38\357 140 grain loads

RERICK · July 15, 2005, 10:08 AM

I want to load 140 lead bullet for 38 +p and maybe 357.My guestion is if the specific load such as in Hodgdon manual states 140 gr hdy xtp can I use a 140 grain lead instead for general practice loads? And besides jacketed ammo is purdy to look at but they ain't cheep! If anyone knows of a good load book that is lead bullet specific I'd like to know Thanks

jacobtowne · July 15, 2005, 12:26 PM

The Lyman Manual has many loads for cast bullets. Speer has a few for soft lead.
JT

adobewalls · July 15, 2005, 08:28 PM

The Lead Bullet is "softer" than the jacketed bullet, so it won't generate the same pressures as the jacketed and thus it will shoot differently. With that said, you may or may not see a difference on your target - they only way to know is to shoot it.

The one thing to watch out for with lead bullets (especially the soft lead bullets) is 'leading". If your velocity gets up to around 1050 or 1100 fps, the lead bullet may leave lead skid marks in the barrel.

artbyaccident · July 16, 2005, 12:07 AM

I agree with both jacobtowne and rerick. looking at the lyman pistol manual 17 lead specific +p loads 11 lead specific load TABLES for 357 way to much info to post. but you could check it out to see if its worth picking up a copy it has been prety useful to me.

looks like the 357 loads are all prety smokin I like to shoot lead a lot slower than that. I dont like scrubbin that hard.
just looked harder at the book and the 141g load is showing wad cutter no +p listed in 141g kinda jumped the gun there didnt I?
the 357 141g w/c HS-7 9.8 starting 1130 fps. 23200 pressure c.u.p. 11.8 max 1356 fps. 40700 pressure c.u.p.
4" barrel length
hope that helps once I looked at the post and saw that you were looking for a pretty specific load it wasnt way too much to post afterall.

Ben Shepherd · July 17, 2005, 08:36 PM

Generally (assuming very similar phisical dimentions here) you can substitue a lead slug in a jacketed slugs place with no problem.

In fact the lead slug loading most times runs easier on the gun due to lower operating pressures caused by less friction in the bore by the softer lead slug.

July 15, 2005, 10:08 AM	#1
RERICK Junior member Join Date: July 9, 2005 Posts: 369	38\357 140 grain loads I want to load 140 lead bullet for 38 +p and maybe 357.My guestion is if the specific load such as in Hodgdon manual states 140 gr hdy xtp can I use a 140 grain lead instead for general practice loads? And besides jacketed ammo is purdy to look at but they ain't cheep! If anyone knows of a good load book that is lead bullet specific I'd like to know Thanks Last edited by RERICK; July 15, 2005 at 11:30 AM. Reason: I had another thought

July 16, 2005, 12:07 AM	#4
artbyaccident Member Join Date: July 5, 2005 Location: oregon Posts: 19	I agree with both jacobtowne and rerick. looking at the lyman pistol manual 17 lead specific +p loads 11 lead specific load TABLES for 357 way to much info to post. but you could check it out to see if its worth picking up a copy it has been prety useful to me. looks like the 357 loads are all prety smokin I like to shoot lead a lot slower than that. I dont like scrubbin that hard. just looked harder at the book and the 141g load is showing wad cutter no +p listed in 141g kinda jumped the gun there didnt I? the 357 141g w/c HS-7 9.8 starting 1130 fps. 23200 pressure c.u.p. 11.8 max 1356 fps. 40700 pressure c.u.p. 4" barrel length hope that helps once I looked at the post and saw that you were looking for a pretty specific load it wasnt way too much to post afterall. Last edited by artbyaccident; July 16, 2005 at 12:27 AM. Reason: additional info

July 17, 2005, 08:36 PM	#5
Ben Shepherd Senior Member Join Date: August 11, 2001 Location: Utah Posts: 1,462	Generally (assuming very similar phisical dimentions here) you can substitue a lead slug in a jacketed slugs place with no problem. In fact the lead slug loading most times runs easier on the gun due to lower operating pressures caused by less friction in the bore by the softer lead slug. __________________ From my cold dead hands......... NRA certified rifle, pistol and shotgun instructor. Hunter education instructor

July 15, 2005, 12:26 PM	#2
jacobtowne Senior Member Join Date: July 14, 2005 Location: New England Posts: 277	The Lyman Manual has many loads for cast bullets. Speer has a few for soft lead. JT

July 15, 2005, 08:28 PM	#3
adobewalls Member Join Date: June 27, 2005 Posts: 17	The Lead Bullet is "softer" than the jacketed bullet, so it won't generate the same pressures as the jacketed and thus it will shoot differently. With that said, you may or may not see a difference on your target - they only way to know is to shoot it. The one thing to watch out for with lead bullets (especially the soft lead bullets) is 'leading". If your velocity gets up to around 1050 or 1100 fps, the lead bullet may leave lead skid marks in the barrel.