Question about 44 cal Percussion Revolver

Smooth Pate Pete · November 21, 2008, 09:27 AM

I am new to this forum but have been shooting cap & ball for quite some time. My question is about the projectile. I have only shot .451 lead ball in my Colt and remington 44's.
1. Has anyone shot a .451 conical in them?
2. Can you shoot a conical bullet in a cap & ball pistol?
3. If so, does shooting a conical change the load at all?
4. Is a .451 conical available?

Your feedback is much appreciated.

grymster2007 · November 21, 2008, 10:09 AM

They can shoot conicals.

They might limit just how much powder you can stuff in the hole, but I think it still works out OK.

Raider2000 sells some .450 conicals that would probably do the trick. He's a stand-up guy and a pleasure to do business with.

Here:

Conicals

simonkenton · November 21, 2008, 10:55 AM

During the Civil War the troopers were issued paper wrapped cartridges for their cap and ball pistols. These contained the powder and a conical slug.
But, experienced troopers found that the round ball was a better man-killer than the conical slug, and when possible they loaded their pistols with the round balls.

Are you getting good performance with that .451 round ball? Does it shave a little lead "donut" when you load the ball?

fastforty · November 21, 2008, 04:15 PM

I crossed paths with an elderly gentleman at the range a few years back (we were the only two people there). He was shooting a Ruger .44 BP & I was shooting my Remmie .44. We shared great company & conversation. He gave me a handful of the conicals that he was shooting to try in my Remmie but there wasn't enough clearance to get them under the ram rod.

When he got ready to leave, he came over to my bench and gave me nearly a pound of black powder & a couple tins of caps. I thanked him profusely for the gift and company, but as he walked away I was saddened that he knew it would be his last trip to the range. On the other hand, I felt blessed to have made company with him on that day.

madcratebuilder · November 23, 2008, 01:12 PM

Quote:

He gave me a handful of the conicals that he was shooting to try in my Remmie but there wasn't enough clearance to get them under the ram rod.

That's my experience also. Some revolvers do not of the clearance for a conical bullet.

November 21, 2008, 09:27 AM	#1
Smooth Pate Pete Junior Member Join Date: November 5, 2008 Location: PA Posts: 2	Question about 44 cal Percussion Revolver I am new to this forum but have been shooting cap & ball for quite some time. My question is about the projectile. I have only shot .451 lead ball in my Colt and remington 44's. 1. Has anyone shot a .451 conical in them? 2. Can you shoot a conical bullet in a cap & ball pistol? 3. If so, does shooting a conical change the load at all? 4. Is a .451 conical available? Your feedback is much appreciated. __________________ Smooth Pate Pete "Never approach a bull from the front, a horse from the rear, or a fool from any direction." Last edited by Smooth Pate Pete; November 21, 2008 at 09:29 AM. Reason: Wanted to add another question.

November 21, 2008, 10:09 AM	#2
grymster2007 Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2007 Location: In the oak studded hills near Napa Posts: 2,203	They can shoot conicals. They might limit just how much powder you can stuff in the hole, but I think it still works out OK. Raider2000 sells some .450 conicals that would probably do the trick. He's a stand-up guy and a pleasure to do business with. Here: Conicals __________________ grym

November 21, 2008, 04:15 PM	#4
fastforty Senior Member Join Date: December 28, 1999 Location: In a kornfield in kalifornia Posts: 1,161	I crossed paths with an elderly gentleman at the range a few years back (we were the only two people there). He was shooting a Ruger .44 BP & I was shooting my Remmie .44. We shared great company & conversation. He gave me a handful of the conicals that he was shooting to try in my Remmie but there wasn't enough clearance to get them under the ram rod. When he got ready to leave, he came over to my bench and gave me nearly a pound of black powder & a couple tins of caps. I thanked him profusely for the gift and company, but as he walked away I was saddened that he knew it would be his last trip to the range. On the other hand, I felt blessed to have made company with him on that day. __________________ When Banjos are outlawed, only Outlaws will have Banjos The Bible is my lawbook. I turn the other cheek when applicable, and spend the rest of my days resisting evil at every front, until I have breathed my last breath.

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November 21, 2008, 10:55 AM	#3
simonkenton Senior Member Join Date: April 25, 2008 Posts: 891	During the Civil War the troopers were issued paper wrapped cartridges for their cap and ball pistols. These contained the powder and a conical slug. But, experienced troopers found that the round ball was a better man-killer than the conical slug, and when possible they loaded their pistols with the round balls. Are you getting good performance with that .451 round ball? Does it shave a little lead "donut" when you load the ball?