Anyone use the Bowen lanyard loops?

HighValleyRanch · January 5, 2018, 12:42 PM

They are nice looking. Anyone install one?
http://parts.bowenclassicarms.com/in...=index&cPath=7

I was looking for one to put on my survival woods gun, but ended up making one myself because their threading was the wrong size for my Ruger.

I figiure that a lanyard setup for hiking/survival would be good in case of a fall or being swept down a stream!LOL

DPris · January 5, 2018, 12:59 PM

I took mine off.
Never liked the idea of a cord hanging around my neck that could snag on things.
Denis

sharpe15 · January 5, 2018, 01:33 PM

Not the Bowen, but Hogue Monogrips had a screw that would make a lanyard loop. I think you have to buy it as a replacement screw direct from Hogue. I have one on my Security Six.

rodfac · January 6, 2018, 06:35 AM

Elmer Keith did a write-up on a lanyard ring one time many, many years ago, IIRC. Said it offered an additional means of support for off-hand shooting...you adjusted the loop to allow the lanyard to tighten as you extended the gun to firing position, two-handed grip. In use, you pushed forward against the loop's tension as I recall. Never tried it, and like Dennis, I'm not crazy about a loop of anything around my neck while woods loafing...same on horseback...pretty much any conveyance.

Stebbins & Bert Shay, writing in their 1960's tome, Pistols, a Modern Encyclopedia, write about lanyard use for those in remote regions where the loss of a sidearm could be a fatal mistake. It's a good book, and not only for this bit of trivia. It's well worth purchase if you ever find one. (Just checked: less than $6.00 on Amazon in paperback!)

Rod

HighValleyRanch · January 6, 2018, 10:11 AM

rod, I have used my lanyard like a rifle sling and it adds an incredible amount of support, whether in standing off hand or in kneeliing or sitting positions. For those long accurate shots it would be great.

While I understand the concern about having a cord near the neck, it's looped under the strong side arm, and with a slide you can adjust it so it can't come up around the neck and have the hazard of choking.

Of course every decision is somewhat a compromise, so the possibility of getting caught in brush must be weighed against the loss of the firearm. But I like the option of the lanyard for woods carry.

Thanks for the recommendations on the book, I will look for it!

rodfac · January 6, 2018, 01:45 PM

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While I understand the concern about having a cord near the neck, it's looped under the strong side arm, and with a slide you can adjust it so it can't come up around the neck and have the hazard of choking.

Gothcha High Valley...interesting point. I'll have to rig up something to give the same effect...ie. a support of sorts. Rod

Bill DeShivs · January 6, 2018, 02:31 PM

You could attach it to your belt......

jhenry · January 6, 2018, 11:36 PM

It's a solution in search of a problem.

HighValleyRanch · January 7, 2018, 12:01 AM

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It's a solution in search of a problem.

Have you ever been bucked off a horse?

Andy Blozinski · January 7, 2018, 10:45 AM

"You could attach it to your belt......"

I really really wondered why some of you were making comments about attaching the lanyard to your neck.

SIGSHR · January 7, 2018, 01:49 PM

I recall Jeff Cooper endorsing them, said it's incredibly difficult to take a gun away from someone it's attached to.

DPris · January 7, 2018, 10:04 PM

It's a great strangle cord, inadvertently by you snagging it or intentionally by someone else grabbing it.
Denis

tipoc · January 10, 2018, 06:14 PM

Lanyards on a handgun are very useful under some conditions. I won't bore you by giving examples.

If you have a fear of being choked by them don't wear them around your neck. Instead attach them to some other piece of your gear or clothing.

tipoc

USMCGrunt · January 10, 2018, 06:29 PM

OK, this whole "lanyard around your neck" is some serious old-school line of thinking. Do they even make them anymore? Lanyards I've seen lately tend to be the telephone chord style that attaches to the belt. No idea how you would manage to strangle yourself with one.

tipoc · January 10, 2018, 06:48 PM

Came in handy for me once while taking a bath...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrYtD7gSWsI

tipoc

DPris · January 11, 2018, 01:52 PM

I can see me getting a lanyard tangled up in the seatbelt of my ATV on a quick exit, or in trying to get the gun out of the holster in a hurry.
I can see it getting caught in branches.
I can see it getting caught in numerous situations, and grabbed in others.
I won't give one a chance to do any of that.

The lanyard only has value in limited circumstances.
Those might include canoeing, which I don't do, mountain climbing, which I don't do, and sleeping in a tent, which I no longer do.

Canoeing to resist going over the side (just buy a good holster); cliff scaling to avoid a straight drop (buy a good holster), or instantly being able to locate your handgun if a bear or cat starts ripping through the tent wall at 2AM (actually one of the few valid uses for a lanyard).

Certainly no value in one around town.

You make your own choices.
I have no use for a lanyard.
Denis

tipoc · January 11, 2018, 03:07 PM

Kordoniphobia (alternate, Schoiniphobia) is the clinical term for a fear of short cords or lanyards.

Denis' 3 posts in this thread raise the possibility of a clinical phobia. Lanyards on guns, flashlights, knives, etc. may inspire deep fear in some.

Alternately this could be an example of Megetemstuckuponstuffphobia or the fear of getting caught or trapped on branches, fences, wire clothes hangers, etc.

Possibly Kosmemophobia, the fear of things around your neck like a necklace or tie.

Or Kosmemyjobophobia the fear of being fired from your job for refusing to wear a tie, lanyard etc.

Oh well, at any rate professional help may be required.

tipoc

HighValleyRanch · January 11, 2018, 03:12 PM

Possibly Kordaphobia!

noelf2 · January 11, 2018, 03:24 PM

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Came in handy for me once while taking a bath...

This thread had me thinking about Tuco also!

DPris · January 12, 2018, 04:09 AM

Or possibly it may just be that I dislike cords dangling off my body because I HAVE gotten them caught on things in the past.

There's no need to take cheap shots on this.
I explained my personal preference & I said make your own choice.
I have not been sarcastic or derogatory towards anybody who does like the things.
Denis

Prndll · January 12, 2018, 08:14 AM

A neck lanyard just wouldn't make much sense to me unless maybe it's something like an AR. That would be more about a way to visibly carry it throughout the day as a show of force, authority, and a 'ready-to-go' at any time kinda thing. Considering the weight of it anyway.

Belt lanyards would seem to be the better choice for most handguns but only for certain circumstances.

I always considered belt type lanyards to be kinda cool but I'm not sure I would ever really use them...maybe, maybe not. Leather would be somewhat nostalgic and nylon a bit tactical but the romantic in me likes the lanyard loop itself. Even if an actual lanyard is never attached.

January 5, 2018, 12:42 PM	#1
HighValleyRanch Senior Member Join Date: July 15, 2005 Posts: 4,066	Anyone use the Bowen lanyard loops? They are nice looking. Anyone install one? http://parts.bowenclassicarms.com/in...=index&cPath=7 I was looking for one to put on my survival woods gun, but ended up making one myself because their threading was the wrong size for my Ruger. I figiure that a lanyard setup for hiking/survival would be good in case of a fall or being swept down a stream!LOL __________________ From the sweet grass to the slaughter house; From birth until death; We travel between these two eternities........from 'Broken Trail"

January 6, 2018, 06:35 AM	#4
rodfac Senior Member Join Date: January 22, 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,623	Elmer Keith did a write-up on a lanyard ring one time many, many years ago, IIRC. Said it offered an additional means of support for off-hand shooting...you adjusted the loop to allow the lanyard to tighten as you extended the gun to firing position, two-handed grip. In use, you pushed forward against the loop's tension as I recall. Never tried it, and like Dennis, I'm not crazy about a loop of anything around my neck while woods loafing...same on horseback...pretty much any conveyance. Stebbins & Bert Shay, writing in their 1960's tome, Pistols, a Modern Encyclopedia, write about lanyard use for those in remote regions where the loss of a sidearm could be a fatal mistake. It's a good book, and not only for this bit of trivia. It's well worth purchase if you ever find one. (Just checked: less than $6.00 on Amazon in paperback!) Rod __________________ Cherish our flag, honor it, defend it in word and deed, or get the hell out. Our Bill of Rights has been paid for by heros in uniform and shall not be diluted by misguided governmental social experiments. We owe this to our children, anything less is cowardice. USAF FAC, 5th Spl Forces, Vietnam Vet '69-'73.

January 6, 2018, 10:11 AM	#5
HighValleyRanch Senior Member Join Date: July 15, 2005 Posts: 4,066	rod, I have used my lanyard like a rifle sling and it adds an incredible amount of support, whether in standing off hand or in kneeliing or sitting positions. For those long accurate shots it would be great. While I understand the concern about having a cord near the neck, it's looped under the strong side arm, and with a slide you can adjust it so it can't come up around the neck and have the hazard of choking. Of course every decision is somewhat a compromise, so the possibility of getting caught in brush must be weighed against the loss of the firearm. But I like the option of the lanyard for woods carry. Thanks for the recommendations on the book, I will look for it! __________________ From the sweet grass to the slaughter house; From birth until death; We travel between these two eternities........from 'Broken Trail"

January 6, 2018, 02:31 PM	#7
Bill DeShivs Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2006 Posts: 10,985	You could attach it to your belt...... __________________ Bill DeShivs, Master Cutler www.billdeshivs.com

January 6, 2018, 11:36 PM	#8
jhenry Senior Member Join Date: May 27, 2006 Location: Ozarks Posts: 1,840	It's a solution in search of a problem. __________________ "A Liberal is someone who doesn't care what you do, as long as it's mandatory". - Charles Krauthammer

January 5, 2018, 12:59 PM	#2
DPris Member Emeritus Join Date: August 19, 2004 Posts: 7,133	I took mine off. Never liked the idea of a cord hanging around my neck that could snag on things. Denis

January 5, 2018, 01:33 PM	#3
sharpe15 Junior Member Join Date: August 12, 2010 Posts: 8	Not the Bowen, but Hogue Monogrips had a screw that would make a lanyard loop. I think you have to buy it as a replacement screw direct from Hogue. I have one on my Security Six.

January 7, 2018, 10:45 AM	#10
Andy Blozinski Senior Member Join Date: August 31, 2013 Posts: 525	"You could attach it to your belt......" I really really wondered why some of you were making comments about attaching the lanyard to your neck.

January 7, 2018, 01:49 PM	#11
SIGSHR Senior Member Join Date: September 13, 2005 Posts: 4,700	I recall Jeff Cooper endorsing them, said it's incredibly difficult to take a gun away from someone it's attached to.

January 7, 2018, 10:04 PM	#12
DPris Member Emeritus Join Date: August 19, 2004 Posts: 7,133	It's a great strangle cord, inadvertently by you snagging it or intentionally by someone else grabbing it. Denis

January 10, 2018, 06:14 PM	#13
tipoc Senior Member Join Date: December 11, 2004 Location: Redwood City, Ca. Posts: 4,114	Lanyards on a handgun are very useful under some conditions. I won't bore you by giving examples. If you have a fear of being choked by them don't wear them around your neck. Instead attach them to some other piece of your gear or clothing. tipoc __________________ 1. All guns are always loaded. 2. Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy. 3. Keep your finger off the trigger till you are ready to shoot. 4. Identify your target and know what is beyond it.

January 10, 2018, 06:29 PM	#14
USMCGrunt Senior Member Join Date: February 27, 2000 Location: Somewhere in 14T NT Posts: 730	OK, this whole "lanyard around your neck" is some serious old-school line of thinking. Do they even make them anymore? Lanyards I've seen lately tend to be the telephone chord style that attaches to the belt. No idea how you would manage to strangle yourself with one.

January 10, 2018, 06:48 PM	#15
tipoc Senior Member Join Date: December 11, 2004 Location: Redwood City, Ca. Posts: 4,114	Came in handy for me once while taking a bath... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrYtD7gSWsI tipoc __________________ 1. All guns are always loaded. 2. Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy. 3. Keep your finger off the trigger till you are ready to shoot. 4. Identify your target and know what is beyond it.

January 11, 2018, 01:52 PM	#16
DPris Member Emeritus Join Date: August 19, 2004 Posts: 7,133	I can see me getting a lanyard tangled up in the seatbelt of my ATV on a quick exit, or in trying to get the gun out of the holster in a hurry. I can see it getting caught in branches. I can see it getting caught in numerous situations, and grabbed in others. I won't give one a chance to do any of that. The lanyard only has value in limited circumstances. Those might include canoeing, which I don't do, mountain climbing, which I don't do, and sleeping in a tent, which I no longer do. Canoeing to resist going over the side (just buy a good holster); cliff scaling to avoid a straight drop (buy a good holster), or instantly being able to locate your handgun if a bear or cat starts ripping through the tent wall at 2AM (actually one of the few valid uses for a lanyard). Certainly no value in one around town. You make your own choices. I have no use for a lanyard. Denis

January 11, 2018, 03:07 PM	#17
tipoc Senior Member Join Date: December 11, 2004 Location: Redwood City, Ca. Posts: 4,114	Kordoniphobia (alternate, Schoiniphobia) is the clinical term for a fear of short cords or lanyards. Denis' 3 posts in this thread raise the possibility of a clinical phobia. Lanyards on guns, flashlights, knives, etc. may inspire deep fear in some. Alternately this could be an example of Megetemstuckuponstuffphobia or the fear of getting caught or trapped on branches, fences, wire clothes hangers, etc. Possibly Kosmemophobia, the fear of things around your neck like a necklace or tie. Or Kosmemyjobophobia the fear of being fired from your job for refusing to wear a tie, lanyard etc. Oh well, at any rate professional help may be required. tipoc __________________ 1. All guns are always loaded. 2. Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy. 3. Keep your finger off the trigger till you are ready to shoot. 4. Identify your target and know what is beyond it.

January 11, 2018, 03:12 PM	#18
HighValleyRanch Senior Member Join Date: July 15, 2005 Posts: 4,066	Possibly Kordaphobia! __________________ From the sweet grass to the slaughter house; From birth until death; We travel between these two eternities........from 'Broken Trail"

January 12, 2018, 04:09 AM	#20
DPris Member Emeritus Join Date: August 19, 2004 Posts: 7,133	Or possibly it may just be that I dislike cords dangling off my body because I HAVE gotten them caught on things in the past. There's no need to take cheap shots on this. I explained my personal preference & I said make your own choice. I have not been sarcastic or derogatory towards anybody who does like the things. Denis

January 12, 2018, 08:14 AM	#21
Prndll Senior Member Join Date: July 24, 2017 Location: Texas Posts: 123	A neck lanyard just wouldn't make much sense to me unless maybe it's something like an AR. That would be more about a way to visibly carry it throughout the day as a show of force, authority, and a 'ready-to-go' at any time kinda thing. Considering the weight of it anyway. Belt lanyards would seem to be the better choice for most handguns but only for certain circumstances. I always considered belt type lanyards to be kinda cool but I'm not sure I would ever really use them...maybe, maybe not. Leather would be somewhat nostalgic and nylon a bit tactical but the romantic in me likes the lanyard loop itself. Even if an actual lanyard is never attached.