Henry Single Shot 45-70 Strength

Shooter2675 · March 15, 2019, 07:50 AM

Does anyone know what strength loads the Henry Single Shot 45-70 Blued steel model will handle?

In other words, how does it compare, strength-wise, to a Marlin or Ruger No1?

FrankenMauser · March 15, 2019, 10:59 AM

Consider it a Marlin.

LineStretcher · March 15, 2019, 11:38 AM

I have the Big Bore 1895SBL from Marlin. The only reason I didn't go with a Henry is because I didn't like the way it's loaded. I have always had side loaders so that is what I prefer. The Henry is a good rifle and will handle the same loads as the Marlin. Find yourself a comfortable cartridge to shoot and enjoy it.

reynolds357 · March 15, 2019, 01:40 PM

Its definitely no Ruger1. I have been told by people I trust you can load 45-70#1 using 458 win mag data. (I am not brave/stupid enough to try it) The #1 is crazy strong.

FrankenMauser · March 15, 2019, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Its definitely no Ruger1.

Yep.

And... Let me rephrase my previous response:

Consider it a Handi-Rifle.

Theoretically stronger than a Marlin lever gun, but still not something to be pushing very hard. Case in point: The .500 S&W Handi Rifles have a well-deserved reputation for battering themselves and getting loose, due to the recoil and pressure of the cartridge - even with standard loads (not even crazy-redneck-with-a-reloading-press loads).

It's not a Trap-Door. But it's no Ruger #1, either...

ms6852 · March 15, 2019, 07:08 PM

I load for a Sharps and an 1895 marlin, I do not believe it can handle the same loads as a Ruger#1. If I were you I would load it at the same capacity for the marlins1895, better yet just call Henry.

eastbank · March 16, 2019, 08:17 AM

I,m not a brake open single shot fan, but the 45-70 does not have to be loaded hot to kill any animal in the USA. put that big bullet where it needs to go and the animal will die.

Paul B. · March 18, 2019, 03:59 PM

"Its definitely no Ruger1. I have been told by people I trust you can load 45-70#1 using 458 win mag data. (I am not brave/stupid enough to try it) The #1 is crazy strong."

Well the Ruger #1 in 45-70 can handle the same pressure lever as the #1 in .458 Win. Mag. but no way can you put a .458 Win. Mag powder charge in a 45-70 case and still have room to seat a bullet. If you want 458 Mag, power buy a 458 Win. Mag. and be done with it.

The late gun writer Ken Waters opined that one could use Ruger #1 45-70 load levels in the 1895 Marlin. They'll work bit they hurt on both ends and you'll have the lever slamming open on every shot. I respect Mr. Waters and his knowledge of handloading but based on personal experience, he's dead wrong. Oh? And when that lever snaps open it gives your knuckled one hell of a healthy rap.

I can't speak on the strength of the Henry. Hell, I've never even seen one. I can speak on the Ruger #1 and 1895 Marlin though as I had both at one time. Sold the Marlin and the #1 is part of a small collection of #1s that range from .22 Hornet to .416 Rigby.
Paul B.

March 15, 2019, 10:59 AM	#2
FrankenMauser Senior Member Join Date: August 25, 2008 Location: In the valley above the plain Posts: 13,424	Consider it a Marlin. __________________ Don't even try it. It's even worse than the internet would lead you to believe.

March 15, 2019, 07:08 PM	#6
ms6852 Senior Member Join Date: April 3, 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 1,394	I load for a Sharps and an 1895 marlin, I do not believe it can handle the same loads as a Ruger#1. If I were you I would load it at the same capacity for the marlins1895, better yet just call Henry. __________________ ONLY TWO DEFINING FORCES HAVE GIVEN UP THEIR LIVES FOR YOU. ONE IS JESUS CHRIST FOR YOUR SOUL AND THE OTHER IS THE AMERICAN SOLDIER FOR YOUR FREEDOM.

March 18, 2019, 03:59 PM	#8
Paul B. Senior Member Join Date: March 28, 1999 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 3,802	"Its definitely no Ruger1. I have been told by people I trust you can load 45-70#1 using 458 win mag data. (I am not brave/stupid enough to try it) The #1 is crazy strong." Well the Ruger #1 in 45-70 can handle the same pressure lever as the #1 in .458 Win. Mag. but no way can you put a .458 Win. Mag powder charge in a 45-70 case and still have room to seat a bullet. If you want 458 Mag, power buy a 458 Win. Mag. and be done with it. The late gun writer Ken Waters opined that one could use Ruger #1 45-70 load levels in the 1895 Marlin. They'll work bit they hurt on both ends and you'll have the lever slamming open on every shot. I respect Mr. Waters and his knowledge of handloading but based on personal experience, he's dead wrong. Oh? And when that lever snaps open it gives your knuckled one hell of a healthy rap. I can't speak on the strength of the Henry. Hell, I've never even seen one. I can speak on the Ruger #1 and 1895 Marlin though as I had both at one time. Sold the Marlin and the #1 is part of a small collection of #1s that range from .22 Hornet to .416 Rigby. Paul B. __________________ COMPROMISE IS NOT AN OPTION!

March 15, 2019, 07:50 AM	#1
Shooter2675 Senior Member Join Date: August 17, 2013 Location: Western Pennsylvania Posts: 382	Henry Single Shot 45-70 Strength Does anyone know what strength loads the Henry Single Shot 45-70 Blued steel model will handle? In other words, how does it compare, strength-wise, to a Marlin or Ruger No1? __________________ "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt." - Abraham Lincoln

March 15, 2019, 11:38 AM	#3
LineStretcher Senior Member Join Date: June 14, 2018 Posts: 619	I have the Big Bore 1895SBL from Marlin. The only reason I didn't go with a Henry is because I didn't like the way it's loaded. I have always had side loaders so that is what I prefer. The Henry is a good rifle and will handle the same loads as the Marlin. Find yourself a comfortable cartridge to shoot and enjoy it.

March 15, 2019, 01:40 PM	#4
reynolds357 Senior Member Join Date: December 10, 2012 Posts: 6,165	Its definitely no Ruger1. I have been told by people I trust you can load 45-70#1 using 458 win mag data. (I am not brave/stupid enough to try it) The #1 is crazy strong.

March 16, 2019, 08:17 AM	#7
eastbank Senior Member Join Date: February 7, 2008 Location: pa. Posts: 2,450	I,m not a brake open single shot fan, but the 45-70 does not have to be loaded hot to kill any animal in the USA. put that big bullet where it needs to go and the animal will die.