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Old January 23, 2019, 11:06 PM   #26
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There is supposedly a good shop in Indiana.
There is a place called The Vault. Decent selection, fair pricing.
Note, even though they are cheap, stay away from their sporterized Mausers.

There is Sportsmans Discount in Johnstown. Lots of used rifles there.
I dang near bought a stainless Modle 7 in 7mm RSAUM.

Grice's in Clearfield. Ton of used guns. Price, ehhh.
www.gricegunshop.com

I've been buying my firearms from Belding & Mull in Philipsburg the past couple of years.
Great people, really great pricing!
Thanks for the leads, I'll be sure to check them out! Just curious, has anyone bought from Cheaper than Dirt? If anyone has can you provide good/bad feedback? Thanks!
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Old January 23, 2019, 11:31 PM   #27
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Thanks for the leads, I'll be sure to check them out! Just curious, has anyone bought from Cheaper than Dirt? If anyone has can you provide good/bad feedback? Thanks!
Cheaper Than Dirt? You just said the forum equivalent of the "F" word. They are not well liked for some of the stunts they pulled during the ammo shortage and potential gun bans after Sandy Hook. Do a search here. I will say no more because I don't want to get your thread closed.

If you aren't signed up at Gunbroker then sign up and start watching the auctions for the guns you are interested in. Be patient. What you are looking for will sooner or later turn up. In the mean time save more money to increase your options.
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Old January 23, 2019, 11:37 PM   #28
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Pardon my ignorance, I didn't realize they had such a bad reputation. I just happened to scroll across them while looking around online. I'm not signed up at GunBroker, I'll check it out.

I'm in no big rush. Hunting season is basically over and I have my .30-30 to use. I'm just looking for something a little different, I get bored of shooting the same gun all the time.
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Old January 24, 2019, 05:03 PM   #29
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Prices at CTD are ok. I've never ordered anything from them.
Also note your paying shipping, and the gun shop where you pick it up from charges more for the paperwork/ background check than if you just bought it there.
Comes out a wash.
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Old January 24, 2019, 05:07 PM   #30
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PA Joe you don't have to sign up at GB to cruise around and look. When you get there go to the pull down tab called Browse and select rifles, then bolt action rifles and it will help a lot with making your search easier for what you are looking for without a lot of extra stuff listed.

No pardon needed for the CTD miscue. They pulled some stunts that left a bad taste in everyones mouth. Like when ARs prices went crazy they pull all of theirs and a couple of days later had them listed for 3-4 times the prior price. They had .380 ammo that was $10 a box repriced to $50 a box. And did this across the board during the shortage and panic. They scalped new guys trying to buy a gun and ammo. Most hoped they would go under. Including me.
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Old January 24, 2019, 05:21 PM   #31
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here is a link to just the Savage bolt actions. 34 pages full with prices all over the map. I like the older ones without the Accutrigger. The older Savage trigger models are the ones I prefer.

https://www.gunbroker.com/Bolt-Actio...action&Sort=13

One of my favorites.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/797367805
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Old January 24, 2019, 06:58 PM   #32
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The fun is in the looking, keep looking and have fun !!!
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Old January 24, 2019, 09:59 PM   #33
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here is a link to just the Savage bolt actions. 34 pages full with prices all over the map. I like the older ones without the Accutrigger. The older Savage trigger models are the ones I prefer.

https://www.gunbroker.com/Bolt-Actio...action&Sort=13

One of my favorites.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/797367805
Yeah I was unaware of CTD's price hike stunt. I'm always kinda skeptical of buying things online to begin with but their prices are only about average and hearing stuff like that doesn't make me want to buy from them.

There are some excellent looking guns on GB, thanks for the link! I think a Savage bolt is probably what I'm gonna be looking for, though I won't rule out a Ruger American. I'll be keeping a close eye on some of those auctions to see what the final selling prices are. Thanks again.
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Old January 24, 2019, 10:00 PM   #34
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The fun is in the looking, keep looking and have fun !!!
I agree, the search is half the fun, that's why I'm in no rush!
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Old January 24, 2019, 10:04 PM   #35
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The older style Savage triggers are adjustable and can be made very nice. I know because I did one. But you will also have to readjust the safety after the trigger adjustment. But I did it so long ago I don't remember exactly how to do it. But with a gun in hand its was an easy adjustment.

And Savages have an excellent reputation for accuracy. But the new guns they make just strike as el cheapo made. Especially the Stevens versions.
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Old January 24, 2019, 11:01 PM   #36
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The older style Savage triggers are adjustable and can be made very nice. I know because I did one. But you will also have to readjust the safety after the trigger adjustment. But I did it so long ago I don't remember exactly how to do it. But with a gun in hand its was an easy adjustment.

And Savages have an excellent reputation for accuracy. But the new guns they make just strike as el cheapo made. Especially the Stevens versions.
Yeah I agree. A lot of the newer Savages feel plastic-y and the actions don't feel very smooth. I didn't know they even still made anything under the Stevens name. My 325B is a Stevens and I think I said in an earlier post, it's around 70 years old so quality can change a lot in 70 years but I really like that gun. Even with iron sights it's very accurate. My grandfather purchased it new a few years after he got back from the war and it's been handed down so it has some sentimental value too.
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Old January 25, 2019, 07:15 PM   #37
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Oh, just a thought...
Don't rule out going to E.R. Shaws store. They are in Washington, just south of Pittsburgh.
Oh, and so you don't feel the fool like i did my first time there, they have to "buzz you in".

Some of their Mark VII are really nice!
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Old January 26, 2019, 08:47 AM   #38
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All the inexpensive bolt action rifles currently being sold are very accurate; they also wear Tupperware stocks. Don't buy a scoped "combination" version of the rifle. The scopes are trash. $100-150 will buy a much better scope.

Ever month i visit the pawn shops that sell guns. Sometimes luck out with a real bargain. When cruising pawn shops:

1. Do your deer rifle shopping well before deer season: Summertime is best.

2. Don't be afraid to offer $100-150 less than marked price for a $350 gun.

3. Be patient.
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Old January 26, 2019, 08:52 PM   #39
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The older style Savage triggers are adjustable and can be made very nice. I know because I did one. But you will also have to readjust the safety after the trigger adjustment. But I did it so long ago I don't remember exactly how to do it. But with a gun in hand its was an easy adjustment.

And Savages have an excellent reputation for accuracy. But the new guns they make just strike as el cheapo made. Especially the Stevens versions.
Easy, there, Ratshooter. The Steven's line of Savage bolt action rifles are simply the old 110 model in a poorly finished cheap Tupperware stock. I have one in .243 Win. that my son sanded the stock, painted it camo, replaced the hard rubber butt pad with a soft Hogue recoil pad and added a Rifle Basix trigger and it shot so much better than my Sako A7, I kept the Steven's and sent the Sako down the road. My son has taken coyotes at 400 yards with 70 gr Speer TNT handloads.
The "cheap" Savages I would avoid are the current Axis and Trophy models. I do enjoy their current 10T and 12 FV heavy barrel models from Cabelas, however.
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Old January 27, 2019, 09:04 AM   #40
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Thanks for all the replies! I've never heard of ER Shaws but Washington isn't a far ride, I'm sure it would be worth checking out.

thallub, I agree on not buying combination rifles with scores, the scopes are always junk. I've made that mistake before and won't do it again.
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Old January 29, 2019, 12:22 AM   #41
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some of the "combo" scopes aren't too bad. Some of the Savages come with a Nikon Prostaff. Or the Bushnell Engage scope.

Winchester XPR combo comes with a Vortex Crossfire 2. Also not a bad scope.

Franchi Momentum combo has a burris fullfield 2.

All of the above listed combos come with scopes that are definitely serviceable. And of reasonable quality.

I have a $150 Nikon Prostaff 3-9x42 on my 270 WSM.... Perfect tracking Good Light transmission. Holds Zero, doesnt fog etc. Shoot half minute groups regularly at 100 yards, and 2/3 Minute groups at 300 yards. And its on a pretty cheap rifle... You can also save $100 or so by buying one of the combo rifles with a decent scope. VS buying both separately.

You really can get would have been considered Excellent or superb scopes 20 years ago for bargain prices today..
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Old January 29, 2019, 08:20 AM   #42
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Often a bunch of "used one season" cheap deer rifles on the private sale or consignment sales this time of year. There are actually some "hunters?" who buy a package rifle just before deer season, drag it around the woods for a few days, and re-sell it right before "tax time".
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Old January 29, 2019, 09:53 AM   #43
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Hi all, I'm looking for an inexpensive rifle to use for deer hunting. I'm looking in and around the $200-250 price range. I'd rather buy a quality used gun than a cheap new one. .308 or .270 would be my preference, ...
Joe, This should be a good time of year to buy a hunting rifle. A quick look on gunbroker.com for buy now prices on a 270W shows:

Plenty of Rem 783s, Mossbergs Savages, TCs, Rugers and a S&W in the $260 to 340 price range. This doesn't include shipping and transfer fee.

These are "buy now" prices - You could try bidding or you need to up your price range a little, even if it means waiting/saving some. You would have much more to choose.
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Old January 29, 2019, 10:50 AM   #44
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Remington 788

A used Remington 788???

I have one in 223...but only one (in 22-250) is currently on GunBroker @ $305.

Here's a YouTube link on the 788:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjBk1XTkTsM
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Old February 10, 2019, 02:30 AM   #45
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I’ve used pump shotguns with slugs for years, and a mosin M44. I actually bought a moss berg patriot in .30-06 for $200 with a cheap 3-9x, which I pulled and sold for $50, and replaced with a low end vortex 2-7x.
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