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March 5, 2012, 02:13 PM | #26 | |
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March 5, 2012, 02:46 PM | #27 |
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As a Brit is difficult to comment on US Law - probably because I don't know anything about it!
As a former soldier who spent 6 years in Northern Ireland where the locals could be very hostile to us, I can emphathise with the 'gang bangers' scenario. We offered a simple phrase that it was 'better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6'. What it means is that if you have that right to self defence using lethal force, then have the moral courage to shoot to kill in a confrontation where your life is on the line. Afterward stand up before 12 of your peers in court and say with conviction that you shot the other person to save your own life. |
March 6, 2012, 10:40 AM | #28 | |
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I'm not understanding why the Texas law on deadly force in defense of property is relevant to this thread? And incidentally, the part of Texas law that you quoted is Section 9.42 of the Penal Code, not Section 9.41 (which deals with non-deadly force to protect property). |
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March 6, 2012, 12:41 PM | #29 | |
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that deadly force may be used withiout one being in fear of serious bodily injury. I would venture to guess that probably a lot of people believe that it should be required before deadly force be used in all cases. I won't take either side of that, just try to understand the laws I must folllow where I live or travel, pertaining to use of deadly force. |
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March 6, 2012, 01:48 PM | #30 |
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Just my two cents on this thread as a LEO. I 100% agree with the earlier poster on this thread about those extremely stupid CCW badges. Also, one thing you need to remember regarding multiple assailants and gang-bangers when dealing with them is that they are going to "lie like hell", even under oath, about what happened. Food for thought. Oh and one other small issue I have with this thread. Every LEO and criminal attorney knows about the Tennesee vs. Garner decision, it's taught in every law enforcement academy in the U.S. and I would assume, every law school as well.
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March 6, 2012, 11:25 PM | #31 |
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Another thought... the prosecutor gets to decide what is reasonable and if his definition doesn't align with yours, 12 jurors get to decide and in many cases these folks wont be gun people and will know nothing about self defense and the law.
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