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Old November 27, 2020, 02:59 PM   #1
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Thin hammer fired .40 s&w

A few years back I picked up a Sig P229 in .40 for a steal (only have revolvers, but it was too good to pass up). Fast forward a few years and I got my concealed carry permit. Have tried a couple holsters but my revolvers and p229 are just too thick as I am very thin and always wear my shirt tucked in.

What's a good, thin, compact, single stack .40 S&W with a hammer?
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Old November 27, 2020, 03:05 PM   #2
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A few years back I picked up a Sig P229 in .40 for a steal (only have revolvers, but it was too good to pass up). Fast forward a few years and I got my concealed carry permit. Have tried a couple holsters but my revolvers and p229 are just too thick as I am very thin and always wear my shirt tucked in.



What's a good, thin, compact, single stack .40 S&W with a hammer?
A few years back I had a similar pursuit. IIRC, a thin hammer fired 40 doesn't really exist.

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Old November 27, 2020, 03:09 PM   #3
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Sig P239 comes to mind. I have one in .357Sig. Great shooter. It’s fairly heavy though.
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Old November 27, 2020, 04:46 PM   #4
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I should clarify that they were made in 9mm and 40S&W as well.
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Old November 27, 2020, 04:54 PM   #5
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http://www.amderringer.com/m1.html
Hammer-fired, but not semiauto; American Derringer, available in .40.
There always seems to be someone looking for a product which no longer exists or no longer being made. Even if still a current catalog item, firearms are so hard-to-get right now, along with ammo

Also, BondArms.com has .40 barrels to add to its own derringers.
https://www.bondarms.com/shop/gun-ba...ead-blasted-l/
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Old November 27, 2020, 04:59 PM   #6
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The original striker fired Walther PPS (M1) came in 9mm and 40 S&W, I believe these are out of production. The PPS-M2 is still in production but does not come in 40 S&W. I have a 9mm PPS-M2 and I can attest to the fact that it shoots the heavier bullet weight JHP defensive loads beautifully. I can recommend the PPS-M2 in 9mm.
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Old November 27, 2020, 05:08 PM   #7
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STI LS40, if you can find one.
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XDE. Don't think they're still made in .40, but some might still be findable.
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Old November 27, 2020, 08:00 PM   #9
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What's a good, thin, compact, single stack .40 S&W with a hammer?
1911, of course.

Although it's a double stack, a Hi-Power isn't much bigger than a 1911.
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Old November 27, 2020, 08:08 PM   #10
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A .40 BHP and the 3rd Gen S&W’s are the first ones that come to mind.
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Old November 27, 2020, 08:22 PM   #11
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See if you can find a CZ P06. It's the p01 in 40 caliber. No longer made I could never find one. And I was looking when they where still made.
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Old November 27, 2020, 09:26 PM   #12
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A .40 BHP and the 3rd Gen S&W’s are the first ones that come to mind.
Perhaps some, but not all. For example, my 4006TSW has a wide grip.
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Old November 27, 2020, 11:35 PM   #13
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https://cz-usa.com/product/cz-2075-rami-40/

The CZ RAMI in 40S&W is discontinued and is a double stack, but it otherwise meets all the criteria.
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Old November 28, 2020, 12:00 AM   #14
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What's a good, thin, compact, single stack .40 S&W with a hammer
Look at the HK P2000, but I think that's a double stack. There are also a couple of 1911's that chamber in 40. RIA comes to mind.
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Old November 28, 2020, 12:16 AM   #15
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From his original post, I'll hazard to gues that he wants a DA/SA hammer fired because he comes from revolvers rather than a cocked and lock SA hammer fired model.
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Old November 28, 2020, 12:20 AM   #16
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There were a couple of Astras the A-75 DA/SA, and The A-70 SA only.

I think the Star Ultrastar was available in .40

The SIG/Sauer P239 is probably going to be the easiest one to find.
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Old November 28, 2020, 12:22 AM   #17
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From his original post, I'll hazard to gues that he wants a DA/SA hammer fired because he comes from revolvers rather than a cocked and lock SA hammer fired model.
That's a very reasonable guess but, if that is one of his criteria, he should say so.

FWIW, he hasn't been back on the forum since he posted the question.
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Old November 28, 2020, 07:12 AM   #18
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The quick answer is "no". I imagine that you're looking for hammer-fired double action or DA/SA. The modern polymer subcompact revolution has largely ignored people like us. There are a few options. The Springfield XDE is probably the thinnest but did they make a version in .40S&W?

Another thing to consider is that the .40's reputation for being "snappy" becomes more applicable when used in a small, light, polymer CCW. I found it downright unpleasant in the old PPS and only marginally better in the P99. The smallest gun I liked for .40S&W was the Sig P239 but as already noted, it's been discontinued for a while.

Given that a lot of the hammer-fired or DA/SA options are going to be thick anyway, look into a Beretta PX4 Compact. Some of its width comes from the batwing safety levers, which can be easily replaced with low-profile levers from Beretta. The capacity is decent in .40S&W and it handles recoil better than most any other polymer-framed compact.

There is also a PX4 Subcompact model. It is smaller but thickness is the same. It loses some capacity and ditches the rotating barrel system that makes the compact and full-size so easy to shoot well. I haven't shot one but people say it still handles .40 S&W well compared to other guns in its size class.
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Old November 28, 2020, 12:55 PM   #19
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Old November 28, 2020, 01:22 PM   #20
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"...doesn't really exist..." Yep. Most, if not all of 'em, are double stack mags.
"...Hi-Power isn't much bigger than a 1911..." I'd have to measure, but a BHP's grips are much wider than a 1911/A1's grip frame. At a guess, I'd say half again as wide.
I think a Glock is as narrow as you'll get. No hammer though.
It sounds like you need to look into holsters more.
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Old November 28, 2020, 06:02 PM   #21
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Ruger SR40. It IS thin for a full size pistol. Light weight. Feels GREAT in the grip. High capacity. Downside, NOT hammer fired! You would be remiss to NOT give it a look.
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Old November 28, 2020, 06:45 PM   #22
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Hi 1972 Redneck,
The P239, if you can find one. I wish Sig hadn't DC'd that model.

Springfield Armory EMP .40 is an option.
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Old November 28, 2020, 08:27 PM   #23
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Here are 2 example's of .40 goodness
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Old November 28, 2020, 11:44 PM   #24
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I just ran across this LNIB S&W 4006 PC Shorty 40 over on the Smith &Wesson forum.
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Old November 29, 2020, 10:28 AM   #25
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Hi Krunchnik,

They look like .40 S&W greatness.

I have an EMP 3 9MM that I use for urban purposes. By a huge margin, it's the best urban carry gun I've ever owned. That thing is crazy accurate. It's as reliable as any mechanical device could hope to be. I trust it far more than any revolver I've ever owned.

I must have been away from the handgun game for too long. I was clueless of Springfield Armory's sublime line of 1911-A1s until about five years ago. I've sold all of my other brands of 1911-A1s and exclusively have gone with Springfield Armory. My money's on the Springfield Armory as the unequaled best of factory production 1911-A1.

BTW, how's recoil with your EMP .40? There is virtually no recoil with my 9MM.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noA6GnDR7-8

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