ever use 444 cases as 410 shells?

mo84 · April 28, 2012, 06:27 PM

I have some old 444 bullets laying around and was wondering if anyone has ever used them as 410 shells. I have been thinking about making some. Anyone have any loading recipes that would work with them or can you just use book data? If you did use them, how did they work? Thanks

Hammerhead · April 28, 2012, 06:32 PM

http://www.endtimesreport.com/410reloading.html

zippy13 · April 28, 2012, 06:53 PM

Just for clarification, you want to use 444 bullets or brass in a .410-bore shotgun? You'd be surprised, with the advent of the new combo guns, how many folks are pondering shooting 44/45 Cal bullets in .410s.

mo84 · April 28, 2012, 07:00 PM

I just want to use the empty brass, just to clearify. thanks for the link, it looks very usefull

Pathfinder45 · April 29, 2012, 01:14 AM

I have used 444 Marlin cases cut to cylinder length to make 45 Colt shotshells.

Throckmorton · April 29, 2012, 10:45 AM

a gunsith neighbor or mine has used them,but likes .303 brass better.In his derringer he had to remove some metal form the .444 brass to make the gun close.He has the tools to do it. And FYI,a .410 derringer makes a hell of a BOOM !!!

mo84 · April 29, 2012, 12:41 PM

thanks for the info, I made some up and did have to remove some brass from the rim to get them to close, nothing a flat file couldnt solve. I have shot a couple so far and they seem to work good. I have not done any pattern tests yet.

Hammerhead · April 29, 2012, 06:13 PM

I've been wanting to hand load the .410 for quite a while, but don't want to buy a shot shell press. I'm looking at buying some of the 9.3 X 74R brass because it will make full length 3" brass and all you have to do is fire form it once, trim it, then reload it over and over without having to re-size. Just a shell holder, universal decapping die and a hot glue gun is all you need. The 3" brass case should hold a max payload easily. My .410 barrel for my Handi rifle hasn't seen much use over the years. Time to change that.

April 28, 2012, 06:27 PM	#1
mo84 Senior Member Join Date: February 27, 2011 Location: Michigan Posts: 257	ever use 444 cases as 410 shells? I have some old 444 bullets laying around and was wondering if anyone has ever used them as 410 shells. I have been thinking about making some. Anyone have any loading recipes that would work with them or can you just use book data? If you did use them, how did they work? Thanks

April 29, 2012, 01:14 AM	#5
Pathfinder45 Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2008 Posts: 3,224	Not exactly, but...... I have used 444 Marlin cases cut to cylinder length to make 45 Colt shotshells.

April 29, 2012, 10:45 AM	#6
Throckmorton Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2004 Location: Washougal,Wa Posts: 126	a friend has a gunsith neighbor or mine has used them,but likes .303 brass better.In his derringer he had to remove some metal form the .444 brass to make the gun close.He has the tools to do it. And FYI,a .410 derringer makes a hell of a BOOM !!!

April 28, 2012, 06:32 PM	#2
Hammerhead Senior Member Join Date: May 31, 2004 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,432	http://www.endtimesreport.com/410reloading.html

April 28, 2012, 06:53 PM	#3
zippy13 Senior Member Join Date: August 23, 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 6,442	Just for clarification, you want to use 444 bullets or brass in a .410-bore shotgun? You'd be surprised, with the advent of the new combo guns, how many folks are pondering shooting 44/45 Cal bullets in .410s.

April 28, 2012, 07:00 PM	#4
mo84 Senior Member Join Date: February 27, 2011 Location: Michigan Posts: 257	I just want to use the empty brass, just to clearify. thanks for the link, it looks very usefull

April 29, 2012, 12:41 PM	#7
mo84 Senior Member Join Date: February 27, 2011 Location: Michigan Posts: 257	thanks for the info, I made some up and did have to remove some brass from the rim to get them to close, nothing a flat file couldnt solve. I have shot a couple so far and they seem to work good. I have not done any pattern tests yet.

April 29, 2012, 06:13 PM	#8
Hammerhead Senior Member Join Date: May 31, 2004 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,432	I've been wanting to hand load the .410 for quite a while, but don't want to buy a shot shell press. I'm looking at buying some of the 9.3 X 74R brass because it will make full length 3" brass and all you have to do is fire form it once, trim it, then reload it over and over without having to re-size. Just a shell holder, universal decapping die and a hot glue gun is all you need. The 3" brass case should hold a max payload easily. My .410 barrel for my Handi rifle hasn't seen much use over the years. Time to change that.