New Brass

Maximus · March 13, 2009, 03:21 PM

Ok, got a question is regards to loading up new Winchester brass, some say it's necessary to full length size new brass, others say its optional. What's the verdict?

albsch · March 13, 2009, 03:49 PM

I size all new brass. This ensures that it is the proper fit and any slight deformities are removed. This also give me an opportunity to inspect each case. I size using a single stage press for the first timie also.

jamaica · March 13, 2009, 04:25 PM

I too size new brass. FWIW

Hunter04 · March 13, 2009, 04:28 PM

Sizing new brass is always a good idea

Flapjack23 · March 13, 2009, 05:19 PM

I find that it removes all the dings and dents from transportation and storage, plus I get to inspect them.

James R. Burke · March 13, 2009, 06:36 PM

I also resize new stuff no matter what it is. They are right you can get a real good look at it during that time.

That'll Do · March 13, 2009, 06:41 PM

I resize new brass too.

FrankenMauser · March 13, 2009, 08:13 PM

Rifle brass, yes. (I essentially neck size. Not really a FL sizing.)

Pistols, no. I bell the mouth and load as needed.

Inspector3711 · March 13, 2009, 08:49 PM

I've done both. After finding out one lot didn't fit in my .25-06 I learned the hard way. Now I FL size all new brass.

Sevens · March 13, 2009, 11:23 PM

It's silly not to size new brass. If it just happens to be out of spec, it'll cause you more grief later. If it's rifle brass and the case mouth is a little out of spec, maybe it doesn't hold your bullet properly... you won't find out until you've already primed it and charged it with powder. Or maybe the case is slightly large in size, or out of round... maybe it doesn't want to chamber without force. Now, instead of looking at a piece of charged and primed brass while at your bench, you are at the rifle range or (worse) in the field staring at a game animal. Maybe your rifle is tied up because of it, maybe not.

What if it's pistol brass? Perhaps it hasn't been sized to spec and you don't have all the bullet tension you need/expect. And when your pistol self-chucks the next round, maybe you get some bullet setback. You won't see it, it's already shucked in there, in the chamber. Pull the trigger and whatever your load was, the pressure has increased exponentially as there's less room inside the brass.

I'd size any brass. Size the new brass... and size any brass that you happen to buy in a lot of used brass. You never know which have been decapped with a universal decapper and not actually sized. But you WILL find out which ones fit that description... either later at the bench, or at the range.

T. O'Heir · March 14, 2009, 01:48 AM

All new rifle brass must be checked for lenght, FL sized, trimmed to the same length, then chamfered and deburred.

45Marlin carbine · March 14, 2009, 05:41 AM

when loading new brass for my 'good' stuff -i.e. hunting loads and serious target I use a flash hole de-bur tool also. you'll be surprised what comes out of there. just another minute of prep time.

TheNatureBoy · March 14, 2009, 06:14 AM

Same here. I resize, deburr, chamffer as if the brass were fired.

FrankenMauser · March 15, 2009, 12:21 AM

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What if it's pistol brass? Perhaps it hasn't been sized to spec and you don't have all the bullet tension you need/expect. And when your pistol self-chucks the next round, maybe you get some bullet setback. You won't see it, it's already shucked in there, in the chamber...

I load patiently and carefully on a single stage press. If I notice a change in neck tension, I set the case aside. ...Having new pistol brass give me issues with neck tension.... is very, very rare.

It's still good advice to suggest sizing everything. For me, it's just wasted time.

Jim243 · March 15, 2009, 01:15 AM

All rifle brass (yes), pistol brass 38 spl 357 mag (yes) all other pistol new cases (no), once fired (yes) you have to to deprime them.

March 13, 2009, 03:21 PM	#1
Maximus Member Join Date: January 10, 2005 Location: Land of Isolation Posts: 19	New Brass Ok, got a question is regards to loading up new Winchester brass, some say it's necessary to full length size new brass, others say its optional. What's the verdict? __________________ Berettas RULE!!!

March 13, 2009, 08:49 PM	#9
Inspector3711 Senior Member Join Date: February 9, 2008 Location: Puget Sound Washington Posts: 1,553	I've done both. After finding out one lot didn't fit in my .25-06 I learned the hard way. Now I FL size all new brass. __________________ "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." The Dalai Llama (5/15/01, The Seattle Times) "That rifle on the wall of the labourer's cottage or working class flat is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there." George Orwell

March 13, 2009, 11:23 PM	#10
Sevens Senior Member Join Date: July 28, 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 11,756	It's silly not to size new brass. If it just happens to be out of spec, it'll cause you more grief later. If it's rifle brass and the case mouth is a little out of spec, maybe it doesn't hold your bullet properly... you won't find out until you've already primed it and charged it with powder. Or maybe the case is slightly large in size, or out of round... maybe it doesn't want to chamber without force. Now, instead of looking at a piece of charged and primed brass while at your bench, you are at the rifle range or (worse) in the field staring at a game animal. Maybe your rifle is tied up because of it, maybe not. What if it's pistol brass? Perhaps it hasn't been sized to spec and you don't have all the bullet tension you need/expect. And when your pistol self-chucks the next round, maybe you get some bullet setback. You won't see it, it's already shucked in there, in the chamber. Pull the trigger and whatever your load was, the pressure has increased exponentially as there's less room inside the brass. I'd size any brass. Size the new brass... and size any brass that you happen to buy in a lot of used brass. You never know which have been decapped with a universal decapper and not actually sized. But you WILL find out which ones fit that description... either later at the bench, or at the range. __________________ *Attention Brass rats and other reloaders:* I really need .327 Federal Magnum brass, no lot size too small. Tell me what caliber you need and I'll see what I have to swap. PM me and we'll discuss.

March 14, 2009, 01:48 AM	#11
T. O'Heir Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 12,453	All new rifle brass must be checked for lenght, FL sized, trimmed to the same length, then chamfered and deburred. __________________ Spelling and grammar count!

March 13, 2009, 03:49 PM	#2
albsch Member Join Date: July 13, 2008 Location: Illinois Posts: 32	I size all new brass. This ensures that it is the proper fit and any slight deformities are removed. This also give me an opportunity to inspect each case. I size using a single stage press for the first timie also.

March 13, 2009, 04:25 PM	#3
jamaica Senior Member Join Date: March 24, 2006 Location: Northern Utah Posts: 705	I too size new brass. FWIW

March 13, 2009, 04:28 PM	#4
Hunter04 Junior Member Join Date: March 13, 2009 Posts: 13	Sizing new brass is always a good idea

March 13, 2009, 05:19 PM	#5
Flapjack23 Senior Member Join Date: January 12, 2009 Location: Yale MI Posts: 163	I find that it removes all the dings and dents from transportation and storage, plus I get to inspect them.

March 13, 2009, 06:36 PM	#6
James R. Burke Senior Member Join Date: January 3, 2009 Location: U.P. of Mich/Quinnesec Posts: 1,897	I also resize new stuff no matter what it is. They are right you can get a real good look at it during that time.

March 13, 2009, 06:41 PM	#7
That'll Do Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 546	I resize new brass too.

March 13, 2009, 08:13 PM	#8
FrankenMauser Senior Member Join Date: August 25, 2008 Location: In the valley above the plain Posts: 13,424	Rifle brass, yes. (I essentially neck size. Not really a FL sizing.) Pistols, no. I bell the mouth and load as needed.

March 14, 2009, 05:41 AM	#12
45Marlin carbine Junior member Join Date: January 26, 2007 Location: South-Western North Carolina Posts: 1,124	when loading new brass for my 'good' stuff -i.e. hunting loads and serious target I use a flash hole de-bur tool also. you'll be surprised what comes out of there. just another minute of prep time.

March 14, 2009, 06:14 AM	#13
TheNatureBoy Senior Member Join Date: September 6, 2007 Posts: 1,204	Same here. I resize, deburr, chamffer as if the brass were fired.

March 15, 2009, 01:15 AM	#15
Jim243 Senior Member Join Date: January 5, 2009 Location: Just off Route 66 Posts: 5,067	All rifle brass (yes), pistol brass 38 spl 357 mag (yes) all other pistol new cases (no), once fired (yes) you have to to deprime them.