CETME C308 - Page 2

hodaka · January 23, 2018, 06:48 AM

Your front sight needs to move down and to the right. The front sight moves to the left or right a little bit as it is rotated. My guess is that yours might already be bottomed out so the only way to lower it is with a file. With mine, i decided the iron sights were pretty bad and stuck a 1X5 scope on it. The advantage this rifle has over the original H&K and many of the PTR's is the mount. Use it. A red dot is another great addition.

PlatinumCore16 · January 23, 2018, 08:15 AM

Thank you, I will definitely be putting a low power variable on this. I thought about just putting a 4x on there, and I still might. One of the other rifles I recently acquired had a large cowitness scope mount that was really for an AR. The rifle is an MVP LC, so it's meant for long range target shooting. I believe they were attempting to get into the Precision Rifle comp market, but I don't know Mossberg's internal marketing strategy. Either way, the cowitness mount really wasn't the right thing for that rifle, but I realized that it would be perfect for this one with the tall cheek riser. It still gives me the ability to use the irons and I could be happy with a 4x and just call it good with one less knob. The jury is still out, but that's definitely where my thoughts are right now.

the possum · January 23, 2018, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Your front sight needs to move down and to the right.

No, it needs to move UP and right, since the gun is shooting high.

disseminator · January 24, 2018, 03:38 PM

Quote:

No, it needs to move UP and right, since the gun is shooting high.

Agreed.

Nice gun OP, I've been temped but the horror stories keep me away...

hodaka · January 24, 2018, 03:47 PM

Sorry but you are both incorrect regarding the FRONT sight.

the possum · January 24, 2018, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Sorry but you are both incorrect regarding the FRONT sight.

Sorry, but no we're not.

hodaka · January 24, 2018, 06:48 PM

My apologies, you guys are indeed correct. I had to look at one of my Mausers to remember putting a different sight on it to get it to print lower. It was indeed taller. It makes sense now. My bad.

davidsog · January 26, 2018, 08:55 AM

While the CETME is a good rifle and has the same basic operation as the G3/HK91/PTR91 it is missing some key features that make it a great MBR without modification.

Other options for a delayed roller blowback rifle have these options standard.

The PTR-91 GI for example has the paddle magazine release of the original G3 overcoming the awkward ergonomics of the button release.

The HK diopter sights are some of the best iron sights to be found on any military rifle.

Here is more information:

https://thefiringline.com/forums/sho...8&postcount=22

https://thefiringline.com/forums/sho...1&postcount=24

The .308 thread those post were made in has some good information in it on the CETME and other .308 platforms.

davidsog · January 26, 2018, 09:05 AM

Quote:

At 50yds, it was quite high for the 200m peep and honestly I don't know where it was hitting at 100yds. I'll have to take some time in the bench with a friend next time. But here's a couple pics of the trip and gun.

You need to zero it.

Adjust the windage and elevation at the front sight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVitj9khudo

Quote:

Sight Adjustment Illustration #19

The front sight is used adjust zero for both elevation and
windage adjustments. The rear sight is a rotary aperture battle
sight marked 1 through 4, representing 100 to 400 meters.
Please sight in your rifle at 100 meters. For the elevation
make sure the rear site is set on 1. Shoot a group at 100
meters. If the elevation needs to be adjusted loosen the set
screw in front of the sight, use a sight adjustment tool to
either raise or lower the sight as required. For the windage
adjustment the front sight post is offset, one turn of the
screws gives you about 4" of adjustment right to left. (See
Illustration #19.)

Page 12:

https://www.centuryarms.com/media/wy...anualFINAL.pdf

PlatinumCore16 · January 27, 2018, 11:44 AM

Awesome thank you all. There gentleman I bought it from actually included a paddle mag release, but I was unaware it takes some machining to fit it. I live in the Springs, so I'll be get it to Bill Springfield in the near future.

And thank you for the videos and documentation.

**44 AMP** · January 27, 2018, 06:01 PM

Personally, I found the open notch (100m) rear sight setting of my HK 91 to be impossible for me to use well. On the other hand, the 200,300, and 400 meter "peep" sight settings were fast, easy to use, and dead on accurate.

I just left mine on the 200m setting and aimed a little lower if the target was closer.

davidsog · February 1, 2018, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Personally, I found the open notch (100m) rear sight setting of my HK 91 to be impossible for me to use well.

That is actually called the auxiliary sight and is 100 meters or less. It is not a target sight and the lowest normal sight setting is actually the 200 meter aperture for targets from 0 to 400 meters.

The auxiliary sight is a low visibility and close quarters sight.

It is used with both eyes open POI is top of the post for rapid target acquisition and engagement. Put the front sight post on your target and shoot.

davidsog · February 5, 2018, 08:08 AM

Quote:

There gentleman I bought it from actually included a paddle mag release, but I was unaware it takes some machining to fit it.

You will be happy with it once it is installed. The service model G3's have it standard but it was removed on the HK91 sporters.

I do not think the CETME ever had it.

It is sort of like the bolt lock on the FN-FAL series. The civilian sporters all have it but most of the military service rifles do not.

Quote:

And thank you for the videos and documentation.

You are most welcome!

January 27, 2018, 06:01 PM	#36
44 AMP Staff Join Date: March 11, 2006 Location: Upper US Posts: 28,812	Personally, I found the open notch (100m) rear sight setting of my HK 91 to be impossible for me to use well. On the other hand, the 200,300, and 400 meter "peep" sight settings were fast, easy to use, and dead on accurate. I just left mine on the 200m setting and aimed a little lower if the target was closer. __________________ All else being equal (and it almost never is) bigger bullets tend to work better.

Thread Tools	Search this Thread
Show Printable Version Email this Page	Search this Thread: Advanced Search

January 23, 2018, 06:48 AM	#26
hodaka Senior Member Join Date: April 23, 2006 Location: South Texas Posts: 2,010	Your front sight needs to move down and to the right. The front sight moves to the left or right a little bit as it is rotated. My guess is that yours might already be bottomed out so the only way to lower it is with a file. With mine, i decided the iron sights were pretty bad and stuck a 1X5 scope on it. The advantage this rifle has over the original H&K and many of the PTR's is the mount. Use it. A red dot is another great addition.

January 23, 2018, 08:15 AM	#27
PlatinumCore16 Senior Member Join Date: February 23, 2017 Location: Colorado Posts: 424	Thank you, I will definitely be putting a low power variable on this. I thought about just putting a 4x on there, and I still might. One of the other rifles I recently acquired had a large cowitness scope mount that was really for an AR. The rifle is an MVP LC, so it's meant for long range target shooting. I believe they were attempting to get into the Precision Rifle comp market, but I don't know Mossberg's internal marketing strategy. Either way, the cowitness mount really wasn't the right thing for that rifle, but I realized that it would be perfect for this one with the tall cheek riser. It still gives me the ability to use the irons and I could be happy with a 4x and just call it good with one less knob. The jury is still out, but that's definitely where my thoughts are right now.

January 24, 2018, 03:47 PM	#30
hodaka Senior Member Join Date: April 23, 2006 Location: South Texas Posts: 2,010	Sorry but you are both incorrect regarding the FRONT sight.

January 24, 2018, 06:48 PM	#32
hodaka Senior Member Join Date: April 23, 2006 Location: South Texas Posts: 2,010	My apologies, you guys are indeed correct. I had to look at one of my Mausers to remember putting a different sight on it to get it to print lower. It was indeed taller. It makes sense now. My bad.

January 26, 2018, 08:55 AM	#33
davidsog Senior Member Join Date: January 13, 2018 Posts: 1,325	While the CETME is a good rifle and has the same basic operation as the G3/HK91/PTR91 it is missing some key features that make it a great MBR without modification. Other options for a delayed roller blowback rifle have these options standard. The PTR-91 GI for example has the paddle magazine release of the original G3 overcoming the awkward ergonomics of the button release. The HK diopter sights are some of the best iron sights to be found on any military rifle. Here is more information: https://thefiringline.com/forums/sho...8&postcount=22 https://thefiringline.com/forums/sho...1&postcount=24 The .308 thread those post were made in has some good information in it on the CETME and other .308 platforms.

January 27, 2018, 11:44 AM	#35
PlatinumCore16 Senior Member Join Date: February 23, 2017 Location: Colorado Posts: 424	Awesome thank you all. There gentleman I bought it from actually included a paddle mag release, but I was unaware it takes some machining to fit it. I live in the Springs, so I'll be get it to Bill Springfield in the near future. And thank you for the videos and documentation.