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May 17, 2017, 09:36 PM | #51 | |
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May 18, 2017, 01:44 PM | #52 | |
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You keep quoting energy numbers like it is from a religious text. How much energy does it take to kill a deer? It takes darn little energy to break neck bones if you can hit them. How much does trajectory play into your hunting experience? It plays a great deal into my hunting. I'm not interested in the numbers, I just want to be able to hit what I aim at with enough bullet to kill cleanly. Those energy values don't mean spit. |
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May 18, 2017, 02:08 PM | #53 | |
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that is planning for the ideal situation (even if it is the most likely scenario) in an ideal situation I think the what if is more important, hence I have a problem with handgun, bowhunting and so on. if you believe that 20-70 meters is what you are most likely to encounter and/or set out to do the rifle and the optic you chose should (in my opinion) be what matters most not calibre |
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May 18, 2017, 04:01 PM | #54 |
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Mr Pond:You might look at the post by Old Stony "Where to shoot a hog" here in the HUNT category.
A fair number of these were taken with a 6.5 Grendel,which is pretty much your 7.62x39 necked down. Some were using a 123 gr bullet. These folks have shot a LOT of hogs. Actually...with one exception,that being a 44 Magnum handgun,the smallest rifle I have taken big game with is my .257 Ackley.ts only a 115 gr bullet,but at 3000 + fps. I have not used a 7.62x39 to shoot any game. So,I can express my concerns,but not my experience. While I might not select a 7.62 x 39 for anything larger or tougher than a deer,myself....Karamojo Bell killed thousands of elephants with a 7x57. If you are shooting from 20 to 70 yards,if you can hit an apple at that range,and if you know the anatomy of your beast,and if you can keep from pullng the trigger until you KNOW your bullet will hit the right place, suppose its possible to cleanly kill a moose or boar with your rifle. You will just have a narrow margin to live up to. The 10 ring! |
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And if your issue is with the trajectory, what relevance is the discussion of .300 BLK or 7.62x39 being weaker rounds? This is the first time I've seen you mention trajectory in three different threads where you have made this comment. |
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However, despite note being ideal, I'd like to know what each could do if the need arose. I do plan on getting my hunting licence and I would probably use the 550 from a stand. Failing that I have a semi 12g and a single shot 16g which would also do the job in wooded conditions. But, the fact remains I'd like an idea of what the 858 can do if ever it needed to rise to the challenge. Quote:
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