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Old February 13, 2019, 09:35 PM   #26
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Butina

Could this lady be a conduit for dark money into US elections? All this mess has to do with influencing our elections. Sorry, I take offense at these attempts. It is a big deal to see where that buck stops. How many of our institutions are under direct attack by Russia.
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Old February 14, 2019, 08:21 AM   #27
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Ugh - I am a sucker for redheads
Hopefully I will never be entrusted with state secrets.
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Old February 14, 2019, 08:57 AM   #28
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Yes, let’s see how salaried government employees that hold the position for only a few short years become fantastically wealthy.

Who’s been contacted by Russia here to get you to vote for an issue or politician that you already supported?
The whole Russia thing is a hoax, a farce, a red herring to fool the gullible.
I’m a left leaning moderate that doesn’t even like the current President, nor do I fully support the NRA. I do donate to the NRA from time to time because I do believe in gun rights and the second amendment.
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Old February 14, 2019, 07:54 PM   #29
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Lock her up.

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Old February 16, 2019, 11:03 AM   #30
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Not to be forgotten is the Butina pled guilty to criminal charges as a foreign agent.
After being denied bail and held in solitary confinement for 96 days. I wonder how many here would take that plea if the worst thing that happened was they would be free to return to the land of their birth? I’d bet more than a few would take it even though they have homes and rights at stake here. Or you can always stay in solitary while our justice system delivers your “speedy trial.”
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Old February 16, 2019, 11:42 AM   #31
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It appears that Putin might have just upped the ante in Butina's spy case.

"Russia detains prominent U.S. investor based in Moscow on fraud charges."

"Michael Calvey is a least the third westerner to face adverse action by Russia's justice system in the past two months."

Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/15/b...ed-russia.html
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Old February 16, 2019, 03:20 PM   #32
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Tit for tat.

Of course, the U.S. has never done anything like that.
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Old February 16, 2019, 03:36 PM   #33
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Hoax?

I suppose all the evidence of Russian hacking into our elections is a hoax? How about the big wheels going to the slammer related to this Russian hoax. I'd say the Russian RKBA is a hoax of hoaxes. I'd like to see some hard ass real world evidence of a RKBA in the former Soviet Union. What did the Judge say about Mannofort? Is the judge a stooge of the left. Also, a victim of the left is Stone. Gimme a break! Remember, question about the NRA and dark money surfaced before Russia Gate.
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Old February 16, 2019, 04:48 PM   #34
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Manafort's convictions had nothing to do with the Russian "meddling." They were akin to Al Capone -- tax-related. It remains to be seen what Roger Stone will actually be charged with.

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I suppose all the evidence of Russian hacking into our elections is a hoax?
What evidence?
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Old February 16, 2019, 05:33 PM   #35
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I suppose all the evidence of Russian hacking into our elections is a hoax?
What evidence is there of “Russia hacking into our elections?” Or do you considered buying targeted ads on Facebook to be hacking?

Manafort was convicted of tax evasion that predated his involvement in the Trump campaign and related to his work in the Ukraine.

Stone was indicted on six charges of lying to Congress regarding his contacts with Julian Assange, and one count of obstruction as a result of the lies.

Russian attempts to influence our elections (and vice versa) are not new or unusual; but if we’re going to discuss the links, we should probably stick to a factual basis.
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Old February 16, 2019, 07:02 PM   #36
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How did what!

This Russia "Hoax" may very well make Mike Pense President. What income was Mannafort hiding? Lame very lame.
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Old February 16, 2019, 08:00 PM   #37
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What evidence is there of “Russia hacking into our elections?” Or do you considered buying targeted ads on Facebook to be hacking?
J.G. Terry, you haven't answered the question.
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Old February 16, 2019, 08:40 PM   #38
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What....A Coverup?

I'm not sure I follow. There was no hacking of the DNC? There was no purge of FB due to fake stuff from the former USSR. The interventions/hacking into our state elections were phony.

Are you so-called right wingers nothing but active agents for the Communist worldwide take over? I know where the real cover-up is going on. Thanks Comrade White.

Ms. Butina fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down!
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Old February 17, 2019, 12:58 PM   #39
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Rather political and really not gun related. Wait for the tabloids and perhaps a centerfold appearance in the American Rifleman (sorry).

Just a PS, though - https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/18/polit...ers/index.html

Looks like Wayne is trying to throw others under the bus.

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