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Semi-auto 80 18.10%
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Old March 16, 2006, 04:24 PM   #76
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870 Wingmaster. 6 in the tube, 6 on the side & 5 on the butt. Grab n go.

Wears a police trade in barrel around the house, kept the long barrel for skeets & birds.
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Old March 17, 2006, 03:22 AM   #77
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Armscor Model 30 12 ga. pump w/ 5+1 and 16 inch barrel and polymer stocks w/ no. 6. Low cost, reliable, lots of parts here (Philippines).
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Old March 20, 2006, 12:39 PM   #78
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I own a single shot 12ga savage. I have been looking at a 870 for quite some time. Unsure about some things. Their is a button on the gun to open the action. I have never shot this weapon. Do you have to press it while the gun is loaded to relaod?
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Old March 20, 2006, 01:15 PM   #79
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There is a button under the receiver to unlock the action so you can unload it by pumping out the live rounds. You can load rounds into the tube fromthe bottom anytime without using the release.

When firing the action unlocks automatically, so you just pull the trigger..... pump..... pull the trigger....
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Old March 21, 2006, 10:00 AM   #80
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winchester 1300 defender 8 shot, just in case there's more than 1 bad guy.
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Old March 21, 2006, 10:08 AM   #81
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Both

i have both in one room a 11-87 super mag nad an 870 Suger mag in another an 870 i am modifing for HD. Also, in case of more than 1 intruder.
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Old March 21, 2006, 11:14 AM   #82
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My kimber is an auto
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Old March 22, 2006, 08:05 PM   #83
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rem 870 12ga.
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Old March 23, 2006, 10:03 PM   #84
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Mossberg

I have a Maverick 88 8 shot security. Rack a round into the chamber and know its going to fire.
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Old March 25, 2006, 09:12 PM   #85
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Pump !!

Mossberg 500
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Old March 25, 2006, 11:40 PM   #86
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Mossberg 500, 8 shot, Knoxx SpecOps stock, 2-3/4 rifled slugs. this rig will do it and not ruin the furniture.

I recall the first trip to the range...pinned some printer paper sheets to the berm at a hundred yards and ambled back to the line...

"line is hot!" sounded. I shouldered the beast, standing, put the front bead a couple of inches high and let her rip. the lack of recoil was surreal...and so was the paper, now two very torn pieces floating in the air...jacked in another round, pulled and the half sheet on the left disappeared...jacked in another and the half sheet on the right was gone. at that point I set her down on the bench and just stared.

what's left to do when that happens?

play with the 1858 cap and ball remington of course.

so for me the high capacity mossberg bolted to the recoil compensating knoxx stock is about as good as you can do.

makes me happy.

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Old March 26, 2006, 03:20 PM   #87
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11-87P and no1 buck.
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Old April 16, 2006, 01:41 PM   #88
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Now don't get offended and pissed or anything but i just find it funny how everybody talks about home intrusion. How many of you will actuall be awake and be able to grab a gun in time to do anything. And whats the deal with the 8 and 9 shot shotguns? Do you really know what 1 round froma shotgun can do to a person? I have read these posts alot and im not poking at anybody but if everybody is such a good shot why do you need 9 shots?

One thing i never understood is why police / military / hollywood always uses PUMP shotguns. You can get more rounds out faster with a semi auto. The only reason i could see is cost. You can buy 2 possiably 3 870's for the price of 1 1187 or 1100. But that wouldent play a part for hollywood where everybody who uses them are big gangstas and such.

But just to add to it i have several shotguns, loaded, jut in case i happen to be awake IF something happens. a Remington 1187 , and 2 ithica SXS. No pumps for me thank you
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Old April 16, 2006, 03:53 PM   #89
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870 pump, pg, mounted under the bed. 4 rounds of 00 at the wait.


viper,

i think we like pump shotguns for several reasons.

1. you are correct, they are cheap.

2. there is less chance of somthing going wrong than there is with a semi.

3. it requires you to make some actual muscle movement and requires some motor function before you shoot it, so it requries you to be a bit more alert.
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Old April 16, 2006, 04:10 PM   #90
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lol Less of a chance of something going wrong? i have spent many a bird and deer seasons with guys from the hunting club and guys from the range and the only thing i have seen fail is pumps. IMO they one of the most worthless shotguns only to be beaten by the Single shot, gauge wise. I know people are going to say that well they must not clean them or dont take care of their guns for them to jam and not cycle another round. these are guys that have been hunting for 25-35+ years and know how to take care of their guns. There not cheap guns either, iv seen everything from mossbergs to remingtons to benelli (spelling) jam. on the other hand i have never had a major problem with my remington 1187 or my browning A5's. This is all just my opinion and i know people will disagree with it and i know this because thousands of pump shotguns are sold every year and people will have their favorites.
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Old April 16, 2006, 10:00 PM   #91
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Any gun can fail, but a pump shotgun (particularly an 870 Police) is as reliable as they can get. Most problems that I have seen with pump guns is people 'short stroking' the action.

I am a big fan of Benellis, but I have seen them malfunction as well...along with 1100s, 11-87s, etc...

The only real advantage to a semi-auto IMO is the rate of fire and the fact that you can fire it one-handed (if necessary) and not have to work the action.

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Old April 20, 2006, 08:57 AM   #92
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Mossberg 590 for me. I don't keep a round in the chamber but i do have the magazine loaded with 8 rounds "000" buckshot.
I have to pump it to get a round in the chamber. But the noise will tell the intruder you just messed with the wrong guy.
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Old April 20, 2006, 09:44 AM   #93
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Pump / Winchester 1300 Defender
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Old April 21, 2006, 02:05 PM   #94
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I own an 870, but my bedside SG is a Savage 720 ( Browning A-5) that holds 7+1 00 buck. I am not into making scarey noises, I am into winning the fight. Don't get me wrong the 870 is in the safe loaded with slugs, and an AR beside her. We occassionally get black bears and mountain lions wandering through. For 2 legged vermin I prefer 00 buck up close (within 25 yards). Anything else and I have time to grab the appropriate firestick, I feel a SG is a specialized weapon.
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Old April 21, 2006, 02:42 PM   #95
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Pump

Mossberg 500 "persuader" 18.5 inch barrel
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Old April 21, 2006, 06:52 PM   #96
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Mossberg 590 (50665) for me. 20" barrel, parkarized, front bead sight and speedfeed stock. I keep 4 in the tube and 4 Brenneke slugs in the stock.

My only problem is the hallways in my house are aweful narrow, so I think if I heard something go bump in the night, I would go to the alpha male in my stable of handguns for assistance.

But it sure is nice to know I have my Mossberg if I need it!
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Old April 21, 2006, 09:20 PM   #97
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In narrow hallways seems you want to hold the stock under your arm for weapon retention and more turning room. You're pretty extended when you've got the thing at your shoulder.
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Old April 22, 2006, 01:33 AM   #98
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Good reason to buy a pistol or register an AOW. I was in a bad situation once where I truly realized that having the right "tool" for the job would have been very comforting.
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Old April 23, 2006, 11:44 AM   #99
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Remington 870, leaning against the closet wall, empty but with a full butt-cuff for quick loading.

As for quotes like...
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I "racked" the shotgun several times during the tests, and no bystanders lost control of their bowels.
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The last thing I am going to do is rack a round in (to scare him)so he gets the opportunity to know where I am.
...I take into account that I live in an upper-class ruralish suburb surrounded by lots of the same. I believe that if someone DOES break in to my house, it's more likely to be some local kids getting themselves into trouble than a professional invader, and the shuck-shuck from upstairs will serve as a "less lethal" warning shot that'll make them realize this is more than a prank.

Or else it'll be some methed-up redneck...and in that case, I find it unlikely that hearing shuck-shuck echoing in a dark, unfamiliar house, while either tweaking out or jonesing for a fix, will do much to belie my position.

I'm not saying that I'm counting on the noise alone to protect myself, I'm just saying it's silly to disregard it's effectiveness just because it may not help in a worst-case scenario.
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Old April 23, 2006, 02:27 PM   #100
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but but

but if you scare 'im away you lose your opportunity for target practice.

A friend of mine says that if somebody has the balls to break into his home at night, its his civil duty to kill the bastard because if he doesn't the guy may break into an undefended home next time.
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