.264 Win. 6.5 PRC, 6.5 SAUM - Page 2

reynolds357 · November 14, 2017, 05:42 PM

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and with a 36" barrel you can mount 9 of them in your canoe and have your own mini battleship...

I cant, because I don't have a canoe. Would my jon boat work?

Roadkill2228 · November 14, 2017, 11:11 PM

As intriguing as the large cased 6.5s are, I would personally shy away from them. If I were to get a 6.5 of some flavor, one of the more efficient ones would be on my list, 260 Rem 6.5 creedmoor. My reasoning is that, while the shove will be less, the magnums will still have all the biscuits kuzzle blast of a magnum without the hitting power. The new high bc bullets in 7mm and .30 cal are no less efficient than anything in 6.5 and their greater projectile mass provides more "insurance" when using projectiles designed to expand or fragment at long range. The 6.5 magnums require longer barrels for lesser performance and power with just as bad muzzle blast. The medium cased 6.5s are a different story. Low blast, very light recoil, normal barrel length, and the ability to carry game killing amounts of energy and penetrating mass out effectively to appreciably greater distances than other cartridge of their recoil and blast level (the .243 kind of sucks)

**Mike Irwin** · November 15, 2017, 06:56 AM

"Would my jon boat work?"

Nah, that's just an armed barge.

But you're right, the .264 really requires a longer barrel in order to shine, and therein lies the problem... it was never available from Winchester with anything longer than a 26" barrel, and often not even that. I don't believe that the offerings from any of the other manufacturers were any better, meaning that to really take advantage of the cartridge's potential, you had to rebarrel your gun with a custom tube.

Really easier just to buy a 7mm Remington Mag., which offered almost identical ballistics but with a heavier bullet. And it didn't have nearly the reputation for washing out leads and throats that the .264 did.

And that's what most people seemed to do.

reynolds357 · November 15, 2017, 10:48 AM

My experience is that the 264 win mag chewed up and spit out factory Winchester barrels. Stainless Liljas have a very acceptable life. I shoot one of my win mags in 1k competition when the wind is howling.

muzzleblast... · November 15, 2017, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by reynolds357

My experience is that the 264 win mag chewed up and spit out factory Winchester barrels. Stainless Liljas have a very acceptable life.

Same here, except I went with Shilen. Had the smith leave a couple of extra inches on the tube.

gw44 · October 12, 2018, 08:02 PM

I have a 6.5x284 Norma its a great caliber, I would look in to it, my be what you are looking for !!!

November 15, 2017, 06:56 AM	#28
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,381	"Would my jon boat work?" Nah, that's just an armed barge. But you're right, the .264 really requires a longer barrel in order to shine, and therein lies the problem... it was never available from Winchester with anything longer than a 26" barrel, and often not even that. I don't believe that the offerings from any of the other manufacturers were any better, meaning that to really take advantage of the cartridge's potential, you had to rebarrel your gun with a custom tube. Really easier just to buy a 7mm Remington Mag., which offered almost identical ballistics but with a heavier bullet. And it didn't have nearly the reputation for washing out leads and throats that the .264 did. And that's what most people seemed to do. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

November 14, 2017, 11:11 PM	#27
Roadkill2228 Senior Member Join Date: March 8, 2014 Location: Nipawin, Saskatchewan Posts: 311	As intriguing as the large cased 6.5s are, I would personally shy away from them. If I were to get a 6.5 of some flavor, one of the more efficient ones would be on my list, 260 Rem 6.5 creedmoor. My reasoning is that, while the shove will be less, the magnums will still have all the biscuits kuzzle blast of a magnum without the hitting power. The new high bc bullets in 7mm and .30 cal are no less efficient than anything in 6.5 and their greater projectile mass provides more "insurance" when using projectiles designed to expand or fragment at long range. The 6.5 magnums require longer barrels for lesser performance and power with just as bad muzzle blast. The medium cased 6.5s are a different story. Low blast, very light recoil, normal barrel length, and the ability to carry game killing amounts of energy and penetrating mass out effectively to appreciably greater distances than other cartridge of their recoil and blast level (the .243 kind of sucks)

November 15, 2017, 10:48 AM	#29
reynolds357 Senior Member Join Date: December 10, 2012 Posts: 6,165	My experience is that the 264 win mag chewed up and spit out factory Winchester barrels. Stainless Liljas have a very acceptable life. I shoot one of my win mags in 1k competition when the wind is howling.

October 12, 2018, 08:02 PM	#31
gw44 Senior Member Join Date: March 15, 2015 Location: Michigan Posts: 311	I have a 6.5x284 Norma its a great caliber, I would look in to it, my be what you are looking for !!!