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September 19, 2019, 09:32 AM | #26 |
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..too late! He's already irrelevant!
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September 19, 2019, 11:13 AM | #27 |
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He is relevant, and people like him.
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September 19, 2019, 02:24 PM | #28 | |
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Folks, do remember where you are. LAW and CIVIL RIGHTS
Discussing proposed/pending legislation, fine. Discussing court cases and how they relate to our right, fine. POLITICS, and particularly who did or didn't do what NOT DIRECTLY RELATED to our firearms rights is not fine, and one more word on that, and we're done here. Quote:
How would the govt prove a compelling need for what is being proposed?? I doubt that matters much to Booker, or any other legislator who supports the idea, after all, their job is to pass such crap, its up to us to deal with it AFTER it becomes law...
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September 19, 2019, 07:19 PM | #29 | |
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This isn't the 1920-30s where full auto guns were more expensive that others, AND nearly all designs were FULL AUTO ONLY. Compared to sporting arms, the common full autos of that era were heavy, and more expensive, the Tommygun, the BAR, and war trophy bring back belt fed machine guns. Pretty much full auto, ONLY. And, I agree, for a civilian, other than recreation, there isn't much use for full auto, ONLY. But, today (and for a while now, like half a century or more..) we have had what is called "selective fire" weapons. You choose safe, semi, or full auto with the selector lever or button, etc. there are many designs of select fire arms that are literally no different from their semi auto counterparts OTHER than the "happy switch". And this is why the anti's have been so successful with the push to ban "assault weapons" because many look exactly like their full auto versions, which are, and have been NFA weapons because they do fire full auto. I think, if they had never been restricted, select fire would be fairly popular arms, if their price point was not drastically different from their semi version. I think a lot of buyer would get one, just for the ability to have one, "just in case", especially if it were available at little or no extra cost. Now if the restrictions were lifted today, there would be a huge demand, due to generations of "forbidden fruit" and people wanting to get one, before the Govt changed its mind (again). Look at military look alike semi autos, which have been on the civilian market for over half a century. They were NOT the most popular guns in the country, they were a small segment of the market. Again, mostly because they were heavy, and expensive, or (in the case of the AR) not in a caliber good for deer in most places. Few deer hunters wanted to lug a 9lb FAL that cost them $150 when a Win/Rem bolt gun in the same caliber was a few pounds lighter and cost them $100 or less... The fall of the Soviet Union brought a literal flood of Combloc design military style semi autos at dirt cheap prices. This increased the popularity of the type more than a little, but it wasn't until people started pushing the govt to ban them that they became hugely desirable. It is, ironically, the anti's own efforts to ban them that made (nearly) everyone want one. They (the anti's) literally CREATED the "problem" that they are so upset about. Quote:
Our big problem at the moment is people wanting to put all SEMI AUTO (only) arms into the same class as FULL AUTO. In my state, as of July 1 2019, ALL semi auto rifles are now legally identified as "semi automatic assault rifles". The law now requires an extra waiting period (10 days), mandated training (which does not exist) and some other things, and it doesn't matter if its a Marlin model 60, a Ruger 10/22, a Remington 742 or M1 Garand, or an AR or AK variant. Doesn't matter what cosmetic features it has, or even if it has a detachable magazine, ALL semi auto rifles are now legally "semiautomatic assault rifles" under the law. I wish it were otherwise, but it seems we are living at the end of an era.
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For my use, one that doesn't involve modern military tactical doctrine, a fully automatic feature that spends ammunition more quickly than my index finger can just gives me a bigger bill for missing the target even more than I do now.
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September 20, 2019, 04:01 PM | #33 |
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I am a big fan of the 3RB myself. With a little practice two shots will almost always be touching and the third a hair high. Shot placement willing, it doesn't get much better than that.
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September 20, 2019, 08:03 PM | #34 |
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Nothing quite like full auto.... I've been a fan since I first tried it in the Army.
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