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Armscor k-frame-ish .38 spl | 2 | 5.13% | |
EAA Windicator | 2 | 5.13% | |
Charter Arms | 21 | 53.85% | |
Other (please suggest) | 14 | 35.90% | |
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June 14, 2018, 10:55 AM | #1 |
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The "other" revolvers
I have a friend who is a firearms instructor with a military-only background. He wants to learn revolvers enough to teach the students who show up for his classes with one.
Now here is the deal: He should know better, and I have tried to tell him so, but he wants to buy a CHEAP DA revolver. I have told him that real revolvers are made by Smith, Colt, Ruger, Kimber, and maybe Taurus, but he ain't having any. Of the following, which one would you guys choose? Armscor EAA Windicator Charter Arms Other (Please name)
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I would choose Charter Arms most definitely,,,
They are well made pistols with a good warranty. And they are USA manufactured,,, No problems getting one worked on. I own three CA's and they all perform very well for me. Armscor and EAA both have a rep for really poor service after the sale. Aarond .
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Occasionally you can find used revolvers at a good price. S&W model 10s, along with the old ruger six series, can still be found at a similar price point to new charter or armscor stuff. I vote that he look around on armslist and gunbroker and pick up a model 10. He can own a functional piece of history that will appreciate in value.
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June 14, 2018, 11:49 AM | #4 |
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From a cheap revolver he knows nothing about, this guy's gonna learn how to ..."teach."
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June 14, 2018, 11:54 AM | #5 |
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Your assertions that price somehow equals reliability aside, please tell me the short comings, aside from finer triggers and good polish jobs, how EAA, armscor and Charter arms are inferior. The aforementioned revolvers are just fine and dandy if you are not the type to attach your ego to the brand. They work. Rugers and Smith get sent back all the time, soooo...
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I own two Charter Arms revolvers that I've had for about five years apiece that go bang every time and have given me no problems. I haven't owned the other two. As others have said and will say, you can get a better used revolver for the same money as a cheap new one.
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I wonder,,,
I wonder if the instructor's mindset is to teach with a low cost weapon?
Perhaps his intent is to show you don't need to spend a ton of money for a serviceable self defense handgun. Just tossin' this out. Aarond .
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"Of the following, which one would you guys choose?
Armscor EAA Windicator Charter Arms Other (Please name) All mine are Colt's, S&W or Rugers. The only others I'd suggest are Dan Wesson and if I had the $$ to throw around, maybe a Korth. |
June 14, 2018, 02:41 PM | #10 |
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I have Colts, S&Ws, Taurus, Rossi, and Charter revolvers.
I wouldn't hesitate to use any of them for defense. |
June 14, 2018, 02:42 PM | #11 |
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Consider getting whatever is most common and most often students show up with.
If I showed up at a class and the trainer had an armscor revolver I'd assume that he doesn't know much about revolvers and in this case it sounds like I'd be correct. I would assume a training gun is going to be used frequently and often times by inexperienced people. I'd think shelling out a little extra for a used GP100 would be reasonable solution at $450 to $500. |
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Gotta seriously question someone who wants to teach something he knows nothing about, and wants to get buy with a cheap model.
Tell him to look for a S&W Model 10. There are plenty of used ones out there, many can be had for less than the brand new ones, and the old ones are better anyway. Quote:
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Staying on topic with the OP, I would opt for the Charter for the reasons others gave.
But the level of "teaching" I would expect from this feller would be limited to "Hey guys, keep the hole pointed away from you and don't pull the trigger if there's a person, clubhouse, or car in front of it." I once shot in a club where they were letting a guy shoot a Colt "Thunderer" right next to me. These are NOT guns for modern ammo. I asked if they were gonna ALLOW him to shoot that grenade and got the reply that it was "all he had." I left the range. |
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Yes, Lavan, that's exactly what he intends to do, as any competent shooter should be able to. Using an Armscor or Charter Arms revolver will put him through the exact same steps as a Smith or Colt. He is only using it for demonstration purposes.
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Someone just lock the flippin thread or delete it. I didn't come here for this.
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June 14, 2018, 05:13 PM | #18 |
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Great idea Sam!!
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I voted "other" before reading the full post, thinking Uberti. Didn't realize it was limited to those new self cocking revolvers.
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June 14, 2018, 09:22 PM | #20 |
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I voted Charter Arms. There are many budget firearms that work just as well as the premium brands. My guess is that most new shooters looking for a little instruction are not going to be revolver divas.
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Sam don't get discouraged. A few here haven't been overly critical. I can absolutely understand that there may be trainers today (younger and less experienced, but competent) that aren't revolver people and don't have much experience with a revolver. I had my dad's revolver from about 20 years old on, and it was my first handgun, but I quickly gravitated to semi auto and didn't buy my own revolver until 8 years ago. Don't get too discouraged.
I still think an older model 10 would serve anyone well as a first revolver.
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S&W M10.
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I clicked "other" by mistake, but of those listed, I've got experience with Charter Arms and have found them to be lacking in nothing.
The others I know nothing about, other than they seem a bit ugly to me. However, for demonstration purposes only, I suppose one would be just as good as the other.
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