Mosin Nagant question

Tigerclaw78 · August 11, 2011, 05:47 PM

Hey guys, so I just purchased my first milsurp rifle. Its a Mosin Nagant made at Tula in 1942. I'm so looking forward to shooting this gun but i want to make sure its safe first. So while i was giving it a good cleaning i noticed that the rim around the chamber is only half. I'm not sure if its broken off or if this is normal of mosins? thanks for any advice you guys can offer

MikeG · August 11, 2011, 07:23 PM

There were many changes in machining during World War Two to speed production. Among these was cutting the lug race. Check receiver #5.01 and later on the page here to see if that's what you have:
http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinReceiver.htm

American Eagle · August 11, 2011, 07:47 PM

I was lucky to find one from 1934. Pre-war models were better built. I've seen some WWII Mosin Nagants and the quality of the build and finish leave a lot to be desired. The Russians were rushing to produce as many of these as they could during WWII, so as long as it fired, it was good to go even if the finish and build quality were primitive by modern standards.

rdf.hack · August 11, 2011, 07:51 PM

@American Eagle

True, but some round receiver 91/30s shoot better, they have not been in service as long as a prewar

American Eagle · August 11, 2011, 08:07 PM

@Reddaemonfox,

That's also true. My 1934 is not the most accurate in the world. It will only manage 4 inch groups at 100 yards (could be the ammo, I am using low end Soviet surplus bullets which are quite nasty) but probably more to the fact that it was refinished at Soviet arsenals once or twice during the war.

But I like it since it is the most historic firearm I have. God knows how many NAZI that thing killed, and how many Russian soldiers fought and died holding my rifle. So I can forgive the wear and tear and less than stellar accuracy in light of the history that rifle went through. And considering I only paid $80 for it a few years ago, I can't complain.

Tigerclaw78 · August 13, 2011, 04:05 PM

yep mike that is what i have thanks for the info. wish i could have found that when i was searching, also i spoke with a smith this morning that confirmed that it is normal.

August 11, 2011, 05:47 PM	#1
Tigerclaw78 Member Join Date: February 12, 2011 Posts: 18	Mosin Nagant question Hey guys, so I just purchased my first milsurp rifle. Its a Mosin Nagant made at Tula in 1942. I'm so looking forward to shooting this gun but i want to make sure its safe first. So while i was giving it a good cleaning i noticed that the rim around the chamber is only half. I'm not sure if its broken off or if this is normal of mosins? thanks for any advice you guys can offer

August 11, 2011, 07:47 PM	#3
American Eagle Senior Member Join Date: March 20, 2009 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 265	I was lucky to find one from 1934. Pre-war models were better built. I've seen some WWII Mosin Nagants and the quality of the build and finish leave a lot to be desired. The Russians were rushing to produce as many of these as they could during WWII, so as long as it fired, it was good to go even if the finish and build quality were primitive by modern standards. __________________ I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them. ----THOMAS JEFFERSON

August 11, 2011, 07:23 PM	#2
MikeG Senior Member Join Date: April 2, 2002 Location: Falcon Colorado Posts: 256	There were many changes in machining during World War Two to speed production. Among these was cutting the lug race. Check receiver #5.01 and later on the page here to see if that's what you have: http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinReceiver.htm

August 11, 2011, 07:51 PM	#4
rdf.hack Senior Member Join Date: June 7, 2011 Posts: 173	@American Eagle True, but some round receiver 91/30s shoot better, they have not been in service as long as a prewar

August 11, 2011, 08:07 PM	#5
American Eagle Senior Member Join Date: March 20, 2009 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 265	@Reddaemonfox, That's also true. My 1934 is not the most accurate in the world. It will only manage 4 inch groups at 100 yards (could be the ammo, I am using low end Soviet surplus bullets which are quite nasty) but probably more to the fact that it was refinished at Soviet arsenals once or twice during the war. But I like it since it is the most historic firearm I have. God knows how many NAZI that thing killed, and how many Russian soldiers fought and died holding my rifle. So I can forgive the wear and tear and less than stellar accuracy in light of the history that rifle went through. And considering I only paid $80 for it a few years ago, I can't complain. __________________ I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them. ----THOMAS JEFFERSON

August 13, 2011, 04:05 PM	#6
Tigerclaw78 Member Join Date: February 12, 2011 Posts: 18	yep mike that is what i have thanks for the info. wish i could have found that when i was searching, also i spoke with a smith this morning that confirmed that it is normal.