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November 22, 2020, 11:02 AM | #1 |
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Stoeger Inertia semi: Cutting barrel and reliability?
Thanks for the anwers on the semi auto barrel reduction. I'm loving the Beretta 1301 but now have my eyes on adding a Stoeger M3000 12ga in with compact stock. Has a 26" barrel and my loved 13" LOP.
If I send it off to Rose Action Sport for a barrel cut/thread down to 20" (or wherever the rib allows), would this affect reliability? How much does shot "dwell" in the barrel matter in an inertia gun when the factory barrel is reduced? I emailed Stoeger because they offer to cut your barrel (for about $200 under "Services"), but they haven't responded. |
November 22, 2020, 01:05 PM | #2 |
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I can't imagine it would effect the action. I have a Beretta FP1201 with a 20" barrel and it operates flawlessly. Inertia action shotguns seem more sensitive to adding weight on the gun.
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November 22, 2020, 02:52 PM | #3 |
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Awesome. Thank you!
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Generally speaking when you go shorter than the design calls for they still work with more powerful ammo, but maybe not with low powered shells But to be fair this is far more critical with gas operated guns than inertia. In theory it should work with this gun, but I'd not be the one to be the product tester in order to find out. Short answer is that I don't know for sure. Before I cut it, I'd want to find someone who has actually done it and see how it worked for them. You see a lot of guys cut barrels on pump's and even doubles. But there is a reason it doesn't happen much with semi's
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November 22, 2020, 06:36 PM | #5 | |
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November 24, 2020, 11:38 AM | #6 |
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Do we know if there is a different set up between the 24, 26, and 28 inch barrelled M3000s that would do better at being reduced to 20" or would all be expected to have the same components? The "compact" only comes in a 26" barrel, but that only changes the butt stock which can be purchased separately--don't matter.
I know the M3000 comes in the "Freedom" 18" barrel line, but those barrels do not have a vent rib that I want. Stoeger hasn't responded to my question yet. Think it is all up to you fine people to help answer |
November 24, 2020, 04:41 PM | #7 | ||
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Inertia system shotguns do not like things that soften the recoil impulse, like soft recoil pads, firing from the hip, soft bulky clothing, etc. Cutting a barrel will not affect the operation since they are recoil operated. But if you get shy of being abused and try to put a soft pad on it, you may find it will start to choke. It is imperative that the buttstock be firmly supported when firing, otherwise the whole gun moves under recoil and there is no difference in velocity between the bolt and receiver.
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November 24, 2020, 06:03 PM | #8 | |
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Your statement about inertia guns is 100% correct. I have a Benelli M1 Super 90. It's a single shot if one tries to fire it from the hip. From the shoulder 100% |
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November 25, 2020, 10:18 AM | #9 |
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Steve Rose at Rose Action Sports really answered in spades but gives pause too:
"Choke tube threading in the cut down Stoeger barrel will depend on the barrel thickness, some of those M3000 barrels are thinned in the midsection. To accept Rem-Choke or Mossberg Accu-choke threading the outside diameter of the barrel at the spot it is cut off (the new muzzle) must be .845” or larger. If the diameter is between .825” to .844” it can often be threaded for Tru-Choke tubes." That almost sounds like it's a chance it won't be able to be threaded? |
November 25, 2020, 03:49 PM | #10 |
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Rose Action Sports updated that the M3000 barrel at 19-21" will *likely* not be thick enough for chokes.
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November 25, 2020, 06:50 PM | #11 |
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I assume a 20" barrel would be for home defense? If so, no chokes needed.
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November 26, 2020, 10:50 AM | #13 |
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I just like the shorter barrels. Aesthetics of a shorter barrel with a rib is the bee's knees to me.
But without a choke, the options are too restricted. Sigh. |
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