Big revolver - Page 3

ifithitu · October 19, 2017, 10:12 PM

My three biggest,Redhawk .44 Mag. CA Bulldog .44 Spl. & S&W 69 .44 Mag.From-Bottom-Middle-Top

disseminator · October 19, 2017, 10:14 PM

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"This is possibly the greatest misspelling in all of human history."

Agreed! Good Stuff.

condor bravo · October 20, 2017, 12:24 AM

Another big revolver that may have not yet been mentioned is the 10 mm s&w model 610 but these are hard to find today. My money for the big revolver would still be the .460 s&w (since I have one) and gets everyone's attention when fired.

Siggy-06 · October 20, 2017, 09:01 PM

Not to hijack the thread but I saw the 45 colt/45acp convertible Blackhawk mentioned. Can you shoot .45 super in the .45acp cylinder or would it be pushing it?(I know the Rugers are tough).

TruthTellers · October 20, 2017, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Siggy-06

Not to hijack the thread but I saw the 45 colt/45acp convertible Blackhawk mentioned. Can you shoot .45 super in the .45acp cylinder or would it be pushing it?(I know the Rugers are tough).

I've wondered the same thing about my .45/.45 ACP Redhawk and I think with the Redhawk, given it uses the same cylinder to shoot the Ruger only .45 Colt loads, it would be safe, but you're asking about shooting .45 ACP in the .45 ACP cylinder for the Blackhawk and I don't think the cylinders are built to handle .45 Super.

Not much of a reason to shoot such a hot rimless round in a Blackhawk when the hot .45 Colt loads are even more powerful.

I'd contact Ruger and ask them.

peterg7 · October 22, 2017, 08:22 AM

I have a Blackhawk.45 convertible and both cylinders are the same size, in fact the new model Blackhawk uses. The same frame/cylinder as the super Blackhawk. So one could assume that .45 super would be fine because pressure is less than .44 mag or .45 +p

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Nathan · October 22, 2017, 09:45 AM

The bfr 460 sounds like a nice choice. 7.5" barrel is key.

At a few bucks less would be the 7.5" Blackhawk in 480 Ruger that would perform similar, but have more holster selection and be more big bore!

TruthTellers · October 22, 2017, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by peterg7

I have a Blackhawk.45 convertible and both cylinders are the same, in fact the new model Blackhawk uses. The same frame/cylinder as the super Blackhawk. So one could assume that .45 super would be fine because pressure is less than .44 mag or .45 +p

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.45 Super pressures are much higher than .45 ACP +P

jackmoser65 · October 22, 2017, 11:46 AM

45 Super pressure is listed as 28kpsi which is still under the 32kpsi maximum of ruger only loads.

CDR_Glock · October 22, 2017, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dano4734

Ruger Toklat super redhawk 454 casull. After 200 rounds the recoil no longer bothers me. It's my 44 mag on steroids. Love the gun. I shoot 300 grain federal vital shok out of it. Going to try and bring down a deer this year

It’s my revolver of choice for moderate recoil. I have learned to tame The recoil after 200+ rounds myself in each.

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peterg7 · October 22, 2017, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TruthTellers

.45 Super pressures are much higher than .45 ACP +P

My bad that's .45C+p or Better known as Buffalo Bore .45C Ruger (New model Blackhawk, Redhawk) loads.

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Danoobie · October 22, 2017, 07:50 PM

I'm at 44 Mag as my max. I like my S&W 629, it's a smooth shooter.
I've also shot the Super Redhawk. I guess if you are shooting hot
loads, the Redhawk is quite a bit heavier, to help tame recoil.

saleen322 · October 23, 2017, 07:22 PM

A 4" S&W 29 with full power rounds will feel like it has more recoil than a 460 X frame with a 8 3/8 barrel. As was mentioned, the weight of the handgun has a dramatic impact on felt recoil. The 41 mag Redhawk is also another revolver that is very comfortable to shoot.

Reloadron · October 24, 2017, 11:21 AM

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With all that said, which big revolver with a big cartridge is the most comfortable to shoot. I know this is subjective, but I still want to hear your thoughts. I reload so I can load as mild or hot as I want.

Yeah, that would be subjective.

While I have shot my share of hand cannons I have a S&W Model 29 I like to use as an example. I have a set of real nice wood grips to compliment the gun but shooting the same loads using the pretty wood verse the Hogue S&W rubber grips is sort of a day and night affair. The Hogue being much more manageable. So I figure the grips play a roll in the equation.

That said and away from the .44 Remington Magnum another gun I like and very much enjoy shooting is my S&W Model 27. I have to agree with BigJimP in that you take a moderate cartridge like the .357 Magnum and place it in any heavy large frame revolver like a S&W N Frame and the gun should be a pleasure to shoot. The rules of recoil energy and perceived or felt recoil would seem to prevail.

Ron

spawndn72 · January 2, 2018, 01:48 PM

Well, after talking about some truly huge guns, I finally bought something and you are all probably going to laugh.
I ended up with a S&W model 27 that has been refinished in nickle. It is a pleasure to shoot and the "N" frame is plenty big.
I liked it so much that I also bought at model 19.
Neither are anything special, just shooters.

RIDE-RED 350r · January 2, 2018, 03:46 PM

Make no mistake, there is plenty special about a model 27 and model 19!

RC20 · January 2, 2018, 04:26 PM

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Model 57, .41 mag. A 4" is just so nice. Easy load from wild to mild, and your not just one of the crowd. I wouldn't recommend it to a non loader. But for a hand loader it's a very versatile round.

I out shot 20 some instructors at a police academy with Model 27 (I was 4th on the list) they were using 38 wad-cutters for shooting back then.

I liked the K frames as well, more suited to 38 I thought but fine for 357.

Loved the N Frame. Had the 44, liked the 41 magnum better (still have it)

ifithitu · January 2, 2018, 09:48 PM

I bought this big boy today,a S&W JM .45 ACP revolver.

disseminator · January 3, 2018, 04:16 AM

I also have a 625JM, it's one of my favorite guns!

(disclaimer: I say that about all of them, but because they are.)

I love shooting creative hand loads in 45 Auto Rim brass.

CajunBass · January 3, 2018, 07:13 AM

Good choice on the 27 and the 19. You can't go wrong with them.

I too like "big guns." That doesn't mean I like a lot of recoil. I shoot "specials" most of the time in my 357 and 44 Magnum guns. Paper targets don't take a lot of killing.

kraigwy · January 3, 2018, 09:54 AM

The Police Bible for Law Enforcement in the 70s was O.W. Wilson, Police Administration.

Wilson state the service revolver should be heavy, so's it could be used as a club if necessary.

The Smith Model 28 Highway Patrolman fit that bill perfectly.

I have a Model 29 and I love shooting it. But my Model 28 is much more practical, Few people can shoot the 44 Mags (and heavier) contrary to what we read on the internet.

Penitration is the name of the game for shooting large game. The 357 w/LSWCs fit that bill perfectly. With the weight of the heavy "N" frames recoil is managable in 357s.

I've carried mine for 20 years in LE in a place where large animal calls were common.

I've had to put down many of moose after a vehicle/moose encounter. Never needed more then one shot. Humain one shot kills on large animals is best when shot in the neck where the spin enters the brain.

Moose, esp. bulls have pretty tough neck mussles. Have to to pack around the massive racks. I carried handloads, 150 grn. cast Lyman 358477 pushed by a health dose of 2400. The bullet doesnt need to be excessively hard. But it works.

I've posted this before, but the talk of heavy revolvers, and what works warrants another look.

Got this guy while he was charging my partrol car after he cause quite a traffic tie up between Anchorage and Eagle River. He wasn't happey with my overheads I'm thinking.

I know that 44s and >44s will work, but again, few people can handle them. Good 357s that can take a lot of heavy ammo without shooting loose fit the bill. 10s of thousands of rounds in practice and use over the last near 45 years, my Model 28 Service revolver is still rock solid and accurate using my Lyman bullet.

A bit over kill on bowling pins, I had to back off the powder after I put my normal load through a pin and let the pin standing. Got to slow down the bullet a bit to sucessfully grab a pin and take it off the table.

Reloadron · January 3, 2018, 03:50 PM

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The Smith Model 28 Highway Patrolman fit that bill perfectly.

Visuited a friend's gun shop today. He called before the holidays and in conversation mentioned he had just taken in a S&W Model 28. I asked him to hang on to it till after the holidays. I looked at it this morning and took it home. Merry Christmas to me.

Also looked long and hard at a pre Series 70 Colt Commander in 9mm, like new in the box he wanted $1,500 out the door. I have been looking at or for a nice clean 9mm Series 70 5". Sweet as the gun was I passed. Figure I'll wait on what I really want till one comes along. Real happy with the Model 28 Highway Patrolman though in a 4". Model 28-2 and clean.

Ron

jetinteriorguy · January 3, 2018, 06:32 PM

Model 28's are tough. I accidentally overloaded Titegroup by 5 grains once and shot one full cylinder. Seemed like a lot of recoil compared to the first time I shot the load. So I discontinued and pulled them down when I got home, weighed them and discovered they were 5 grains over. Seems as though the poise was one notch farther than it looked, last time I ever used that scale.

**Aguila Blanca** · January 3, 2018, 06:34 PM

Shucks, I thought you said something about a BIG revolver ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3mFPwH_3PQ

[sorry -- de debil made me do it]

Nick_C_S · January 3, 2018, 07:31 PM

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I accidentally overloaded Titegroup by 5 grains once

jetinteriorguy: I'm am curious to know the particulars of this loading. Uhh, not that I intend to load anything of the sort. Would just like to know a little more for my own knowledge.

PM me if you feel so inclined to share.
Thanks,
Nick.

October 20, 2017, 12:24 AM	#53
condor bravo Senior Member Join Date: August 23, 2014 Location: Nevada/Ariz/CA Posts: 1,753	Another big revolver that may have not yet been mentioned is the 10 mm s&w model 610 but these are hard to find today. My money for the big revolver would still be the .460 s&w (since I have one) and gets everyone's attention when fired. __________________ Ouch, the dreaded "M-1 thumb", you just know it will happen eventually, so why not do it now and get it over with??

October 20, 2017, 09:01 PM	#54
Siggy-06 Senior Member Join Date: September 2, 2014 Location: Florida Posts: 1,148	Not to hijack the thread but I saw the 45 colt/45acp convertible Blackhawk mentioned. Can you shoot .45 super in the .45acp cylinder or would it be pushing it?(I know the Rugers are tough). __________________ Flicks just like a lighter, just a different kind of fire.

October 22, 2017, 08:22 AM	#56
peterg7 Senior Member Join Date: July 20, 2017 Posts: 316	Big revolver I have a Blackhawk.45 convertible and both cylinders are the same size, in fact the new model Blackhawk uses. The same frame/cylinder as the super Blackhawk. So one could assume that .45 super would be fine because pressure is less than .44 mag or .45 +p Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Last edited by peterg7; October 22, 2017 at 04:21 PM.

January 3, 2018, 07:13 AM	#70
CajunBass Senior Member Join Date: May 6, 2005 Location: North Chesterfield, Virginia Posts: 4,767	Good choice on the 27 and the 19. You can't go wrong with them. I too like "big guns." That doesn't mean I like a lot of recoil. I shoot "specials" most of the time in my 357 and 44 Magnum guns. Paper targets don't take a lot of killing. __________________ For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16 (NKJV)

January 3, 2018, 09:54 AM	#71
kraigwy Senior Member Join Date: June 16, 2008 Location: Wyoming Posts: 11,061	The Police Bible for Law Enforcement in the 70s was O.W. Wilson, Police Administration. Wilson state the service revolver should be heavy, so's it could be used as a club if necessary. The Smith Model 28 Highway Patrolman fit that bill perfectly. I have a Model 29 and I love shooting it. But my Model 28 is much more practical, Few people can shoot the 44 Mags (and heavier) contrary to what we read on the internet. Penitration is the name of the game for shooting large game. The 357 w/LSWCs fit that bill perfectly. With the weight of the heavy "N" frames recoil is managable in 357s. I've carried mine for 20 years in LE in a place where large animal calls were common. I've had to put down many of moose after a vehicle/moose encounter. Never needed more then one shot. Humain one shot kills on large animals is best when shot in the neck where the spin enters the brain. Moose, esp. bulls have pretty tough neck mussles. Have to to pack around the massive racks. I carried handloads, 150 grn. cast Lyman 358477 pushed by a health dose of 2400. The bullet doesnt need to be excessively hard. But it works. I've posted this before, but the talk of heavy revolvers, and what works warrants another look. Got this guy while he was charging my partrol car after he cause quite a traffic tie up between Anchorage and Eagle River. He wasn't happey with my overheads I'm thinking. I know that 44s and >44s will work, but again, few people can handle them. Good 357s that can take a lot of heavy ammo without shooting loose fit the bill. 10s of thousands of rounds in practice and use over the last near 45 years, my Model 28 Service revolver is still rock solid and accurate using my Lyman bullet. A bit over kill on bowling pins, I had to back off the powder after I put my normal load through a pin and let the pin standing. Got to slow down the bullet a bit to sucessfully grab a pin and take it off the table. __________________ Kraig Stuart CPT USAR Ret USAMU Sniper School Distinguished Rifle Badge 1071

October 22, 2017, 09:45 AM	#57
Nathan Senior Member Join Date: July 1, 2001 Posts: 6,331	The bfr 460 sounds like a nice choice. 7.5" barrel is key. At a few bucks less would be the 7.5" Blackhawk in 480 Ruger that would perform similar, but have more holster selection and be more big bore!

October 22, 2017, 11:46 AM	#59
jackmoser65 Senior Member Join Date: October 11, 2014 Posts: 754	45 Super pressure is listed as 28kpsi which is still under the 32kpsi maximum of ruger only loads.

October 22, 2017, 07:50 PM	#62
Danoobie Senior Member Join Date: April 27, 2017 Posts: 351	I'm at 44 Mag as my max. I like my S&W 629, it's a smooth shooter. I've also shot the Super Redhawk. I guess if you are shooting hot loads, the Redhawk is quite a bit heavier, to help tame recoil.

October 23, 2017, 07:22 PM	#63
saleen322 Senior Member Join Date: March 8, 2010 Posts: 778	A 4" S&W 29 with full power rounds will feel like it has more recoil than a 460 X frame with a 8 3/8 barrel. As was mentioned, the weight of the handgun has a dramatic impact on felt recoil. The 41 mag Redhawk is also another revolver that is very comfortable to shoot.

January 2, 2018, 01:48 PM	#65
spawndn72 Member Join Date: July 13, 2007 Posts: 95	Well, after talking about some truly huge guns, I finally bought something and you are all probably going to laugh. I ended up with a S&W model 27 that has been refinished in nickle. It is a pleasure to shoot and the "N" frame is plenty big. I liked it so much that I also bought at model 19. Neither are anything special, just shooters.

January 2, 2018, 03:46 PM	#66
RIDE-RED 350r Senior Member Join Date: November 2, 2014 Posts: 425	Make no mistake, there is plenty special about a model 27 and model 19!

January 3, 2018, 04:16 AM	#69
disseminator Senior Member Join Date: November 26, 2016 Location: Minnesota Posts: 960	I also have a 625JM, it's one of my favorite guns! (disclaimer: I say that about all of them, but because they are.) I love shooting creative hand loads in 45 Auto Rim brass.

January 3, 2018, 06:32 PM	#73
jetinteriorguy Senior Member Join Date: April 28, 2013 Posts: 3,175	Model 28's are tough. I accidentally overloaded Titegroup by 5 grains once and shot one full cylinder. Seemed like a lot of recoil compared to the first time I shot the load. So I discontinued and pulled them down when I got home, weighed them and discovered they were 5 grains over. Seems as though the poise was one notch farther than it looked, last time I ever used that scale.

January 3, 2018, 06:34 PM	#74
Aguila Blanca Staff Join Date: September 25, 2008 Location: CONUS Posts: 18,467	Shucks, I thought you said something about a BIG revolver ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3mFPwH_3PQ [sorry -- de debil made me do it]