This is fast

9x45 · March 12, 2016, 10:50 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpKv6TJMq0Q

**JohnKSa** · March 12, 2016, 11:13 PM

I make it between 0.5 and 0.6 seconds from the beeper to the first shot--give or take a tenth. Maybe Brian can give us a more precise figure using his video editing software.

Based on where he first has the gun out of the holster, it appears that if he had started with his hand on the gun and the gun out of the holster, his time from the beeper to the first shot would have been between 0.3 and 0.4 seconds, maybe a little faster.

9x45 · March 12, 2016, 11:24 PM

Nope, hands at sides, standard USPSA start position.

**JohnKSa** · March 12, 2016, 11:30 PM

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Nope, hands at sides, standard USPSA start position.

I noticed that.

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Originally Posted by JohnKSa

Based on where he first has the gun out of the holster, it appears that if he had started with his hand on the gun and the gun out of the holster, his time from the beeper to the first shot would have been between 0.3 and 0.4 seconds, maybe a little faster.

9x45 · March 12, 2016, 11:38 PM

Well, it's not a legal USPSA classifier stage, because it's done on steel, not a scored target, but still blazing. He's pushing .13 splits.

**JohnKSa** · March 12, 2016, 11:57 PM

It is very fast indeed.

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He's pushing .13 splits.

6 shots with 0.13 splits would be 0.65 seconds from the first shot to the last shot. A total time of 1.11 seconds (from the video) would indicate that his first shot came at about 0.46 seconds after the buzzer. Looks like the estimate in my first post was close--just a hair on the high side.

So if he can react from the buzzer, draw and shoot his first shot in less than half a second, it seems a given that IF he were to run the drill again starting with his gun already in his hand and out of the holster, he could get his first shot on target in well under 0.4 seconds.

HiBC · March 13, 2016, 08:22 AM

Ed McGivvern did some fast and fancy shooting long ago.I've enjoyed what Jerry Miculek does.

So you found a vid of someone else shooting real fast.Thats nice.He is real fast.

Obviously,this is in response to kraig's post.

Someone has a very narrow focus on games.Everything is measured by "The Game" everything is compared to "The Game"

And some folks just don't care about games.

I'm all in favor of Real Life Dangerous Women.

And I appreciate the efforts of a Gentleman who helps them better than anyone else they are likely to come across in a small town in Out Yonder Wyo.

9x45 · March 13, 2016, 10:26 AM

The only explanation for this is that God is on his side....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nH1HioAHPW4

Neal_G. · March 13, 2016, 01:37 PM

I don't think God, if he takes any sides, could be against defenseless cardboard cutouts.

That aside, holy crap that guy is fast!

TXAZ · March 13, 2016, 02:14 PM

I believe that comes out to ~540 rounds per minute, almost 1/2 the burst rate of a Glock 18, and close to the full auto 600 rpm of many full autos.

But the skill was impressive.
Thanks for the link.

johnwilliamson062 · March 13, 2016, 07:28 PM

I don't want to know how many rounds he sent down range practicing that "close retention" shooting. That has always been a real problem shot for me. Easy to limp wrist, easy to have the slide recoil into something and cause a malfunction, etc.

He actually has another training video on it I enjoyed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oVV2Awjfj4
He does a better job instructing than most I see. He is organized and reasonably eloquent.

The speed of a serious shooter, whether an instructor, competitive shooter, or, I dare say, an "operator", is entirely different than the speed of a new shooter taking classes once or twice a month for half a year. An instructor, who can get an inexperienced shooter on target in a little under half a second following 12 or so large group lessons, has nothing to be ashamed of IMO.

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could be against defenseless cardboard cutouts.

Ask someone who works in a packaging plant or shipping department if that cardboard is defenseless!

couldbeanyone · March 13, 2016, 10:41 PM

The shooter in the original posters you tube link is my shooting buddy Kelly. I shoot with him almost every weekend. He was a little younger in that video, but he is still plenty fast and accurate. A very good competitive shooter and a heck of a nice guy. A better ambassador for the shooting sports you couldn't find.

March 12, 2016, 10:50 PM	#1
9x45 Senior Member Join Date: January 14, 2000 Location: Southern California Posts: 1,089	This is fast https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpKv6TJMq0Q __________________ Sometimes my Glock forgets where to look.....

March 12, 2016, 11:13 PM	#2
JohnKSa Staff Join Date: February 12, 2001 Location: DFW Area Posts: 24,993	I make it between 0.5 and 0.6 seconds from the beeper to the first shot--give or take a tenth. Maybe Brian can give us a more precise figure using his video editing software. Based on where he first has the gun out of the holster, it appears that if he had started with his hand on the gun and the gun out of the holster, his time from the beeper to the first shot would have been between 0.3 and 0.4 seconds, maybe a little faster. __________________ Do you know about the TEXAS State Rifle Association?

March 12, 2016, 11:24 PM	#3
9x45 Senior Member Join Date: January 14, 2000 Location: Southern California Posts: 1,089	Nope, hands at sides, standard USPSA start position. __________________ Sometimes my Glock forgets where to look.....

March 12, 2016, 11:38 PM	#5
9x45 Senior Member Join Date: January 14, 2000 Location: Southern California Posts: 1,089	Well, it's not a legal USPSA classifier stage, because it's done on steel, not a scored target, but still blazing. He's pushing .13 splits. __________________ Sometimes my Glock forgets where to look.....

March 13, 2016, 10:26 AM	#8
9x45 Senior Member Join Date: January 14, 2000 Location: Southern California Posts: 1,089	The only explanation for this is that God is on his side.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nH1HioAHPW4 __________________ Sometimes my Glock forgets where to look.....

March 13, 2016, 08:22 AM	#7
HiBC Senior Member Join Date: November 13, 2006 Posts: 8,288	Ed McGivvern did some fast and fancy shooting long ago.I've enjoyed what Jerry Miculek does. So you found a vid of someone else shooting real fast.Thats nice.He is real fast. Obviously,this is in response to kraig's post. Someone has a very narrow focus on games.Everything is measured by "The Game" everything is compared to "The Game" And some folks just don't care about games. I'm all in favor of Real Life Dangerous Women. And I appreciate the efforts of a Gentleman who helps them better than anyone else they are likely to come across in a small town in Out Yonder Wyo.

March 13, 2016, 01:37 PM	#9
Neal_G. Senior Member Join Date: October 1, 2010 Posts: 226	I don't think God, if he takes any sides, could be against defenseless cardboard cutouts. That aside, holy crap that guy is fast!

March 13, 2016, 02:14 PM	#10
TXAZ Senior Member Join Date: September 5, 2010 Location: McMurdo Sound Texas Posts: 4,322	I believe that comes out to ~540 rounds per minute, almost 1/2 the burst rate of a Glock 18, and close to the full auto 600 rpm of many full autos. But the skill was impressive. Thanks for the link. __________________ Cave illos in guns et backhoes

March 13, 2016, 10:41 PM	#12
couldbeanyone Senior Member Join Date: March 11, 2006 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 139	The shooter in the original posters you tube link is my shooting buddy Kelly. I shoot with him almost every weekend. He was a little younger in that video, but he is still plenty fast and accurate. A very good competitive shooter and a heck of a nice guy. A better ambassador for the shooting sports you couldn't find.