murdocks guns Beretta 92fs

robert h · November 10, 2021, 05:10 PM

I'm in the market for a Beretta 92fs (new) and poking around the web I found some at a place called Murdock's gun shop (https://murdocksguns.com/). It's hard to find on a web search cause it wants to send to Murdoch's (with an h instead of a k) so easiest way is cut and past that link. They have lots of different models of 92fs in 9mm, and a few are priced around 450 bucks while everyone else in the world is about 600+. As I scrolled thru other guns on the site, they are all like that--lots cheaper than anyone else. I chatted with them and ask it the one I wanted was in stock, and they said everything on the site is in stock. Note they show over 6000 items just in auto handguns. At this point my "too good to be true" alarm went off, and I put this purchase on hold until I can learn a little more. My question to the group is, has anyone done business with these guys? Or heard anything about them? Do they even exist?
If your web browser is like mine, it will try pretty hard to send you to Murdoch's, which looks like a pretty nice chain of stores that sells the 92fs for $629 which until today I would say was a decent price. So don't be fooled. Mudocks is there, just hard to get to. thanks for any input.

Jim Watson · November 10, 2021, 05:19 PM

Payment methods are spooky.

No street number.

wild cat mccane · November 11, 2021, 08:55 AM

Any place that doesn't accept a standard credit card is fake.

They aren't getting guns for cheaper by having Western Union payments.

In fact, I get 5% back on all my purchases with my credit card. That means other people have to pay what I get. They don't magically pay and charge less with other means.

Ask them for a copy of THEIR FFL.

Either way, non of their payments are protected. That's a junk scam.

robert h · November 11, 2021, 04:56 PM

Thanks for the responses. Confirms my suspicions.

blchandl2 · November 11, 2021, 05:26 PM

The road they give as their address is a residential area. At best they are selling guns out of their home and trying to dodge the IRS with their payment options.

Doc Intrepid · November 11, 2021, 05:35 PM

With over 6000 auto handguns currently in stock, they must have one hell of a basement...

Jim Watson · November 11, 2021, 06:13 PM

I'd like to call the number given... but not from my own phone.

blchandl2 · November 12, 2021, 06:15 PM

Davidson's is probably storing their stock for them.

KyJim · November 12, 2021, 11:12 PM

A WHOIS lookup shows they created the domain name May 17, 2021.

And no FFL listing of the name murdochs or murdoch from ATF for the month of May 2021.

Willie Lowman · November 13, 2021, 11:24 AM

Sounds like a scam to me

FairWarning · November 13, 2021, 12:31 PM

I have noticed a LOT of fake gun websites this year, more than any other in my life.

Including one called czgunstore.com, which "miraculously" had all the super rare CZs in stock I've been thinking about lately and "miraculously" is about $100-$200 cheaper than any other source on the net for sub $1000 guns.

They use the official CZ-USA logo and product descriptions, but real CZ says it does NOT sell directly to the public. And of course, czgunstore.com will gladly sell directly to you, although they don't list their physical address!

It something seems too good to be true, it usually is. They should be sued and the owners JAILED. Then their website should banished permanently.

Gotta do your homework and search reviews/complaints, etc, before buying. I'll gladly pay a little more for a trustworthy, stable vendor.

Sgt127 · November 13, 2021, 11:21 PM

I found a place selling ammo. Same thing. Bank draft, Venmo etc.
felt hinky. Google confirmed, scam.

Useful tool I found on ARF.com

https://www.scam-detector.com/find-scams/

Groundhog34 · November 17, 2021, 10:38 AM

If the AFT wanted to do something useful they would investigate scam sites like this.

Average Joe · November 19, 2021, 09:24 AM

There is also a fake Glock website , so be careful

Ricklin · November 19, 2021, 06:45 PM

Guys you would not believe the hoops I must jump through to install my imaging system computers inside prisons.
Because the prisons have lots of computer crooks, it's a growth industry.

Jack19 · November 29, 2021, 03:39 PM

Phone number comes back to another company. Read the reviews.

https://www.bbb.org/us/nm/albuquerqu...-0806-99169383

November 10, 2021, 05:10 PM	#1
robert h Junior Member Join Date: November 10, 2021 Posts: 3	murdocks guns Beretta 92fs I'm in the market for a Beretta 92fs (new) and poking around the web I found some at a place called Murdock's gun shop (https://murdocksguns.com/). It's hard to find on a web search cause it wants to send to Murdoch's (with an h instead of a k) so easiest way is cut and past that link. They have lots of different models of 92fs in 9mm, and a few are priced around 450 bucks while everyone else in the world is about 600+. As I scrolled thru other guns on the site, they are all like that--lots cheaper than anyone else. I chatted with them and ask it the one I wanted was in stock, and they said everything on the site is in stock. Note they show over 6000 items just in auto handguns. At this point my "too good to be true" alarm went off, and I put this purchase on hold until I can learn a little more. My question to the group is, has anyone done business with these guys? Or heard anything about them? Do they even exist? If your web browser is like mine, it will try pretty hard to send you to Murdoch's, which looks like a pretty nice chain of stores that sells the 92fs for $629 which until today I would say was a decent price. So don't be fooled. Mudocks is there, just hard to get to. thanks for any input.

November 11, 2021, 08:55 AM	#3
wild cat mccane Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2011 Posts: 3,627	Any place that doesn't accept a standard credit card is fake. They aren't getting guns for cheaper by having Western Union payments. In fact, I get 5% back on all my purchases with my credit card. That means other people have to pay what I get. They don't magically pay and charge less with other means. Ask them for a copy of THEIR FFL. Either way, non of their payments are protected. That's a junk scam. __________________ My wife is a pulmonologist (respiratory Dr) and epidemiologist. If you have any questions on COVID, please reach out to me in PM.

November 11, 2021, 05:35 PM	#6
Doc Intrepid Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2009 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,037	With over 6000 auto handguns currently in stock, they must have one hell of a basement... __________________ *Treat everyone you meet with dignity and respect....but have a plan to kill them just in case.*

November 13, 2021, 11:24 AM	#10
Willie Lowman Senior Member Join Date: March 5, 2009 Location: Uh-Hi-O Posts: 3,006	Sounds like a scam to me __________________ "9mm has a very long history of being a pointy little bullet moving quickly" --Sevens

November 13, 2021, 12:31 PM	#11
FairWarning Senior Member Join Date: September 9, 2008 Location: GA Posts: 1,149	I have noticed a LOT of fake gun websites this year, more than any other in my life. Including one called czgunstore.com, which "miraculously" had all the super rare CZs in stock I've been thinking about lately and "miraculously" is about $100-$200 cheaper than any other source on the net for sub $1000 guns. They use the official CZ-USA logo and product descriptions, but real CZ says it does NOT sell directly to the public. And of course, czgunstore.com will gladly sell directly to you, although they don't list their physical address! It something seems too good to be true, it usually is. They should be sued and the owners JAILED. Then their website should banished permanently. Gotta do your homework and search reviews/complaints, etc, before buying. I'll gladly pay a little more for a trustworthy, stable vendor. __________________ Mauser Werke, Schmidt-Rubin, Colt, Walther, HK, Weatherby, Sig Sauer, Browning, Ruger, Beretta, etc, etc....a few friends of mine

November 10, 2021, 05:19 PM	#2
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,543	Payment methods are spooky. No street number.

November 11, 2021, 04:56 PM	#4
robert h Junior Member Join Date: November 10, 2021 Posts: 3	Thanks for the responses. Confirms my suspicions.

November 11, 2021, 05:26 PM	#5
blchandl2 Senior Member Join Date: November 1, 2008 Location: TN Posts: 526	The road they give as their address is a residential area. At best they are selling guns out of their home and trying to dodge the IRS with their payment options.

November 11, 2021, 06:13 PM	#7
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,543	I'd like to call the number given... but not from my own phone.

November 12, 2021, 06:15 PM	#8
blchandl2 Senior Member Join Date: November 1, 2008 Location: TN Posts: 526	Davidson's is probably storing their stock for them.

November 12, 2021, 11:12 PM	#9
KyJim Senior Member Join Date: July 26, 2005 Location: The Bluegrass Posts: 9,142	A WHOIS lookup shows they created the domain name May 17, 2021. And no FFL listing of the name murdochs or murdoch from ATF for the month of May 2021.

November 13, 2021, 11:21 PM	#12
Sgt127 Senior Member Join Date: May 13, 2002 Posts: 1,053	I found a place selling ammo. Same thing. Bank draft, Venmo etc. felt hinky. Google confirmed, scam. Useful tool I found on ARF.com https://www.scam-detector.com/find-scams/ Last edited by Sgt127; November 16, 2021 at 12:21 AM.

November 17, 2021, 10:38 AM	#13
Groundhog34 Senior Member Join Date: December 15, 2007 Location: Alabama Posts: 196	If the AFT wanted to do something useful they would investigate scam sites like this. __________________ "they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name 666." Revelation 13:11

November 19, 2021, 09:24 AM	#14
Average Joe Senior Member Join Date: August 29, 2005 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,325	There is also a fake Glock website , so be careful

November 19, 2021, 06:45 PM	#15
Ricklin Senior Member Join Date: February 22, 2008 Location: SW Washington state Posts: 2,013	Guys you would not believe the hoops I must jump through to install my imaging system computers inside prisons. Because the prisons have lots of computer crooks, it's a growth industry. __________________ ricklin Freedom is not free

November 29, 2021, 03:39 PM	#16
Jack19 Senior Member Join Date: August 18, 2001 Location: Somewhere in the Ford Galaxy Posts: 713	Phone number comes back to another company. Read the reviews. https://www.bbb.org/us/nm/albuquerqu...-0806-99169383 __________________ Liberty will not long survive the total extinction of morals. Samuel Adams