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December 17, 2019, 10:33 AM | #26 |
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An aluminum alloy often used in firearms is 7075, which contains copper, manganese, chromium, and zinc. So if the Big Blaster Revolver Company uses that alloy for their frames, the equivalent would be for them to call their guns "Manganese" or "Chromium." Call it what you want -- S&W's "Scandium" is an aluminum alloy with trace amounts of scandium.[/QUOTE] This is exactly right. |
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December 17, 2019, 10:44 AM | #28 |
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An aluminum alloy often used in firearms is 7075, which contains copper, manganese, chromium, and zinc. So if the Big Blaster Revolver Company uses that alloy for their frames, the equivalent would be for them to call their guns "Manganese" or "Chromium." Call it what you want -- S&W's "Scandium" is an aluminum alloy with trace amounts of scandium.[/QUOTE] How would you name them to distinguish between the aluminum alloy guns and the scandium alloy guns? Calling their guns Scandium is a way to distinguish their Scandium alloy guns from their aluminum alloy guns. Or would you folks prefer they call them both aluminum guns and leave people scratching their head over why one aluminum gun cost twice as much as the other aluminum gun and why one is as strong as steel why the other one isn't? |
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One should in theory get compact semi-auto 9mm +P level ballistics out of a 357 snubnose with the right ammo. The question is can one control it as well as a compact 9mm semi-auto? I plan on testing this with a S&W Shield 9mm semi loaded with 124gr +P Gold Dots, an alloy framed .38 Special 642 loaded with 135gr +P Gold Dots, and a SS framed .357 640 Pro trying a bunch of different 357 SD ammo.
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December 17, 2019, 12:30 PM | #32 | |
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There's 38/357 ballistic and gel data at the lucky gunner website; https://www.luckygunner.com/labs/rev...llistics-test/ |
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December 17, 2019, 01:39 PM | #33 | |
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For example if you sort the Lucky Gunner data by velocity, you can see a couple loads (like 125gr Golden Saber at just under 1100fps) that are right in the 9mm non +P equivalent range when shot from a 2" Kimber K6 and then they go up from there all the way up to Buffalo Bore 125gr Barnes doing over 1400fps from the 2".
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December 17, 2019, 02:03 PM | #34 |
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I found the Hornady 125 FTX is a good compromise with my SW340CT. Any of the 357 mag 158 grains quickly forms a knot in between my palm and thumb and it lasts for a week or more. lol I also use BB 158 gr 38 +P, and that is a powerful yet doable round for the lightweight revolver on the trail... east coast. I like shooting my 329PD, but that gets miserable quick as well. lol
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December 17, 2019, 04:12 PM | #35 |
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292 ft lbs with 147 gr 9mm jhp in a modified 12oz 637-2.
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December 17, 2019, 05:43 PM | #36 |
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AirLite S&W 317 in 22 LR rides in a belt holster unnoticed .
Airweight S&W 637 in 38 special slips in a holster or pocket very easily and very comfortably . These attributes lead to rule #1...Have a gun ON YOUR PERSON ! If it's heavy or uncomfortable ...you leave them at home...lite and comfortable , chances are it goes out the door with you . If it's with you and trouble happens it sure beats a full size 1911 45 acp at home. After decades of experience the light weights have won the "have it on your person " contest. Gary |
December 17, 2019, 08:03 PM | #37 |
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Felt recoil is generally less with larger mass weapons.
My Barrett .50 has less felt recoil than my Desert Eagle. But then that extra 30+ lbs tends to absorb the momentum.
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Only by a couple hundred feet per second! Quote:
https://www.luckygunner.com/lounge/r...barrel-length/
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December 19, 2019, 11:01 AM | #39 | |
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I look at my DA snubbies as needing to keep a fist size hole at 30'. I can to that with 38's, I struggle to do that with 125gr .357's. Especially during a string of somewhat rapid fire. A 400fps increase will do nothing if one cannot keep their shots on target. Carry what you feel comfortable with and for me it is no more than 135 gr. Gold Dots which was designed specifically for short barreled guns |
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.357 is a lot faster than .38 from a snub revolver, but it depends on the ammo you're using.
I see no point in a .357 in a snub, I won't shoot it well, so there's no reason for me to spend hundreds more over a .38 snub. If this is focused entirely on .357 alloy revolvers, I have no answer as to what's next, but if we want to talk about how to make revolvers even lighter, it's using a smaller frame in a smaller caliber like .32. Kel Tec has the lightest pocket pistol in the P32, Charter has been making 12oz .32's and .38's on aluminum frames for a long time, so the next step for S&W is to bring back the I frame, make it Scandium framed, and put it in .32 Mag and make it in 5 shot to reduce the cylinder diameter. Would probably weigh 9oz.
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December 20, 2019, 07:25 PM | #41 |
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I love scandium framed sidearms. Open carried the S&W 329PD from Feb. 2011 until around Jan. 2018 when I bought my scandium framed S&W SW1911 SC E-series .45. Both are very light for their caliber, but also heavy hitting, if necessary.
The 329PD is a beast (read: "Good God-almighty, that HURT!!!") with .44 Mag rounds. Like a baseball bat to the hand type of hurt. With .44 Specials, it's a pussycat. The 1911 is a bit better with standard .45 ball ammo. I love carrying them both albeit a bit large for CCW. They'll both do the job if, heaven forbid, I ever need them to. |
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I had a 329 and a 360PD.
The J frame was miserable to shoot with magnums. The 329 not so bad, maybe because the grips were bigger. The J frame did not hold up to magnums and the 329, everything I tried jumped crimp.
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As far as the 329PD 4 inch, I fire Garretts out of them and I have never had any issue with crimp jump. http://www.garrettcartridges.com/44defendertech.html These are probably the max you ever want to shoot in the 329... and it is miserable. lol What exactly do you run in your 329? |
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December 25, 2019, 08:09 PM | #46 |
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Using Hornady 140 gr., XTP in...
M36, M37, & M60.
I find not difference in targets nor recoil. The 37 is great for carry and the 36 & 60 ket you know they ate there! All comes down to practicing. |
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