CZ-75 Pre-B Magazine

Skarekrow88 · November 6, 2020, 12:08 PM

Just picked up a 1982 CZ-75 on a whim because it was the last one they had and I always wanted one. It was $50 cheaper because it didn’t come with a magazine and I assumed that it couldn’t be that hard to find one or one that would be compatible at least. I was wrong, based on my after-the-fact research the Pre-B magazines are sold out everywhere I can find them and I’ve read that the older than ‘92 Pre-B pistols won’t accept the newer magazines.

Anyone have any luck finding compatible mags or could someone point me in the direction of a Pre-B magazine?

hub1home · November 6, 2020, 01:02 PM

Have you contacted CZ and asked them if they have any or where can you get them?

T. O'Heir · November 6, 2020, 02:03 PM

Have a look here.
https://www.cz-parts.com/cz-magazine...tibility-guide
And here.
https://czcustom.com/cz-parts-all/ma...magazines.html

10-96 · November 6, 2020, 05:37 PM

Found 34 of them in stock... but in S. Africa. Not sure what it would take to get them shipped here. https://specialarmory.com/product/cz...16rd-magazine/

10-96 · November 6, 2020, 05:41 PM

The reviews say this one from Buds fits the Pre-B's like a charm. https://www.budsgunshop.com/product_...mm+blued+steel

sevt_chevelle · November 6, 2020, 06:29 PM

Not all Pre B are the same, so you can throw out any information you find about fitting out the window IMO.
I had 2 Pre B at one time, a mid 80's and a 93, the 93 can take the newer mag, the 80's version did not, so it went down the road. I know of others that have 92-95 Pre B that wont accept the newer mag.

I don't own any to check the measurements, but supposedly the 18 rd mags are slightly narrower and can sometimes fit a Pre B.

volkstrm · November 6, 2020, 09:07 PM

Try CDNN or Top Gun.

Skarekrow88 · November 6, 2020, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Have you contacted CZ and asked them if they have any or where can you get them?

I have, and they do currently make Pre-B magazines but they are out of stock right now and have no idea when they will be back.

**Aguila Blanca** · November 6, 2020, 10:20 PM

Cajun Gunworks, maybe?

https://cajungunworks.com/

Polinese · November 6, 2020, 11:53 PM

I had a pre-b and my gunsmith was able to just widen the top of the magazine well on the frame to accept the newer magazines and it worked fine.

DMY · November 7, 2020, 01:46 AM

This is a longshot, but I was in Houston, TX recrntly. Went to Collector's Firearms which had some CZ mags. I don't know whether they ship, but it's worth a call. Prices are competitive.

Bake · November 7, 2020, 02:07 AM

Before the CZ-75s were allowed in this country, Action Arms imported a Swiss clone, called AT-84. Exactly like the 75, but had a better finish. There was also acouple Italian clones, that were used in USPSA back in the day. . .

jonnyc · November 7, 2020, 10:21 AM

I think I now have 6 mags for my Pre-B, took a few months to accomplish. Originally one of them was too tight and I just sanded the s**t out of it. Works fine now. If you have any area gun shows, take the frame and see if any dealers have CZ75 mags you can try. If any are close you might be able to make it fit.

Japle · November 7, 2020, 07:53 PM

I have an Israeli police-surplus BUL Storm that takes slightly different mags from the usual CZ-75. Not sure if it's the same as the Pre-B, but finding mags for it was a hassle.
If anyone knows if it's the same as the Pre-B, please let me know. I'd like a few more mags.
EDIT: The 16-round small-frame Witness mags work. The 17-round large-frame mags don't.

JDBerg · November 9, 2020, 01:39 AM

OP, I’d tear into whoever sold you that Pre-B without mags, they knew the darn things are discontinued and possibly permanently back ordered. If Greg Cote LLC can’t get them, you’re going to be scrounging the spare mag bins at every LGS and gun show darn near everywhere! Stuff like this is enough to Tick Me Off!

veprdude · November 9, 2020, 02:29 AM

Would someone post a known good pic of a Pre-B magazine? I have a large bag of CZ75 and only a 75B to test them with.

Destructo6 · November 9, 2020, 08:28 AM

gunmagwarehouse claims to have them in stock for $41.

jonnyc · November 10, 2020, 09:47 AM

"Would someone post a known good pic of a Pre-B magazine? I have a large bag of CZ75 and only a 75B to test them with."

You can't tell them apart by looking, it's a small dimensional difference.

makarov · November 13, 2020, 10:42 PM

Have you tried using the 75/85 mags? I have an 85 Combat and a pre-B and I think I have used mags interchangeable between them. Plus some other Mec-Gar mags I bought later on. I'm not sure what year my pre-B is though.

railroader · November 14, 2020, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonnyc

"Would someone post a known good pic of a Pre-B magazine? I have a large bag of CZ75 and only a 75B to test them with."

You can't tell them apart by looking, it's a small dimensional difference.

Here's a pic of some pre b mags.

steves2 · November 14, 2020, 10:27 PM

As someone said earlier, not all pre-Bs are the same.
Proper pre-Bs take a magazine that is narrower at the top that more recent CZ 75s.
A good place for CZ mags is Greg Cote LLC from Florida. They stock pre-B mags, but they are often out of stock.
There are also some magazines for SP-01s that fit the older pre-Bs. Have a look on the descriptions of what models the magazines fit.

DMY · November 15, 2020, 01:57 PM

Just so you know, the mags I recently bought were in a CZ wrapper and the label was marked for a CZ 75, SP-01, and Shadow. The mag itself is chrome and stamped 9mm on one side and .40 on the other side. It holds the stated number of rounds and ejects and locks the slide back after the last round is fired from my SP-01.

November 6, 2020, 12:08 PM	#1
Skarekrow88 Senior Member Join Date: March 26, 2013 Location: Alabama Posts: 332	CZ-75 Pre-B Magazine Just picked up a 1982 CZ-75 on a whim because it was the last one they had and I always wanted one. It was $50 cheaper because it didn’t come with a magazine and I assumed that it couldn’t be that hard to find one or one that would be compatible at least. I was wrong, based on my after-the-fact research the Pre-B magazines are sold out everywhere I can find them and I’ve read that the older than ‘92 Pre-B pistols won’t accept the newer magazines. Anyone have any luck finding compatible mags or could someone point me in the direction of a Pre-B magazine? __________________ "A life fought for others is a life worth living"

November 6, 2020, 02:03 PM	#3
T. O'Heir Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 12,453	Have a look here. https://www.cz-parts.com/cz-magazine...tibility-guide And here. https://czcustom.com/cz-parts-all/ma...magazines.html __________________ Spelling and grammar count!

November 6, 2020, 05:37 PM	#4
10-96 Senior Member Join Date: October 19, 2005 Location: Tx Panhandle Territory Posts: 4,160	Found 34 of them in stock... but in S. Africa. Not sure what it would take to get them shipped here. https://specialarmory.com/product/cz...16rd-magazine/ __________________ Rednecks... Keeping the woods critter-free since March 2, 1836. (TX Independence Day) I suspect a thing or two... because I've seen a thing or two.

November 6, 2020, 05:41 PM	#5
10-96 Senior Member Join Date: October 19, 2005 Location: Tx Panhandle Territory Posts: 4,160	The reviews say this one from Buds fits the Pre-B's like a charm. https://www.budsgunshop.com/product_...mm+blued+steel __________________ Rednecks... Keeping the woods critter-free since March 2, 1836. (TX Independence Day) I suspect a thing or two... because I've seen a thing or two.

November 6, 2020, 10:20 PM	#9
Aguila Blanca Staff Join Date: September 25, 2008 Location: CONUS Posts: 18,471	Cajun Gunworks, maybe? https://cajungunworks.com/ __________________ NRA Life Member / Certified Instructor NRA Chief RSO / CMP RSO 1911 Certified Armorer Jeepaholic

November 6, 2020, 01:02 PM	#2
hub1home Senior Member Join Date: November 15, 2014 Posts: 182	Have you contacted CZ and asked them if they have any or where can you get them?

November 6, 2020, 06:29 PM	#6
sevt_chevelle Senior Member Join Date: April 13, 2013 Posts: 324	Not all Pre B are the same, so you can throw out any information you find about fitting out the window IMO. I had 2 Pre B at one time, a mid 80's and a 93, the 93 can take the newer mag, the 80's version did not, so it went down the road. I know of others that have 92-95 Pre B that wont accept the newer mag. I don't own any to check the measurements, but supposedly the 18 rd mags are slightly narrower and can sometimes fit a Pre B.

November 6, 2020, 09:07 PM	#7
volkstrm Senior Member Join Date: November 10, 2007 Posts: 222	Try CDNN or Top Gun.

November 6, 2020, 11:53 PM	#10
Polinese Senior Member Join Date: September 27, 2010 Posts: 949	I had a pre-b and my gunsmith was able to just widen the top of the magazine well on the frame to accept the newer magazines and it worked fine.

November 7, 2020, 01:46 AM	#11
DMY Senior Member Join Date: September 10, 2015 Posts: 152	This is a longshot, but I was in Houston, TX recrntly. Went to Collector's Firearms which had some CZ mags. I don't know whether they ship, but it's worth a call. Prices are competitive.

November 7, 2020, 02:07 AM	#12
Bake Senior Member Join Date: November 11, 2012 Location: San Joaquin Valley, Calif. Posts: 482	Before the CZ-75s were allowed in this country, Action Arms imported a Swiss clone, called AT-84. Exactly like the 75, but had a better finish. There was also acouple Italian clones, that were used in USPSA back in the day. . . __________________ 1. The pattern board is your friend, use the Dam thing!!! 2. The maximum range of a firearm and/or cartridge, is usually measured in miles, and means nothing. 2a. The effective range of a firearm and/or cartridge, is usually (the ability of the shooter) measured in yards, and means everything. Last edited by Bake; November 7, 2020 at 02:22 AM.

November 7, 2020, 10:21 AM	#13
jonnyc Senior Member Join Date: July 20, 2009 Location: PA Posts: 1,731	I think I now have 6 mags for my Pre-B, took a few months to accomplish. Originally one of them was too tight and I just sanded the s**t out of it. Works fine now. If you have any area gun shows, take the frame and see if any dealers have CZ75 mags you can try. If any are close you might be able to make it fit. __________________ 2024 PA Cartridge Collector Show; Aug. 16-17, 2024!!! Buy...Sell...Trade All Types of Ammunition & Ordnance PM or email me for 2024 show details.

November 7, 2020, 07:53 PM	#14
Japle Senior Member Join Date: October 12, 2004 Location: Viera, Florida Posts: 1,340	I have an Israeli police-surplus BUL Storm that takes slightly different mags from the usual CZ-75. Not sure if it's the same as the Pre-B, but finding mags for it was a hassle. If anyone knows if it's the same as the Pre-B, please let me know. I'd like a few more mags. EDIT: The 16-round small-frame Witness mags work. The 17-round large-frame mags don't. Last edited by Japle; November 9, 2020 at 07:19 PM.

November 9, 2020, 01:39 AM	#15
JDBerg Senior Member Join Date: May 18, 2015 Location: PA Posts: 1,835	OP, I’d tear into whoever sold you that Pre-B without mags, they knew the darn things are discontinued and possibly permanently back ordered. If Greg Cote LLC can’t get them, you’re going to be scrounging the spare mag bins at every LGS and gun show darn near everywhere! Stuff like this is enough to Tick Me Off! __________________ Words to Live By: Before You Pray - Believe; Before You Speak - Listen; Before You Spend - Earn; Before You Write - Think; Before You Quit - Try; Before You Die - Live

November 9, 2020, 02:29 AM	#16
veprdude Senior Member Join Date: March 18, 2019 Location: Texas Posts: 430	Would someone post a known good pic of a Pre-B magazine? I have a large bag of CZ75 and only a 75B to test them with.

November 9, 2020, 08:28 AM	#17
Destructo6 Senior Member Join Date: March 18, 1999 Location: Nogales, AZ USA Posts: 4,001	gunmagwarehouse claims to have them in stock for $41. __________________ God gave you a soul. Your parents, a body. Your country, a rifle. Keep all of them clean.

November 10, 2020, 09:47 AM	#18
jonnyc Senior Member Join Date: July 20, 2009 Location: PA Posts: 1,731	"Would someone post a known good pic of a Pre-B magazine? I have a large bag of CZ75 and only a 75B to test them with." You can't tell them apart by looking, it's a small dimensional difference. __________________ 2024 PA Cartridge Collector Show; Aug. 16-17, 2024!!! Buy...Sell...Trade All Types of Ammunition & Ordnance PM or email me for 2024 show details.

November 13, 2020, 10:42 PM	#19
makarov Senior Member Join Date: January 27, 2000 Location: Washington State Posts: 709	Have you tried using the 75/85 mags? I have an 85 Combat and a pre-B and I think I have used mags interchangeable between them. Plus some other Mec-Gar mags I bought later on. I'm not sure what year my pre-B is though. __________________ "Where Zen ends, asskicking begins" - Hyde - That 70's Show

November 14, 2020, 10:27 PM	#21
steves2 Member Join Date: January 7, 2013 Location: Tennessee. Posts: 18	As someone said earlier, not all pre-Bs are the same. Proper pre-Bs take a magazine that is narrower at the top that more recent CZ 75s. A good place for CZ mags is Greg Cote LLC from Florida. They stock pre-B mags, but they are often out of stock. There are also some magazines for SP-01s that fit the older pre-Bs. Have a look on the descriptions of what models the magazines fit. __________________ What kind of country are we becoming? The 'truth' has become lies that others keep repeating.

November 15, 2020, 01:57 PM	#22
DMY Senior Member Join Date: September 10, 2015 Posts: 152	Just so you know, the mags I recently bought were in a CZ wrapper and the label was marked for a CZ 75, SP-01, and Shadow. The mag itself is chrome and stamped 9mm on one side and .40 on the other side. It holds the stated number of rounds and ejects and locks the slide back after the last round is fired from my SP-01.