be able to transfer it whom ever i want that will pass the NICS ??? What that person does with the firearm is not my problem ????
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She moved here a couple years ago from Oregon and never got here Montana id . She needs proof of residency .
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Your sister has a boyfriend. Someone is raising the ease and reduced red tape hassle of of considering getting him involved. Glaring red flag? maybe no, but an orange warning flag is certainly there. 1) If your sister is the intended recipient of the gun you should not really be thinking about alternatives involving other people other than an FFL. You and your sister and her boyfriend could be exposed, and consider that your sister may no nothing about gun laws and you could be putting her in legal jeopardy. 2) alternately, the boyfriend could be the intended final recipient and a prohibited person. this could put your sister at a lot of risk. A lot of straws are girlfriends acquiring for boyfriends. So many don't know records of people they are dating, or even married to in some cases, or believe/think/convince themselves their boyfriends record is somehow unfair, and or that people are threatening him and therefore a straw is not a bad thing. It is. I am not saying this is the case or likely to be so, but don't discount the risks to you and your sister. |
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From the instructions on the 4473: “Question 18.b. Supplemental Documentation: Licensees may accept a combination of valid government-issued documents to satisfy the identification document requirements of the law. The required valid government-issued photo identification document bearing the name, photograph, and date of birth of transferee/buyer may be supplemented by another valid, government-issued document showing the transferee's/buyer's residence address. This supplemental documentation should be recorded in question 18.b., with the issuing authority and type of identification presented.”
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Lol yes she drives , ever heard of reciprocity They live in the boondocks on a reservation and use a PO box for all mail . I know you all think it sounds odd but not everyone lives in the modern world . No TV , internet , microwave here among other things . It’s a simpler life out here . It's nice for the few days I’ve been here but it can get frustrating not having some of the things I’ve always considered normal day to day stuff .
She went down and got proof of residency today but now needs to find here ss card or birth certificate. I don’t know what all is required for her to get what she needs , I’m leaving that up to here . Thank god I never mailed it to an FFL like I had intended , that would have been disastrous . Quote:
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Your sister is probably breaking Montana law by not having a Montana driver's license, and she's probably also breaking the law of Oregon by continuing to hold it even though she's not a resident of that state. I think you should take your gun back to California with you. This whole thing is starting to sound like a slow motion train wreck. Quote:
And how is the Oregon driver's license "valid" if she's not a resident of Oregon?
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Yes, a valid Oregon driver’s license combined with a Montana voter registration card with her name and current address on it will satisfy the federal requirements for proving Montana residency to an FFL. See post #18.
If she’s breaking Oregon and/or Montana law by not getting a Montana drivers license, that’s a different issue.
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I feel like this thread is very informative about how not to give a gun to your sister in Montana. No offense to the OP, I hope it works out eventually.
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