Thin 9mm - Page 3

DHart · December 27, 2012, 09:15 PM

Fargazer wrote: "Sig Sauer P938 - A friend loves his; however, he cautions that it takes a break in period before he considers it reliable."

As well, NO gun should be considered ready for defense use until the 500-round reliability run with carry ammo is proven, successfully completed. This is a costly, but necessary test that any carry gun should be subjected to if you are to rely on it when the chips are down.

giaquir · December 28, 2012, 07:04 AM

S%W 3914

DarthPete · December 28, 2012, 08:52 AM

I love my Beretta Nano. It's fun to shoot and has had zero issues.

That said the Sig P938 is on my 'someday' list.

afone1 · December 28, 2012, 10:58 AM

This is the best slim 9mm on the market. Best quality, best price:

http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=504837

Mello2u · December 28, 2012, 12:43 PM

http://www.fatwallet.com/static/atta...mparison_1.pdf

The above link will bring up a .pdf which graphically shows ten 9 x 19mm small handguns (as well as some others).
It has specifications (such as: Operation, Capacity, Barrel/Overall Length, Height, Width, Weight Empty, & Weight Fully Loaded) and prices as of mid 2011.

If you are visually oriented you might find it useful.

Sixer · December 28, 2012, 01:05 PM

Quote:

This is the best slim 9mm on the market. Best quality, best price:

http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=504837

That's a pretty bold opinion, haha.

My top three that I have experience with -

- Walther PPS
- M&P Shield
- Kahr PM9 / CM9

If weight is no issue... then the H&K P7... FTW!

TheSmilingSwordsman · December 28, 2012, 06:22 PM

Shield #1
Nano #2

sirviveme · December 28, 2012, 06:29 PM

Try the CM9...small and thin and affordable.

BigD_in_FL · December 28, 2012, 09:44 PM

Go find Bob O's mouse gun chart if you want to do a serious size comparison.

You will see that the smallest 9mm is still the Rohrbaugh, and it is still, the priciest.

The Kahr CM9 and the PM9 are close and a lot less.

steponapoptop · January 1, 2013, 10:18 AM

Love the feel of the Kahr cm9.

gallenl · January 1, 2013, 04:49 PM

I chose the Kimber Solo & am very happy with it.

bitttorrrent · January 2, 2013, 01:35 AM

Darthpete

I was looking at baretta catalog and noticed a firing pin disable? near back of gun. What is that?
The nano looks to be pretty advanced.
How is it in size compared to say shield and how you like trigger.
My px4 I love but da is long and a bit heavy_sa is good but not short. Would look for improvement on this.

NWCP · January 2, 2013, 05:40 AM

The Kahr PM9 (this is the model I own) or the new CM9 (not as fancy, but very compact). 9mm Luger round in a true sub compact pistol. That's the only way to go for deep concealed carry.

MLeake · January 2, 2013, 09:10 AM

bitttorrrent, most if not all new Berettas have firing pin blocks, that only lift out of the way when the trigger is pulled. On the M9 / 92 series, these are rectangular, on the PX4 they look more cylindrical.

I suspect that's what was referred to on the Nano, but I could be wrong.

BoneDigger · January 2, 2013, 07:58 PM

I went with an LC9 and am very happy.

Todd

Fargazer · January 3, 2013, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DHart

NO gun should be considered ready for defense use until the 500-round reliability run with carry ammo is proven

My apologies, this is just a matter of terminology. Let me clarify: while reliability testing, my friend ran into some issues with feeding ammo and with the ejector. Once he found the right ammo, and once Sig replaced the ejector, it successfully passed his reliability run. I'm calling the time he spent getting it to work properly his "break in period", separate from his reliability run.

On the other hand, my Walther P99 went for 2000 rounds without a failure out of the box - no "break in period" to get it working before it could pass a reliability test.

Hope that makes more sense

Dashunde · January 3, 2013, 03:58 PM

Since the subject matter here is "thin 9mm" and that applies directly to the smallest/shortest pistols - I think that 500 rounds of "proving" may be excessive for some models.. not because they wont take it, but because some of them should have a new recoil spring or the extractor may be wearing by then.
Proving it out too far may be counterproductive if a part needs/should be replaced. You'd have to start all over, then repeat.

A few brands require 200 rounds of "break in" and I'm fine with that, once accomplished with no issues from 50 thru 200 I call it good, with 200-1000+/- being the sweet spot of expected reliablity. YMMV.

cdsdss · January 3, 2013, 08:00 PM

+1 on the PPS. I think it's a great little gun. The P7 is also an excellent choice, but a pricey one.

December 28, 2012, 12:43 PM	#55
Mello2u Senior Member Join Date: February 21, 2009 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,424	http://www.fatwallet.com/static/atta...mparison_1.pdf The above link will bring up a .pdf which graphically shows ten 9 x 19mm small handguns (as well as some others). It has specifications (such as: Operation, Capacity, Barrel/Overall Length, Height, Width, Weight Empty, & Weight Fully Loaded) and prices as of mid 2011. If you are visually oriented you might find it useful. __________________ NRA Life Member - Orange Gunsite Member - NRA Certified Pistol Instructor "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." Frederic Bastiat

January 3, 2013, 08:00 PM	#68
cdsdss Senior Member Join Date: November 22, 2005 Location: Wash. DC Posts: 147	+1 on the PPS. I think it's a great little gun. The P7 is also an excellent choice, but a pricey one. __________________ Walthers PPK/s, PPS, P99AS, P99cAS, P5C, S&Ws 1076, 4576, ASP 9mm, Sig P229, P239, Bren Ten.

December 27, 2012, 09:15 PM	#51
DHart Senior Member Join Date: February 23, 2005 Posts: 591	Fargazer wrote: "Sig Sauer P938 - A friend loves his; however, he cautions that it takes a break in period before he considers it reliable." As well, NO gun should be considered ready for defense use until the 500-round reliability run with carry ammo is proven, successfully completed. This is a costly, but necessary test that any carry gun should be subjected to if you are to rely on it when the chips are down.

December 28, 2012, 07:04 AM	#52
giaquir Senior Member Join Date: July 26, 2006 Location: Deerfield,New Hampshire Posts: 512	S%W 3914

December 28, 2012, 08:52 AM	#53
DarthPete Member Join Date: April 9, 2012 Posts: 19	I love my Beretta Nano. It's fun to shoot and has had zero issues. That said the Sig P938 is on my 'someday' list.

December 28, 2012, 10:58 AM	#54
afone1 Senior Member Join Date: February 26, 2011 Posts: 120	This is the best slim 9mm on the market. Best quality, best price: http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=504837

December 28, 2012, 06:22 PM	#57
TheSmilingSwordsman Member Join Date: February 28, 2012 Posts: 37	Shield #1 Nano #2

December 28, 2012, 06:29 PM	#58
sirviveme Junior Member Join Date: August 10, 2012 Posts: 9	Try the CM9...small and thin and affordable.

December 28, 2012, 09:44 PM	#59
BigD_in_FL Junior member Join Date: December 20, 2012 Location: The "Gunshine State" Posts: 1,981	Go find Bob O's mouse gun chart if you want to do a serious size comparison. You will see that the smallest 9mm is still the Rohrbaugh, and it is still, the priciest. The Kahr CM9 and the PM9 are close and a lot less.

January 1, 2013, 10:18 AM	#60
steponapoptop Member Join Date: November 4, 2012 Posts: 23	Love the feel of the Kahr cm9.

January 1, 2013, 04:49 PM	#61
gallenl Junior Member Join Date: December 23, 2012 Posts: 4	I chose the Kimber Solo & am very happy with it.

January 2, 2013, 01:35 AM	#62
bitttorrrent Senior Member Join Date: April 21, 2011 Location: Chicago Posts: 703	Darthpete I was looking at baretta catalog and noticed a firing pin disable? near back of gun. What is that? The nano looks to be pretty advanced. How is it in size compared to say shield and how you like trigger. My px4 I love but da is long and a bit heavy_sa is good but not short. Would look for improvement on this.

January 2, 2013, 05:40 AM	#63
NWCP Senior Member Join Date: December 24, 2006 Posts: 1,903	The Kahr PM9 (this is the model I own) or the new CM9 (not as fancy, but very compact). 9mm Luger round in a true sub compact pistol. That's the only way to go for deep concealed carry.

January 2, 2013, 09:10 AM	#64
MLeake Senior Member Join Date: November 15, 2007 Location: Outside KC, MO Posts: 10,128	bitttorrrent, most if not all new Berettas have firing pin blocks, that only lift out of the way when the trigger is pulled. On the M9 / 92 series, these are rectangular, on the PX4 they look more cylindrical. I suspect that's what was referred to on the Nano, but I could be wrong.

January 2, 2013, 07:58 PM	#65
BoneDigger Senior Member Join Date: July 22, 2005 Location: Tyler, TX Posts: 660	I went with an LC9 and am very happy. Todd

January 3, 2013, 03:58 PM	#67
Dashunde Senior Member Join Date: December 22, 2004 Posts: 2,018	Since the subject matter here is "thin 9mm" and that applies directly to the smallest/shortest pistols - I think that 500 rounds of "proving" may be excessive for some models.. not because they wont take it, but because some of them should have a new recoil spring or the extractor may be wearing by then. Proving it out too far may be counterproductive if a part needs/should be replaced. You'd have to start all over, then repeat. A few brands require 200 rounds of "break in" and I'm fine with that, once accomplished with no issues from 50 thru 200 I call it good, with 200-1000+/- being the sweet spot of expected reliablity. YMMV.