Anybody know about Holloway Arms?

Beehans88 · May 1, 2009, 01:39 PM

Hello all. Just joined the site today hoping someone on here knows something about holloway arms model HAC-7. I am a machinist by trade and had a guy trade some machine work for this rifle. I tried to find some info on them and apparently there were not too many made and believe it or not this rifle has a serial number in the single digits. Does anyone have any info on what this rifle might be worth? Any info would be greatly appreciated.

M4Sherman · May 1, 2009, 02:50 PM

If I where you I would keep it as a collectible....But of course you will need to send it to me for proper inspection

I found this on gunbroker

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=124769668

edit.

http://www.biggerhammer.net/hac7/faq.html

edit again

http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...d.php?t=115342

SPUSCG · May 1, 2009, 03:11 PM

About 350 were made, id say a single digit serial model would be quite rare, looked it up and that thing was cool...

Beehans88 · May 1, 2009, 03:16 PM

Can't even lie here guys the serial number is F0001. I about fell over when i seen that it was number 1. I do not have plans of selling it, but everybody has their price

SPUSCG · May 1, 2009, 03:25 PM

pics?

M4Sherman · May 1, 2009, 03:51 PM

Ohh get us some pics pretty, pretty please with ammo on top.

M4Sherman · May 1, 2009, 03:53 PM

Mr holloway might buy it

Quote:

(Bob) In a conversation on Oct. 5, 1999, Mr. Holloway recalled that only 280 models were produced. Model 7S serial number SNIPE-01 is the only factory manufactured "S" or sniper rifle produced by H.A.C. He also mentioned that receivers #0001 and #0007, which had been set aside for him, had been stolen from the factory. Finally contrary to rumors, no receivers had been confiscated or destroyed by any goverment entities.

SDC · May 1, 2009, 03:56 PM

Here's a page with some info on the Holloway rifles; http://www.biggerhammer.net/hac7/ . It looks like an interesting mix of several designs.

**Bud Helms** · May 1, 2009, 06:10 PM

That looks strangely like the parent directory for the FAQ link M4Sherman posted.

SDC · May 1, 2009, 07:54 PM

You're right, and I didn't notice it myself until you pointed it out

**Bud Helms** · May 1, 2009, 08:38 PM

I gotcha ... clean shot!

Skans · May 2, 2009, 10:33 AM

The Biggerhammer website has about the best and most complete information you will find on the HAC-7. I own one - #2xx - one of the later produced rifles (well, if 200 constitutes "later produced??).

As far as I know, they all came with a belt buckle with the corresponding serial number. Some had two mags, some had only one and some ammo. Mine has only one magazine. Obviously the more magazines you have the more desireable it is. The Belt buckle is very important to collectibility. There was also a HAC knife that was available - I'd love to find one of those, as very few were ever purchased.

In mint condition prices for a complete HAC-7 with buckle have ranged anywhere from about $2,300 to approaching $4,000. I've owned mine for about 7 years, and that's about how long I've been following prices for these guns. Prices seemed to be higher during the assault weapons ban, as there were far fewer folding .308's available.

But, I cold only make a rough calculated guess at what someone would pay for a HAC-7 with serial number 001, espeicially if it's in mint condition with all of the goodies.

One problem with the HAC-7 is that because so few were ever poduced, you don't have enough collectors out there to create a thriving market. I attended the Rock Island Auction last week and watched several Ingram prototypes sell in the $2,000+ range. I got a chance to handle these prototypes, and although interesting, they were nowhere comparable to the quality of the HAC-7. But for the fact that there were only one or two of the given prototypes turned what I'd consider to be a $350 gun into a $2,000+ gun.

So, what kind of premium would someone pay for a HAC-7 #001 prototype? My guess would be about $2,000 over and above what it would sell for if it were #215. I'm really just basing this off of that I saw Ingram's prototypes sell for.

Beehans88 · May 2, 2009, 12:03 PM

Unfortanetly I only have the rifle and 2 mags. Thanks for all the help and info you guys have given me. Looks like I came to right place.

Beehans88 · May 3, 2009, 11:34 AM

Just sold the gun for $8200

He said he would have paid $10,000 if I had the buckle and original box. Thanks for all the help everyone has given me.

**Bud Helms** · May 3, 2009, 11:56 AM

Outstanding!

Congratulations.

SPUSCG · May 3, 2009, 06:56 PM

You at least shoot it first? Wondering about function/accuracy

Beehans88 · May 3, 2009, 08:35 PM

Couldn't resist. Shot one mag through it first. Shot like a dream!

Chuckusaret · May 3, 2009, 08:53 PM

I saw one of the standard 20" barrel ones at a gun show in the Dallas/Ft Worth area last year. Looked like it had seen some rough use and the asking price was $600. I have heard there was a production run of 350 to 400 total.

Skans · May 4, 2009, 06:58 AM

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Just sold the gun for $8200 He said he would have paid $10,000 if I had the buckle and original box. Thanks for all the help everyone has given me.

WOW! It's hard to tell what something like that would sell for. Makes me think I should have bid a little higher on those Ingram prototypes....nowhere as cool as the HAC-7, though.

I think the production run was around 300, maybe even less. What I've heard is that some serial numbers were skipped so you can't go by the highest known serial number. The highest number I've heard was 350.

Anyway, whoever now owns HAC-7 #001 is probably very pleased with his purchase. Now, whoever owsn that #001 Belt Buckle might as well be holding its equivilent weight of pure platinum.

Dood_22 · May 4, 2009, 09:41 AM

How does it operate? With a rotating bolt?

M4Sherman · May 4, 2009, 10:35 AM

Did you at least get 1 picture?

May 1, 2009, 01:39 PM	#1
Beehans88 Junior Member Join Date: May 1, 2009 Posts: 5	Anybody know about Holloway Arms? Hello all. Just joined the site today hoping someone on here knows something about holloway arms model HAC-7. I am a machinist by trade and had a guy trade some machine work for this rifle. I tried to find some info on them and apparently there were not too many made and believe it or not this rifle has a serial number in the single digits. Does anyone have any info on what this rifle might be worth? Any info would be greatly appreciated.

May 1, 2009, 03:11 PM	#3
SPUSCG Senior Member Join Date: January 25, 2008 Posts: 3,004	About 350 were made, id say a single digit serial model would be quite rare, looked it up and that thing was cool... __________________ Check us out: www.imfdb.org. Fun site for people who love gun movies.

May 1, 2009, 03:25 PM	#5
SPUSCG Senior Member Join Date: January 25, 2008 Posts: 3,004	pics? __________________ Check us out: www.imfdb.org. Fun site for people who love gun movies.

May 1, 2009, 03:56 PM	#8
SDC Senior Member Join Date: January 23, 2001 Location: People's Republic of Kanada Posts: 1,652	Here's a page with some info on the Holloway rifles; http://www.biggerhammer.net/hac7/ . It looks like an interesting mix of several designs. __________________ Gun control in Canada: making the streets safer for rapists, muggers, and other violent criminals since 1936.

May 1, 2009, 07:54 PM	#10
SDC Senior Member Join Date: January 23, 2001 Location: People's Republic of Kanada Posts: 1,652	You're right, and I didn't notice it myself until you pointed it out __________________ Gun control in Canada: making the streets safer for rapists, muggers, and other violent criminals since 1936.

May 1, 2009, 02:50 PM	#2
M4Sherman Senior Member Join Date: February 15, 2009 Posts: 408	If I where you I would keep it as a collectible....But of course you will need to send it to me for proper inspection I found this on gunbroker http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=124769668 edit. http://www.biggerhammer.net/hac7/faq.html edit again http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...d.php?t=115342 Last edited by M4Sherman; May 1, 2009 at 02:58 PM. Reason: more info

May 1, 2009, 03:16 PM	#4
Beehans88 Junior Member Join Date: May 1, 2009 Posts: 5	Can't even lie here guys the serial number is F0001. I about fell over when i seen that it was number 1. I do not have plans of selling it, but everybody has their price

May 1, 2009, 03:51 PM	#6
M4Sherman Senior Member Join Date: February 15, 2009 Posts: 408	Ohh get us some pics pretty, pretty please with ammo on top.

May 1, 2009, 06:10 PM	#9
Bud Helms Senior Member Join Date: December 31, 1999 Location: Middle Georgia, USA Posts: 13,198	That looks strangely like the parent directory for the FAQ link M4Sherman posted.

May 1, 2009, 08:38 PM	#11
Bud Helms Senior Member Join Date: December 31, 1999 Location: Middle Georgia, USA Posts: 13,198	I gotcha ... clean shot!

May 2, 2009, 10:33 AM	#12
Skans Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2008 Posts: 11,132	The Biggerhammer website has about the best and most complete information you will find on the HAC-7. I own one - #2xx - one of the later produced rifles (well, if 200 constitutes "later produced??). As far as I know, they all came with a belt buckle with the corresponding serial number. Some had two mags, some had only one and some ammo. Mine has only one magazine. Obviously the more magazines you have the more desireable it is. The Belt buckle is very important to collectibility. There was also a HAC knife that was available - I'd love to find one of those, as very few were ever purchased. In mint condition prices for a complete HAC-7 with buckle have ranged anywhere from about $2,300 to approaching $4,000. I've owned mine for about 7 years, and that's about how long I've been following prices for these guns. Prices seemed to be higher during the assault weapons ban, as there were far fewer folding .308's available. But, I cold only make a rough calculated guess at what someone would pay for a HAC-7 with serial number 001, espeicially if it's in mint condition with all of the goodies. One problem with the HAC-7 is that because so few were ever poduced, you don't have enough collectors out there to create a thriving market. I attended the Rock Island Auction last week and watched several Ingram prototypes sell in the $2,000+ range. I got a chance to handle these prototypes, and although interesting, they were nowhere comparable to the quality of the HAC-7. But for the fact that there were only one or two of the given prototypes turned what I'd consider to be a $350 gun into a $2,000+ gun. So, what kind of premium would someone pay for a HAC-7 #001 prototype? My guess would be about $2,000 over and above what it would sell for if it were #215. I'm really just basing this off of that I saw Ingram's prototypes sell for.

May 2, 2009, 12:03 PM	#13
Beehans88 Junior Member Join Date: May 1, 2009 Posts: 5	Unfortanetly I only have the rifle and 2 mags. Thanks for all the help and info you guys have given me. Looks like I came to right place.

May 3, 2009, 11:34 AM	#14
Beehans88 Junior Member Join Date: May 1, 2009 Posts: 5	Just sold the gun for $8200 He said he would have paid $10,000 if I had the buckle and original box. Thanks for all the help everyone has given me.

May 3, 2009, 11:56 AM	#15
Bud Helms Senior Member Join Date: December 31, 1999 Location: Middle Georgia, USA Posts: 13,198	Outstanding! Congratulations.

May 3, 2009, 06:56 PM	#16
SPUSCG Senior Member Join Date: January 25, 2008 Posts: 3,004	You at least shoot it first? Wondering about function/accuracy __________________ Check us out: www.imfdb.org. Fun site for people who love gun movies.

May 3, 2009, 08:35 PM	#17
Beehans88 Junior Member Join Date: May 1, 2009 Posts: 5	Couldn't resist. Shot one mag through it first. Shot like a dream!

May 3, 2009, 08:53 PM	#18
Chuckusaret Junior member Join Date: December 5, 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 708	I saw one of the standard 20" barrel ones at a gun show in the Dallas/Ft Worth area last year. Looked like it had seen some rough use and the asking price was $600. I have heard there was a production run of 350 to 400 total.

May 4, 2009, 09:41 AM	#20
Dood_22 Junior member Join Date: February 20, 2009 Posts: 120	How does it operate? With a rotating bolt?

May 4, 2009, 10:35 AM	#21
M4Sherman Senior Member Join Date: February 15, 2009 Posts: 408	Did you at least get 1 picture?